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PeterNdlovu081 said:
Christ, been getting a bit rowdy in here.

You guys are like a bowl in a china shop.
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I like a good typo , me .

Obviously you meant to say ‘a bowel in a china shop ‘ which then makes perfect sense , along with the likes of ‘the proof is in the pudding’ and ‘ he couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo ‘ …..:)
 
A few weeks ago on R5L, the brains trust that is Savage and Sutton were having a heated argument as to whether it was ‘ The proof is in the pudding’ or solely ‘ The proof is in the eating’.
I listened to them both getting it wrong for a bit, then had to turn off as it was giving me a headache.
 
Isaw Joeshaw said:
I like a good typo , me .

Obviously you meant to say ‘a bowel in a china shop ‘ which then makes perfect sense , along with the likes of ‘the proof is in the pudding’ and ‘ he couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo ‘ …..:)
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Isaw Joeshaw said:
I like a good typo , me .

Obviously you meant to say ‘a bowel in a china shop ‘ which then makes perfect sense , along with the likes of ‘the proof is in the pudding’ and ‘ he couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo ‘ …..:)
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You're daft as a brush!
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
This thread has reminded me of the time someone once suggested we ditch hald the squad.

JJ Sefton
Grecian2000
shorehamview

Remember that?

🤣🤣🤣
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Some memory there Nuddy. That must have been a good few years ago!
To be honest if you hadn't mentioned it I'd have continued to give this whole thread a swerve, that would have been a mistake for sure.
 
Grecian2000 said:
Some memory there Nuddy. That must have been a good few years ago!
To be honest if you hadn't mentioned it I'd have continued to give this whole thread a swerve, that would have been a mistake for sure.
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It's still probably the funniest thing I ever read on here.

Is it weird that I remember a post from 13 years ago?
 
Le Cynique said:
It doesn’t make the same sense as “the proof of the pudding will be in the eating”.

The mangled quote suggests that there will be a proof in the pudding, like a sixpence in a plum duff. The actual quote suggests that whether the pudding is good or not will be the proof when eating it. It’s a small difference but an important one.

I’m usually descriptivist rather than prescriptivist, but I think that important nuance is lost when misquoting this aphorism.
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Doesn't matter in this context as we're looking at whether United will be properly prepared to start next season or not. In this case the summer/pre-season will be the evidential pudding.
Free Dictionary online offered the below confirming its common usage:

the proof is in the pudding​

The final results of something are the only way to judge its quality or veracity.
Our analysts think that the marketing campaign will reinvigorate our sales, but the proof is in the pudding, so let's see how our figures look at the end of the year.
OK, if I did everything right, the engine should work right, but the proof will be in the pudding.
 
Pedro's Winger said:
Doesn't matter in this context as we're looking at whether United will be properly prepared to start next season or not. In this case the summer/pre-season will be the evidential pudding.
Free Dictionary online offered the below confirming its common usage:

the proof is in the pudding​

The final results of something are the only way to judge its quality or veracity.
Our analysts think that the marketing campaign will reinvigorate our sales, but the proof is in the pudding, so let's see how our figures look at the end of the year.
OK, if I did everything right, the engine should work right, but the proof will be in the pudding.
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The proof is in the pudding is wrong.

Many people say it but it's because they've got it wrong.

It's like when Americans say, "I could care less".

In America that has become the accepted version of, 'I couldn't care less' because so many people say it.

But it's still wrong.
 
Pedro's Winger said:
Doesn't matter in this context as we're looking at whether United will be properly prepared to start next season or not. In this case the summer/pre-season will be the evidential pudding.
Free Dictionary online offered the below confirming its common usage:

the proof is in the pudding​

The final results of something are the only way to judge its quality or veracity.
Our analysts think that the marketing campaign will reinvigorate our sales, but the proof is in the pudding, so let's see how our figures look at the end of the year.
OK, if I did everything right, the engine should work right, but the proof will be in the pudding.
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I see you’ve dropped the word “Will”.
 
Pedro's Winger said:
Doesn't matter in this context as we're looking at whether United will be properly prepared to start next season or not. In this case the summer/pre-season will be the evidential pudding.
Free Dictionary online offered the below confirming its common usage:

the proof is in the pudding​

The final results of something are the only way to judge its quality or veracity.
Our analysts think that the marketing campaign will reinvigorate our sales, but the proof is in the pudding, so let's see how our figures look at the end of the year.
OK, if I did everything right, the engine should work right, but the proof will be in the pudding.
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Common usage ≠ correct usage. Again, I don’t like being prescriptivist, but as I said before, there’s a subtle difference in meaning. If the summer/preseason were the pudding, then surely “the proof will be the pudding” or “the pudding will be the proof” would make more sense than “the proof will be the pudding”.

I’m happy if you’re happy to accept the bastardised version as valid, but I’m equally happy that I don’t, and common usage doesn’t make it right in my eyes.

“I could care less” is commonly used in the States, but I’d argue that some of its meaning is also lost from the original.
 
It works both ways because I prefer the phrase, 'Dull as dish water'.

But the original was, 'Dull as ditch water'.

You'll see a pretty even split of usage between those two.

Dish water makes more sense and seems more descriptive to me.

But I do accept that ditch water was the original and dish water is wrong.
 

Le Cynique said:
Common usage ≠ correct usage. Again, I don’t like being prescriptivist, but as I said before, there’s a subtle difference in meaning. If the summer/preseason were the pudding, then surely “the proof will be the pudding” or “the pudding will be the proof” would make more sense than “the proof will be the pudding”.

I’m happy if you’re happy to accept the bastardised version as valid, but I’m equally happy that I don’t, and common usage doesn’t make it right in my eyes.

“I could care less” is commonly used in the States, but I’d argue that some of its meaning is also lost from the original.
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I think Pedro is putting something above 70% proof in his pudding.
 
BalticBlade said:
The original phrase is 'you want to eat your cake and have it' (which makes sense) but at some down the line it became 'you want to have your cake and eat it' (which doesn't make any sense).
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But it did lead to the wonderful line from a character in an Irvine Welsh book:

“Whit’s the point in huvin yir cake if ye cannae fuckin well scran it back eh no?”
 
Le Cynique said:
It doesn’t make the same sense as “the proof of the pudding will be in the eating”.

The mangled quote suggests that there will be a proof in the pudding, like a sixpence in a plum duff. The actual quote suggests that whether the pudding is good or not will be the proof when eating it. It’s a small difference but an important one.

I’m usually descriptivist rather than prescriptivist, but I think that important nuance is lost when misquoting this aphorism.
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I don't understand half of those words, but I think agree
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
It works both ways because I prefer the phrase, 'Dull as dish water'.

But the original was, 'Dull as ditch water'.

You'll see a pretty even split of usage between those two.

Dish water makes more sense and seems more descriptive to me.

But I do accept that ditch water was the original and dish water is wrong.
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Another one is "Chomping at the bit" instead of "Champing at the bit". Chomping still makes sense in that context.
 
BalticBlade said:
The original phrase is 'you want to eat your cake and have it' (which makes sense) but at some down the line it became 'you want to have your cake and eat it' (which doesn't make any sense).
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Agreed, I hate that corruption of the phrase as well.
 

People saying ' spitting feathers' to describe anger. Just wrong. That's when you're thirsty.
'Spitting blood' is when you're angry.
Accept it's another example of something being misused to the point where it becomes accepted.
Pah.
 
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