Mediocrity

[Rodley]

95% of our fan base are either

A - related to him
B- friends
C - club employees
D - money mules carrying PL money to United World.

Bladeszz

Must be true, l think l’ve read it on here.

Then again, unlike easily identifiable posters on here, maybe the majority don’t spend their days repeating the same negative comments whenever a new thread comes up. Maybe they worry about the future of the club rather than seeming desperate to be right being the main thing on their minds.

For someone who spends most of their time on here marking other people’s posts, you don’t half take the odd flight of fancy in some of your responses.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Various outlets have quoted sums ranging from £150m to £170m.

Not the owner then? The Dozy “sale” was supposed to be £110m. Now we’re back in the Championship with a squad worth less he may well be struggling to get his investment back. C’est La vie.

 

[FriethBlade]

We’re one of the 30 biggest clubs in the country with a league one level owner who’s holding us back.

We’re right to both expect and hope for better

One of the 30....I wouldn't argue with that....but that also means that we r performing at the right level. Time in the PL and time in the top 10 of the Championship. Pretty much where we've been the last decade

 

[Tezza1889]

Each to their own but this "I'm glad we are out and I hope we never come back" stuff is weird. PL is rotten to the core but it's all their is at the moment. For a club with an owner like this, it's a necessary evil at least 3 seasons a decade

If we don't get back before the parachute payments run out, we can't afford to both run the club and field a team

Are you sure the parachute payments haven't been loaned against already..

Because im not..

 

[Carlton Blade]

Are you sure the parachute payments haven't been loaned against already..

Because im not..

Pretty sure. There was no need to. You look at the costs in the accounts from each year and the TV money covers this season. The only way they've been used is to pay off loans. But why bother when you jyst replace them with more loans

 

[Sean Thornton]

For someone who spends most of their time on here marking other people’s posts, you don’t half take the odd flight of fancy in some of your responses.

Yes, oddly that comment comes from someone who spends quite some time on here effectively posting the same bloody thing, day in day out. How do you know what delights or upsets the Prince btw? Are you a Bizzaro El Accounto?

 

[Rodley]

Yes, oddly that comment comes from someone who spends quite some time on here effectively posting the same bloody thing, day in day out. How do you know what delights or upsets the Prince btw? Are you a Bizzaro El Accounto?

Moaning about people being negative on the forum during clusterfuck of a season like this seems a huge waste of someone’s time IMHO.

 

[gordoncharles]

Everything about the club during the lifetimes of practically all living supporters screams "mediocrity", so this our default position.

We've had times when we've been worse than mediocre, some of those very recently indeed.

But what is "mediocre" and what's wrong with that? Crystal Palace is, to me, the epitome of a mediocre club in a mediocre suburb of a pimple on the arse of London. And yet they've had a surprisingly long unbroken spell in the Premier League, this being their 11th season, and they'll definitely make a 12th.

And yet, in all that those seasons in the sun they've finished every one of their 10 before sandwiched between 10th and 15th and are on course to do so once again. Stunning mediocrity. They did also reach the FA Cup final in that time, but so what? Even we reached 2 semi finals in that period.

They are much, much better than us, but in what set of circumstances are they ever going to do much better than that? And yet that level of mediocrity is our ambition.

I didn't expect us to stay up this season, and whilst I didn't expect the appalling levels of performance we've actually seen, we can at least return to the lower division and hopefully win a few games and feel better about ourselves. Next time, if there is to be a next time, we may even do a lot better. That's the joy of football amongst all the bitterness and rancour. I've mockingly said before this motto should be on Wednesday's crest but it's true enough - "There's Always Next Year"

Where there's life, there's hope.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I have continually criticised the board for their approach to our club through inside information I’ve been given both off and on the pitch etc. Ive been lambasted for saying it but that was everyone’s prerogative but today i feel I should change my approach by accepting the prince and accept mediocrity. We are a medium size club with a medium sized fan base in a northern city that boasts little of the financial/commercial power of other northern cities like Leeds or Manchester. I don’t see us making much of an impact next season because i don’t see the prince willing to spend to achieve an immediate return. A return to a league where we get battered every week doesn't excite me. I’m going to renew the last minute to retain my seat but in the knowledge we are and will remain mediocre.

While I get where you’re coming from on most of what you’ve said.

I don’t get the reason why you’re going to renew at the last minute like you’re teasing the club.

 

[JJBlade]

Sheffield is behind Manchester and Leeds in the wealth stakes city wise. There is no denying that. However it is the 4th/5th largest city in England and boasts two internationally renowned universities and is of course well known for our steel making past. There is no airport nearby thanks to Doncaster closing but the East Midlands airport and Manchester airport are only an hour away each. It is not like we are some backwater. Most importantly though there is an enormous appetite for football in this city. Both us and that lot down the road boast very high attendances between us. If United actually had good ownership for once, we could really push on and grow.

Nobody cares, East Midlands isn't our airport, neither is Manchester, nobody cares that Doncaster Airport has closed, and nobody cares that it might reopen because if it does nobody will use it again.
Nobody cares about the steel making past, the Universities are not world renowned, they're ok and nothing more than that and there is no appetite for football in United's half of the city unless you can get the whole family in for a tenner and get pie and chips for a quid and a replica shirt from five years ago for a fiver.

If you think this is untrue, try letting a multi billionaire take over and promise to sign the worlds best players, but in order to do this he wants a larger stadium to be built and much higher prices will have to be paid by our fans.

They would tell him to foxtrot oscar, and that is why no multi billionaire buys us.

The average Mr & Mrs Sheffield want cheap and tacky in everything they buy, and their football is no different, they cannot imagine paying £45-£50 to see Haaland and De Bruyne if they can pay £25 to see Slimane and Benni Traore

It's the same reason why a Harvey Nichols in the City Centre would dive bomb within 12 months, nobody would pay. The people that run these companies know that so they don't come here, and the same thing applies to footballing minded billionaires.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Moaning about people being negative on the forum during clusterfuck of a season like this seems a huge waste of someone’s time IMHO.

Can’t disagree really. Some may think the same of repetitive posting. If you simply copied and pasted your own stuff you’d save hours.

 

[Tezza1889]

Pretty sure. There was no need to. You look at the costs in the accounts from each year and the TV money covers this season. The only way they've been used is to pay off loans. But why bother when you jyst replace them with more loans

We'll wait and see..

I dont know why, but I think a banana skin is on the top step..

 

[Carlton Blade]

We'll wait and see..

I dont know why, but I think a banana skin is on the top step..

The big unknown is if any of the owner/director loans have been repaid

 

[Rodley]

Can’t disagree really. Some may think the same of repetitive posting. If you simply copied and pasted your own stuff you’d save hours.

I won’t lose sleep what people think on here

 

[Aston max]

Well why don't you cry about it ?

 

[Carlton Blade]

Nobody cares, East Midlands isn't our airport, neither is Manchester, nobody cares that Doncaster Airport has closed, and nobody cares that it might reopen because if it does nobody will use it again.
Nobody cares about the steel making past, the Universities are not world renowned, they're ok and nothing more than that and there is no appetite for football in United's half of the city unless you can get the whole family in for a tenner and get pie and chips for a quid and a replica shirt from five years ago for a fiver.

If you think this is untrue, try letting a multi billionaire take over and promise to sign the worlds best players, but in order to do this he wants a larger stadium to be built and much higher prices will have to be paid by our fans.

They would tell him to foxtrot oscar, and that is why no multi billionaire buys us.

The average Mr & Mrs Sheffield want cheap and tacky in everything they buy, and their football is no different, they cannot imagine paying £45-£50 to see Haaland and De Bruyne if they can pay £25 to see Slimane and Benni Traore

It's the same reason why a Harvey Nichols in the City Centre would dive bomb within 12 months, nobody would pay. The people that run these companies know that so they don't come here, and the same thing applies to footballing minded billionaires.

So now you're slagging off the whole city and it's inhabitants?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I won’t lose sleep what people think on here

Your daylight hours often seem tense.

 

[Sean Thornton]

So now you're slagging off the whole city and it's inhabitants?

Were you on Blades Mad? He never stopped.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Were you on Blades Mad? He never stopped.

If only the average Mr and Mrs Sheffield had his refined tastes

 

[JJBlade]

So now you're slagging off the whole city and it's inhabitants?

Yes, always have done

 

[Carlton Blade]

Yes, always have done

Why? I'm assuming you think you're better than the average Sheffielder?

 

[Working Class Hero]

There are a few billionaire owners now, who have invested in clubs in places such as Wigan, Portsmouth, Barnsley, Ipswich, Blackburn, Sunderland , Preston, Leicester, Burnley, Wolverhampton, Stoke-on-Trent. All towns and cities that are notoriously shit, and having visited all of them, I can safely say worse than Sheffield.

 

[Grey Blade]

I didn't expect us to stay up this season, and whilst I didn't expect the appalling levels of performance we've actually seen, we can at least return to the lower division and hopefully win a few games and feel better about ourselves.

Like wise I expected us to struggle and hoped we might just be good enough to avoid relegation. As things are, we can't expect to compete at Premier level and I find it difficult to understand why a section of our fans have such unrealistic expectations. We haven't got enough strength in depth to compete. The top teams virtually have a first team on the bench. How can we possibly compete with that.

 

[Tuns25]

Is the main problem that Sheffield is not attractive or United?
We seem to have accepted our lot and our ceiling like no other club our size. This in turn creates an impression in the football world that we are a lot smaller and have less potential than we have. It becomes self fulfilling.
On the other side of the city we may call them deluded but their attitude exaggerates their potential to the point the football world thinks they are bigger than they are.
I think one day they will get a big investor because there is a belief they can achieve and will achieve at some point and that is attractive to an investor. We have accepted we can't from top to bottom and I can't see why any big investor wants to be part of that.

 

[JJBlade]

Why? I'm assuming you think you're better than the average Sheffielder?

No, I don't.
But quality costs money, and I don't believe in false economy.

Sheffield does not have enough people that would support a big successful team, they have almost half a million that would reject it because it's not "proper football"

 

[Snowflake]

There is a reason we can't find a credible buyer for the club... Sheffield .. pains me to say it who wants to invest in Sheffield does anyone invest in Sheffield. Leeds Manchester investible. Im Starting to think the problem is Sheffield

So why did anyone buy Reading ?

 

[Carlton Blade]

No, I don't.
But quality costs money, and I don't believe in false economy.

Sheffield does not have enough people that would support a big successful team, they have almost half a million that would reject it because it's not "proper football"

What the fuck does any of that have to do with your bullshit about the average person from Sheffield wanting "cheap and tacky"?

 

[CarlMcBlade]

What about Burnley? There’s a club that’s continually over performed for the size of the town

Yeah, Mosborough’s bigger than Burnley FFS.

 

[JJBlade]

What the fuck does any of that have to do with your bullshit about the average person from Sheffield wanting "cheap and tacky"?

When the oil money bought Man City they knew that they could raise the profile of the club and if the older style fans wouldn't pay the increased prices and support the club financially like they have never done before, another 50 odd thousand people would, and if they increased the stadium capacity again they would get even more fans in.

How many of our "sleeping fans" would do this if 20,000 of our regular fans said "I'm not paying it" or "I can't afford it".
None, the club hasn't done enough to build up an underbelly of support waiting until the club gets it right.

 

[Carlton Blade]

When the oil money bought Man City they knew that they could raise the profile of the club and if the older style fans wouldn't pay the increased prices and support the club financially like they have never done before, another 50 odd thousand people would, and if they increased the stadium capacity again they would get even more fans in.

How many of our "sleeping fans" would do this if 20,000 of our regular fans said "I'm not paying it" or "I can't afford it".
None, the club hasn't done enough to build up an underbelly of support waiting until the club gets it right.

Again, nothing to do with football or football fans.

What makes you think the average person from Sheffield wants "cheap and tacky"?