Wilder / Holgate

[Berkshire Blade]

Which doesn't mean you have to remain wedded to it forever.

No but it works well. I know it's a big clear out in the summer but it's not a total one so it will have to be built on the frame work we already have

 

[jono_t2000]

Ii still like the 4-3-3 we played pre Holgates arrival

With BBD and Mcatee as wide forwards.

 

[hidesbehindapseudonym]

I'd rather see Grbic at cb then Holgate, two Wilder signings that are league 1 at best

Hes currently on £70k is ge not??

In which case we are bonkers and he can fuck off back

 

[RecordBreakers]

I just don’t see us having the players for a back 4.

We don’t have any wingers. Every manager has tried to take us away from a back 5 and they all revert back too it.

But we are In need of a rebuild so surely this summer is the perfect time to reset an reshape the squad.

 

[ancientblade]

But we are In need of a rebuild so surely this summer is the perfect time to reset an reshape the squad.

spot on we need to try something different with different personell

 

[bertieblade]

Holgate very nearly cost us a goal when he went walkabout at the edge of his box, tried to impress and lost possession, luckily for us a Liverpool player was too busy thinking of which hub caps to nick and we managed to win it back.

he Would not be value for money as is not much better than an average championship CB that we could pick up on less than £10k / week as he always has one in him and thinks he is better than he is. The centre back equivalent of Norwood

 

[Bladezz]

But we are In need of a rebuild so surely this summer is the perfect time to reset a reshape the squad.

Just giving my opinion mate. Obviously management team will sit down see who’s available and who we can get etc.

I do want us to be more fluid like Wolves they will go 433 or go 343 so we could always do with some wingers and be flexible.

This season we have tried 4 and had some success but I think a back 5 with the players in contract will suit us more.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Think we need to retain him he will shine in the champ him and brewster can be 2 of the spine.

 

[Nagima]

Watching back the highlights on YouTube I get the impression that he is lazy and disinterested. His lack of urgency to get across to prevent Liverpool players getting on the ball and getting off a shot in the box is disappointing.

Holgate has talent, and there is no doubt about that. Its his drive and ambition that are missing. He is in real danger of being another Jack Rodwell.

 

[Not so Slim ane]

Think we need to retain him he will shine in the champ him and brewster can be 2 of the spine.

Is this sarcasm?

 

[Pennblade]

Wilder has shown once again he has terrible judgement when it comes to signing players. Everton and Southampton fans were very clear just how bad Holgate is. He couldn’t get into either team. Our fans were very clear we did not want Holgate signed. Wilder must have known the views of supporters. In his own bloody minded “I know best” way, he still went ahead with the signing. I don’t believe for one second Holgate was the only option during the transfer window. Wilder wasted the budget when he was last here and it would seem he’s learnt nothing.
Since his last spell with us, Wilder has been a complete failure. He should never have come back and the sooner he’s gone, the better.

I'm not saying you're wrong about Wilder but in all fairness who else was available for nothing or next to nothing. For the last four seasons the three managers we've had have been forced, by the owner to shop in the bargain basement. Peanuts come to mind.

 

[steve26272]

Think we need to retain him he will shine in the champ him and brewster can be 2 of the spine.

Grbic, Holgate, Davies, brewster

Spine of a team…… sponsored by brittle bone society

They once offered me a job on £100,000 a year

Snapped their fuckin hand off

 

[Champagneblade]

He had started to win me round a bit.

However, he has a 5 minute spell yesterday where he scared the life out of me.

Went off plan on the free kick and played everyone onside, though BBD sleeping defensively again. Then completely let their guy in followed by getting on the wrong side and giving away a pen (which was only a pen if the one at the end is!).

 

[Weasel]

For the money he would want with wages and bonuses, we can do so much better than Holgate.

If he was a cheapish punt on average championship wages then maybe he would be worth bringing in, but I don't see that he will be and he will be overpriced for what he brings to the table. Let him leave at the end of the season, shame his hand and move on to other targets. Preferably someone who can stay switched on and defend for a full game on a consistent basis (and probably on a lot less money).

 

[Flippity Gibbert]

I'm not saying you're wrong about Wilder but in all fairness who else was available for nothing or next to nothing. For the last four seasons the three managers we've had have been forced, by the owner to shop in the bargain basement. Peanuts come to mind.

Didn’t he actually want Worrall from Forest, but they changed the deal at the last minute, thus backing Wilder into a corner.

 

[UddersBlade]

Correct…. Worrall was first choice, but Forest played hard ball - never really going to help out a competitor. Worrall was also pissed off and was keen to come here….ended up being shipped out on loan to Greece.

As long as Forest don’t get relegated, he will be he’s next season. He would be great at Championship level - a great vocal leader who would go a long way to sorting our defence out.

My info(as posted before) comes from a ‘well connected’ Forest fan I know who lives / works up here now - no reason to not believe him.

 

[ancientblade]

Correct…. Worrall was first choice, but Forest played hard ball - never really going to help out a competitor. Worrall was also pissed off and was keen to come here….ended up being shipped out on loan to Greece.

As long as Forest don’t get relegated, he will be he’s next season. He would be great at Championship level - a great vocal leader who would go a long way to sorting our defence out.

My info(as posted before) comes from a ‘well connected’ Forest fan I know who lives / works up here now - no reason to not believe him.

yes ive heard the same if forest stay up (which actually i hope they dont) think its nailed on for worrall to come here and possibly be made captain i dont rate holgate at all certainly not at the salary he would demand he was awful at southampton but would also expect us to sign another centre back as well if anel goes

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Anyone connected to this season (barring maybe Arblaster) should think themselves fucking lucky to be here next season.

Holgate has been part of a historically bad PL defence so I honestly don't think he should be here a minute longer than contractually stipulated.

Robinson is probably the only defender who I'd consider keeping, and even then it's not a given.

It's difficult to put into words how bad we've been and if we're to halt the direction of travel for next season we desperately need as much fresh energy and athletic ability as we can get our hands on.