Selles replacement

[Toto]

We have some very good players any manager worth his salt should be able to get them playing, We don't need a top name Mark Robins for me would do a great job but doubt he would leave Stoke.

 

[ZLB]

Writing's on the wall for Selles.

Looking ahead, who would you go for...

Chris.

 

[Half Bond Jls]

I'd prefer Gareth Gates

He's been recalled to prison for not finishing his sentence.

 

[jack's the lad]

I'd even take carrick as things stand

 

[Laney Blade]

It's a really weird trait to actually want to piss Wilder off.

Yes they're psychopaths

 

[brownblade]

Young Spanish coach called Selles.

Why don't we have any threads like "Now he's got this defender", "How long you embed new tactics with new players" etc?! All pessimism and very little optimism.

We need to be patient. I know that's hard for people in 2025, but good gravy, have a beer or whatever relaxes you and just give it awhile. We won't get relegated. We were unlikely to get promoted this season.

I don't really want to compare Selles to Amorim because it's a bad comparison in many ways (but similar in others). I'm too tired to outline the parallels.
Amorim has had an absolute nightmare so far at that other United, but clearly isn't incapable, or a fraud etc etc - whatever their fans are labelling him. He might get sacked but he's at least had some time there. He'll get a big job elsewhere if he goes. The majority of appointments fail, but they need ample chance to succeed.

Similar with Selles just a bit lower down the food chain - and just because it's been shit doesn't mean it'll stay shit. Sacking a manager 4 games into the season would be ridiculous. We've only just signed some players! The defence was shit, with no defensive midfielders. So we were obviously going to struggle until signings came in, unfortunately, that's not the managers fault in any way.

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[JayGreen17]

Genuinely think Danny Rohl would be a good shout

Yes someone else who’s unproven… no thanks

 

[Thrice]

Young Spanish coach called Selles.

Why don't we have any threads like "Now he's got this defender", "How long you embed new tactics with new players" etc?! All pessimism and very little optimism.

We need to be patient. I know that's hard for people in 2025, but good gravy, have a beer or whatever relaxes you and just give it awhile. We won't get relegated. We were unlikely to get promoted this season.

I don't really want to compare Selles to Amorim because it's a bad comparison in many ways (but similar in others). I'm too tired to outline the parallels.
Amorim has had an absolute nightmare so far at that other United, but clearly isn't incapable, or a fraud etc etc - whatever their fans are labelling him. He might get sacked but he's at least had some time there. He'll get a big job elsewhere if he goes. The majority of appointments fail, but they need ample chance to succeed.

Similar with Selles just a bit lower down the food chain - and just because it's been shit doesn't mean it'll stay shit. Sacking a manager 4 games into the season would be ridiculous. We've only just signed some players! The defence was shit, with no defensive midfielders. So we were obviously going to struggle until signings came in, unfortunately, that's not the managers fault in any way.

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I think Amorim is a fraud tbf, so a comparison for Selles I like better is Iraola at Bournemouth. It took him until matchday 10 to get his first win. He went 0-3-6 in his first 9 games and many people (me included) thought sacking O'Neil (who did fairly decent all things considered) for some unknown Spanish manager was a horrible decision.

Well, look at Bournemouth now. Punching well above their weight and it's only a matter of time until Iraola lands at one of the big clubs.

 

[brownblade]

I think Amorim is a fraud tbf, so a comparison for Selles I like better is Iraola at Bournemouth. It took him until matchday 10 to get his first win. He went 0-3-6 in his first 9 games and many people (me included) thought sacking O'Neil (who did fairly decent all things considered) for some unknown Spanish manager was a horrible decision.

Well, look at Bournemouth now. Punching well above their weight and it's only a matter of time until Iraola lands at one of the big clubs.

Maybe a better comparison with him yeah. Not that he was unknown, btw.

Amorim is hardly a fraud - can't have been pure luck at Sporting, despite being a big team in their country. They annihilated Man City in one of his last games in charge, for example.

But good point overall and yes, let's hope fans can be patient, avoid knee jerk (or just jerk) reactions.

 

[jono_t2000]

Amorim has had an absolute nightmare so far at that other United, but clearly isn't incapable, or a fraud etc etc - whatever their fans are labelling him. He might get sacked but he's at least had some time there. He'll get a big job elsewhere if he goes. The majority of appointments fail, but they need ample chance to succeed.


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Comparing Amorin to Selles is hilarious btw

Even with Amorins poor time at Manure, he's still only lost 18% of matches he's ever managed in his career.

Compare that to Selles who's lost a whopping 41% of games he's managed

The difference is night and day.

All managers that have been discussed as a potential replacement for Selles have way better stats than Selles (apart from O'Neil who's equally as bad and I have no idea why people might want him)

 

[Thrice]

Maybe a better comparison with him yeah. Not that he was unknown, btw.

Amorim is hardly a fraud - can't have been pure luck at Sporting, despite being a big team in their country. They annihilated Man City in one of his last games in charge, for example.

But good point overall and yes, let's hope fans can be patient, avoid knee jerk (or just jerk) reactions.

True, Iraola wasn't completely unknown. But I don't think many people followed Rayo Vallecano.

I'm not sold on Amorim at all tbh. Sporting's record with and without him last season is nearly identical. He seems to do relatively well in an underdog position, like he did against City (as you mentioned). He also beat City with Man United and they looked good against Arsenal and Liverpool. But as soon as his team has to actually take the initiative he seems to be pretty clueless tbh.

 

[Thrice]

Comparing Amorin to Selles is hilarious btw

Even with Amorins poor time at Manure, he's still only lost 18% of matches he's ever managed in his career.

Compare that to Selles who's lost a whopping 41% of games he's managed

The difference is night and day.

All managers that have been discussed as a potential replacement for Selles have way better stats than Selles (apart from O'Neil who's equally as bad and I have no idea why people might want him)

When your striker practically averages a goal per game your're bound to have a good record. Look at his record at Sporting before he got Gyokeres. They finished 4th in a league that's usually dominated by 3 clubs.

 

[brownblade]

Comparing Amorin to Selles is hilarious btw

Even with Amorins poor time at Manure, he's still only lost 18% of matches he's ever managed in his career.

Compare that to Selles who's lost a whopping 41% of games he's managed

The difference is night and day.

All managers that have been discussed as a potential replacement for Selles have way better stats than Selles (apart from O'Neil who's equally as bad and I have no idea why people might want him)

As even the most ardent stats person would say - stats aren't everything. Amorim managed one of the best teams in Portugal. Selles cut his teeth at a broken Reading and a nearly broken Hull.

Considering the criticism our transfer window has received, shouldn't we cut the brand new manager some slack?

If we sack him on Monday, might we sack the next manager after another 4 games?!

 

[FredZeppelin]

If we sack him on Monday, might we sack the next manager after another 4 games?!

Yes, quite possibly if the owners show the same incredible ignorance and appoint a loser like O'Neil or an unlikeable, greasy, scrote like Rohl.

Knowing very little about football maybe they should realise how out of their depth they are on the subject and actually listen to established football people and the fanbase. Maybe then we'll appoint a manager with the relative experience to take us forward and one who'll enjoy a bit more leeway and patience from the fans being the one that the majority chose.

Whilst ever they rely on AI backed indications, stat-lead guesses and hopeful picks they'll keep costing themselves substantial sums of money to pay them off when it all goes tits up.

utb

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Gary O’Neil: I have watched every Premier League game since I left Wolves

Gary O’Neil: I have watched every Premier League game since I left Wolves

Exclusive interview: Former Wolves coach on ‘whirlwind’ start to management, visiting Guardiola and Wigan Warriors, and hopes for next job

www.telegraph.co.uk

An interesting read.
G O'Neil was allegedly one of our top three choices along with Selles, so could well be on our radar.

 

[Harry's Game]

Gary O’Neil: I have watched every Premier League game since I left Wolves

Gary O’Neil: I have watched every Premier League game since I left Wolves

Exclusive interview: Former Wolves coach on ‘whirlwind’ start to management, visiting Guardiola and Wigan Warriors, and hopes for next job

www.telegraph.co.uk

An interesting read.
G O'Neil was allegedly one of our top three choices along with Selles, so could well be on our radar.

Said in the shoutbox discussion this morning I had a feeling O’Neil is maybe the one COH would go for, fits their model … would not be my choice though

 

[UddersBlade]

Why is Wilder back not an option because many would chose that in a poll?

I can't believe Michael Carrick is on the list but not Wilder back. I'd still go for Dave Challinor over anyone on the list, then Dyche, then Wilder back, then Rohl. I'm not a Steve Cooper fan but I appreciate I'm in the minority here. When he does well with a low budget and average players for the league he's in then fair enough.

Realistically, we'll probably not go for Dyche or he won't come, same with cooper and Wilder. COH won't know who Dave Challinor is neither and so I can't see that one. So from your list and realistic managers it's got to be Danny Rohl. The last ex Wendy called Danny didn't do too bad job in my view!

I remember vividly sticking up for Wilson when he was appointed and I got dogs abuse but it was on Blades Mad then!

I’d happily see Wilder mk 3 come back - but I think this poll is being realistic in regard to it being very unlikely that COH sports will eat humble pie & reappoint Chris W.

 

[JayGreen17]

If they sign Gary O’Neill they deserve to fail.

If you own a football club amd want to go up as quickly as possible do you

a) go for someone with proven experience of getting out of this league with a team in similar circumstances
b) go for a rookie manager with no experience of the league or getting a club out of it….

They’ve already gone down the B route, and failed miserably

If they’re serious about success they need to go for Cooper, he got a club promoted in a similar situation, he’s a good coach as well as a manager. If they go for another b) Rohl, O’Neill, Carrick,… then welcome to the managerial merry go round, and championship obscurity, because if we don’t go up this year then think Norwich… it could be over a decade or more to get anywhere near the top flight again without some serious investment.

If not Cooper Dyche, a club man who has bags of experience of promotion and keeping teams in the prem.

 

[Davalon]

Only one man for me 'the winner'



Following in the footsteps of a former manager with his 'salute' on a night out

 

[Rodley]

Comparing Amorin to Selles is hilarious btw

Even with Amorins poor time at Manure, he's still only lost 18% of matches he's ever managed in his career.

Compare that to Selles who's lost a whopping 41% of games he's managed

The difference is night and day.

All managers that have been discussed as a potential replacement for Selles have way better stats than Selles (apart from O'Neil who's equally as bad and I have no idea why people might want him)

You’d need to find a Spanish manager who has never done owt and only managed for 2.5 (?) seasons.

The comparable could maybe be Xisco Munoz, but he won a promotion at Watford?

 

[Matlock Blade]

All those who want Rohl... I don't think hiswin percentage is good. I've voted Cooper.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

The obvious choice is Cooper. Look what he did at Forest..

 

[Silky Sabella]

What a waste of everyone's lives this thread is when the manager is going nowhere!

 

[KMC-1889]

I don’t know how many more times it needs saying but Cooper & Dyche aren’t taking championship jobs, Cooper has been sounded out a few times. Both were also chased out of their club by fans.

Mousinho is a realistic target, my preference would have been Robins.

 

[Mad Mick]

Feck me, I can’t believe 61 Blades voted for Bog Rohl.

 

[Champagneblade]

Ok, hear me out. Why is Hecky not on there?

1. Already got a team promoted (us)
2. Respected by the players
3. Respected by the fans
4. Dismissed largely due to issues beyond his control
5. Loves the coaching most, would likely work in any structure
6. Showed he’s good at organising an existing squad

He’s an intelligent, educated guy. Taking it on its merits, why not? What’s the argument against?

 

[blade_ben]

Ok, hear me out. Why is Hecky not on there?

1. Already got a team promoted (us)
2. Respected by the players
3. Respected by the fans
4. Dismissed largely due to issues beyond his control
5. Loves the coaching most, would likely work in any structure
6. Showed he’s good at organising an existing squad

He’s an intelligent, educated guy. Taking it on its merits, why not? What’s the argument against?

The tactic was get it to Ndiaye or McAtee and hope they do something. No thanks

 

[Champagneblade]

The tactic was get it to Ndiaye or McAtee and hope they do something. No thanks

So, his tactic was to get our better players on the ball, whilst having enough solidity to keep it tight at the other end.

Seems sensible. Wouldn’t we want to get Hamer as involved as possible? Perhaps Ogbene too?

Let’s face it, if you remove the Blades affiliation that always draws some rolling of the eyes, he’s more qualified than most on the list and arguably inherited a very similar situation; a foreign coach who bamboozles the playing staff. Just because he’s been here before should not go against him. He’s not a Bladey Blade Manager but he is a bloke who speaks and acts with dignity and was the patsy for poor backing in the PL.

O’Neil has no promotions, has inherited decent squads and been binned only for his successor to do miles better, twice.

Carrick has no promotions and went backwards in the end.

Rohl no promotions, a pretty jammy survival (see Boro air shot, QPR away ricochet) then did ok in a low point 12th spot.

Cooper failed at Leicester. He was a a stud length away from Hecky deservedly knocking him out of the Play offs and won the penalty kick lottery. Benefited from a ludicrous 30 man recruitment policy though creditably managed to make it work. His successor is doing far better.

Mousinho up and coming though no promotion to PL.

Dyche, outstanding candidate. Got teams promoted, kept them up repeatedly on budget. Eats gravel.

My choice would be Dyche then Hecky once Dyche has probably said no.

 

[Nick Jansky]

You’d need to find a Spanish manager who has never done owt and only managed for 2.5 (?) seasons.

The comparable could maybe be Xisco Munoz, but he won a promotion at Watford?

Thomas Frank had an unsuccessful 2.5 year stint at Brondby as his only club management experience when Brentford appointed him.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

What a waste of everyone's lives this thread is when the manager is going nowhere!

Disagree.

We probably lose away at Ipswich.
If we then don't beat Charlton at home it's curtains.