Cooper or Dyche

[Toronto Blade]

So we stick with Selles?
Which manager we bring in now if going to create a stable top tier side for us?

The most important thing is to get the best manager available.Selles is definitely not the right man for this size of a task.The club must move on this now.Otherwise we will go from contenders to hoping we can finish above Wendy

 

[simpson07]

But Wilder singlehandedly paved the path to the current shitshow with last 30 mins at Wembley. Short memories some people

And he brought in Cannon

 

[I should coco]

Don’t get Gary O’Neil, the English Selles, go for someone who can do the business. Throw a boatload of cash at Cooper, or go for Dyche.

You've changed your tune.

Pre-season you were telling us about how RS's magical coaching would take us to the promised land.

The sceptics (sorry, 'bedwetters'), warned otherwise, but you knew your stuff.

 

[SufcBilly]

Phillip John Neville

 

[KMC-1889]

I don't understand your point?

You want our next manager to be the one who keeps us in the prem permanently? Have you looked at the league table?

This sort of thinking demonstrates a real lack of understanding of what goes into becoming a premier league club.

look at how teams like Liverpool, Brentford, Brighton etc… have gone about the process of replacing managers, it’s barely affected their output. Liverpool replaced their best manager in a lifetime and his replacement won the league. Brentford have replaced Frank with Keith Andrew’s and it’s barely changed their results.

This is why managers like Dyche & Cooper (and now wilder) are out of jobs, no one wants that type of manager anymore because any success is short term, and only lasts as long as the manager gets a tune out of the players. There is nothing sustainable about it.

Even championship clubs like Bristol, Norwich, Swansea. Oxford etc… have given up chasing short term success to introduce a system where the success of the entire club isn’t driven by a single person.

More than happy to argue about the lack of success our board have had achieving this, but all those chasing Selles out need to realise the next manager will be in the same mould.

 

[thehet]

This sort of thinking demonstrates a real lack of understanding of what goes into becoming a premier league club.

look at how teams like Liverpool, Brentford, Brighton etc… have gone about the process of replacing managers, it’s barely affected their output. Liverpool replaced their best manager in a lifetime and his replacement won the league. Brentford have replaced Frank with Keith Andrew’s and it’s barely changed their results.

This is why managers like Dyche & Cooper (and now wilder) are out of jobs, no one wants that type of manager anymore because any success is short term, and only lasts as long as the manager gets a tune out of the players. There is nothing sustainable about it.

Even championship clubs like Bristol, Norwich, Swansea. Oxford etc… have given up chasing short term success to introduce a system where the success of the entire club isn’t driven by a single person.

More than happy to argue about the lack of success our board have had achieving this, but all those chasing Selles out need to realise the next manager will be in the same mould.

I’m not chasing Selles out. But all this talk of sustaining in the Premier League is premature when we are sat bottom of the Championship whilst we seemingly intend to have a managerial merry go round until hopefully someone gets lucky. And if they are unlucky enough to miss out on the last game of the season, we’ll sack them and start all over again.

 

[Rodley]

You've changed your tune.

Pre-season you were telling us about how RS's magical coaching would take us to the promised land.

The sceptics (sorry, 'bedwetters'), warned otherwise, but you knew your stuff.

I’ve always been sceptical on Selles but my position was that COH must have identified some hidden tactical abilities, hitherto unseen, which would elevate us or we wouldn’t have appointed him.

I’ve not dished out Bedwetters about this summer as I think concerns were largely reasonable.

 

[I should coco]

I’ve always been sceptical on Selles but my position was that COH must have identified some hidden tactical abilities, hitherto unseen, which would elevate us or we wouldn’t have appointed him.

I’ve not dished out Bedwetters about this summer as I think concerns were largely reasonable.

I took your post about his wonderful coaching abilities, at face vale, but if you were being ironic, then fair enough.

In my mind you did a fair bit of cheerleading for RS, so either you are being a bit of a tinker here, or, my old brain is more addled than I thought.

 

[YabbaDabba]

ten Hag available.

 

[Chris the Blade]

Phillip John Neville

His Dad's called Neville Neville. Quite remarkable.

 

[Youngand70]

This sort of thinking demonstrates a real lack of understanding of what goes into becoming a premier league club.

look at how teams like Liverpool, Brentford, Brighton etc… have gone about the process of replacing managers, it’s barely affected their output. Liverpool replaced their best manager in a lifetime and his replacement won the league. Brentford have replaced Frank with Keith Andrew’s and it’s barely changed their results.

This is why managers like Dyche & Cooper (and now wilder) are out of jobs, no one wants that type of manager anymore because any success is short term, and only lasts as long as the manager gets a tune out of the players. There is nothing sustainable about it.

Even championship clubs like Bristol, Norwich, Swansea. Oxford etc… have given up chasing short term success to introduce a system where the success of the entire club isn’t driven by a single person.

More than happy to argue about the lack of success our board have had achieving this, but all those chasing Selles out need to realise the next manager will be in the same mould.

19 of 20 Premier League clubs had Directors of Football/Sporting Directors last season and systems/strategies in place to ensure the smooth running of the clubs including recruitment. The vast number of major clubs throughout Europe have had Directors of Football/Sporting Directors and successful systems/strategies for years. A prime example, albeit at very high level, is Bayern Munich - last 7 seasons 6 Bundesliga titles and 1 Champions League win with 5 different coaches, including Vincent Kompany who was relegated with Burnley. He was able to fit in seamlessly into the "Bayern way" and continue their success.

 

[I should coco]

19 of 20 Premier League clubs had Directors of Football/Sporting Directors last season and systems/strategies in place to ensure the smooth running of the clubs including recruitment. The vast number of major clubs throughout Europe have had Directors of Football/Sporting Directors and successful systems/strategies for years. A prime example, albeit at very high level, is Bayern Munich - last 7 seasons 6 Bundesliga titles and 1 Champions League win with 5 different coaches, including Vincent Kompany who was relegated with Burnley. He was able to fit in seamlessly into the "Bayern way" and continue their success.

Yeah, so what.

We've got Bettis, some sneks" and Dorris the tea lady - so what's your point?

" With apologies to Webding

 

[Youngand70]

Yeah, so what.

We've got Bettis, some sneks" and Dorris the tea lady - so what's your point?

" With apologies to Webding

To much milk in the tea and the snek has bitten the club cat