He has to go

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That may be, but playing devil's advocate, if we'd had this season last season, would 'fans' still be as disgruntled?

Wilder got a mid-Championship team promoted and had an amazing first season. We're now back to earth with a bump...

Who's at fault for that?
The issue for me is that the first 11 hasnt improved from last season. We have clearly made mistakes in the transfer market with certain players and seem to be more content with increasing our squad players rather than the 2 or 3 we needed to improve the first 11. This fact that Lundstram and McGoldrick ( and arguably Basham) are starting games and that we didnt get a 1st team replacement for JOC even on loan shows how poor our recruitment strategy has been.
 
Same again tonight in his post match interview, “Look what they can bring off the bench, top three side in the country etc”. Chris, we fucking know this. What I don’t accept and I can’t believe I’m saying this of a Chris Wilder side, is a lack of effort and desire. OK we lose to Chelsea, but go down with a FUCKING FIGHT!!! Seeing Lundstrum jog around the pitch, with 50% effort boiled my fucking piss tonight. Wilder is to blame picking the cunt. I’d rather a 17 year old from the Academy play than that lumbering scouse turd with his overinflated ego. I also think a gravy train is developing now at United. Players obviously not good enough and past it being given two year contracts? Money that could be spent a lot better elsewhere. Watching that pile of wank tonight and the past 5 months reminds me of the last days of Dave Bassett. Thing is though, Dave didn’t spend £100 million on mostly bang average players.
The in-fighting here tonight is reminiscent of Bassett’s last few weeks. In those days it was face to face, punch to punch, etc. Not sure which is more depressing.
 
Give it Big Sam till end of season.

Joking. We can’t sack Wilder. Not at the moment anyway.
 
We were the 10th biggest spenders this summer. Ooooh we are soooo poor.

I'm gobsmacked that you think the Prince isn't backing us to be competitive. We've never had this level of investment ever. He's sanctioned every signing that Wilder has wanted. If they don't work, who's fault do you think that is?

We've never been in the Premier league on a minimum of a 120 million per season. Probably more like 150 all in, when you include all sources of income. Comparisons with previous boards are as naive as they are groundless. The teams to compare us too are Burnley - 90 million wage bill plus minimal transfer spend. Bournemouth - 100 million wage bill plus similar transfer spend to United. According to the Prince we're at half of Bournemouth's wage bill when they went down. That's the reality. If you start looking at West Ham, Everton, Wolves, Southampton, Newcastle, Brighton etc we're a million miles away when you factor in transfer fees and wages
 
Personally, CW has earned the right to more than some are showing him in this thread

Yes, we are in the shit, but surely the man deserves more time after what he has done for our club over the previous 4 seasons

All sorts of things have conspired against us, the crowd being one such thing and whilst it affects every team, I think it affects some teams more than others and it’s definitely playing a part atm.

I don’t believe HRH will sack CW. I believe it will be CW himself who will make the decision to leave, but now is not the time IMO. He still has a job to do and needs to start picking up points and I think he will
 
Yes it's Chelsea but. Surely lose affainst West ham he has to go
I never mentioned sacking Wilder on an earlier thread just if people would start asking the question and got a crazy reaction. To save time scrolling through the thread the following informed responses will not agree with you....
Sorry but wanker post

Get fucked mate

Go f youself


F*ck *ff, and go back under your rock, post like this boil my piss.

You surprised me today Blade56

Oh fuck off there should only be one question to answer wanker posts like this! Who would do a better job than Chris Wilder! I hate modern day football fans absolute tossers!

1st bad run we’ve had under CWAK and every ungrateful cretin in our fan base begin to rear they’re ugly heads. Would hate to have to fight in a war with some on here. ‘kin surrender monkeys, and a mere 5 games in at that!

The questions not got to be asked, get a fkn grip.

Pure Chabuddy style click bait.
But it worked as I’m responding, if only to say

Don’t be ridiculous.



Is it time to ban twats from making threads?

Honestly cant believe we are asking this question. We're now the kind of fans we used to take the piss out of.

Sometimes you read OP’s like this and just despair.

You should stick to asking inane consumer questions

1st of all the wanker posts are out of order.

My comment was replying to a post were someone asked if this was a serious question, you had some people backing your comment on sacking Wilder.

sacking a manager 5 games into a season, where in 4 years has grown our club from 11th in league 1 to 9th in the P.L. Its not the right thing to do. Otherwise we get into the mess we had after Warnock and Blackwell left.

Worst suggestion of the season. And I include the suggested signings of Wilshere and Sturridge in that.


Go to bed ya fuckin helmet

The best manager to get us out of this bad run is Chris Wilder.

Probably be a good idea not to sack Chris Wilder.

PS
Wanker Post!

Mate you’ve made yourself look a bit of a prick. Accept it, move on and hope this thread drops of the first page ASAP.

Proper dickhead opening post,have a look at yourself, do people a favour and scurry down to that dump at Hillsboro to be with the rest of the brainless knobs. I wouldn’t want you in the trenches peeing yourself in the corner. The best management we have ever had and you are wanting them gone after 5 matches in the first bad patch we are suffering. Jeez !


Outrageous post. Chris and Al are the best combo for 50 years. If we go down so be it- it's a ridiculously hard league- Fulham today were full of cracking players, and in first half we matched them.

Regardless of Prem or Championship Chris is the man we have a pattern of play , we have identity, what hes done is miraculous, to me it's embarrassing that someone posts this.

It shows no loyalty , no class - total wank** post.

Joined this at page 9, are you Wednesday in disguise? Ffs you want to bin the best manager and all the structure that goes both above and below him. I’d back him regardless of what happens this season, not because I’m a clapper, because I’ve sat through a lot of shit following my team and I know this is only temporary.

The highs last season were because we over achieved. That is not normal. A few fans need to realise this is the hardest league in the world and it’s not easy for anyone

Me too. Never had Blade56 down as a WUM.

Stupid question, not “ brave” or “innovative ».

Changing manager ? Wtf !

Get behind me Satan !

To be honest à whif of pork here.

cant be arsed to read the thread just came in to say no and anyone who thinks that is a dick

This is surely a fucking joke post?!

Anyone seriously thinking this needs to fuck off, and when they’ve done that go fuck off some more!!!! Get out of this club and never darken the doors again.

He should have the job for as long as he wants it. Not a single manager in world football could have done what he’s done with us, and not one would fare any better with where we are now either.
Yes he’s been given money, but like it or not it’s all proportionate and it’s not enough to take us to the levels needed to maintain top 10 football!

Gareth Bale came on as sub today for spurs. He was shit. Miles off. And if we’d signed him he would have made no difference to us at all

Fuck off you muggy fair weather WANKER!!!


This shit doesn't even merit a sensible answer.
Get real for fucks sake.

Not that many on here you would want in the trenches ,
The modern fan in the throw away society even if it's not broke replace.
Spines of jellyfish
Best of luck with the reasoned debate coming your way ;)🤣

For what it’s worth I think Wilder should and will stay. We will stay up top of a religation division of 5 teams
 
I never mentioned sacking Wilder on an earlier thread just if people would start asking the question and got a crazy reaction. To save time scrolling through the thread the following informed responses will not agree with you....



































































Best of luck with the reasoned debate coming your way ;)🤣
I admire the commitment to a theme 👍
 
I said to all those asking Wilder to be replaced never said you had

Fair enough.

In answer to your other question, I think it's clear Wilder had made his mind up that he wanted to sign players from the Championship with something to prove. Not only is that a big gamble but it's an expensive gamble. It can also pay off if you get it right.

My main point is that, I dont think we have been savvy enough in terms of which market we're shopping in. It isn't for me to pinpoint which players we should have signed but there is clear evidence that there is better value for money in markets outside of the UK. I'll again use Berge as an example. If he's English, you can double his price tag straight away but he's by far the best player I've seen in a United shirt....(I'm not an old twat you see ;) )
 
That may be, but playing devil's advocate, if we'd had this season last season, would 'fans' still be as disgruntled?

Wilder got a mid-Championship team promoted and had an amazing first season. We're now back to earth with a bump...

Who's at fault for that?
Exactly, last season was a miracle as well as the premier league promotion season. A few key injuries early doors and that would've been that.
 

I never mentioned sacking Wilder on an earlier thread just if people would start asking the question and got a crazy reaction. To save time scrolling through the thread the following informed responses will not agree with you....



































































Best of luck with the reasoned debate coming your way ;)🤣
It’s not a reasoned debate though is it! Having a reasoned debate would be criticising the manager and discussing what we think he should do and wheat we think he has not done well! Saying sack him after 4 bad months is nonsensical to be honest! If we sack him who do we get and how would that person keep us up with the players we have? Should I tell you the answer or do you want to guess?
 
Personally I'm gutted we've missed out on Clough.

He was the man to steady the ship but we've lost out to the fucking Stags ffs.

Same owd same owd.
 
Look at you all, has no one heard of loyalty?
I'd happily keep wilder even if we finished on 1 point.
How would any other manager get a premier league performance out of these players ?
This management took us from a utter dire shit show in league one to where we are now so please, someone tell me who would be a better replacement?
If we finish on one point? Really?

I’m a Blades fan before a Wilder fan.

Still hoping he will turn it around though, and in the absence of a realistic alternative..
 
Exactly, last season was a miracle as well as the premier league promotion season. A few key injuries early doors and that would've been that.

You mean like the first Championship season when Coutts got injured and the wheels came off?

Now we have Fleck, JOC and (obviously) Henderson unavailable and people are surprised we're struggling!

We've over-performed for two years now, and people need to realise that.
 
I never mentioned sacking Wilder on an earlier thread just if people would start asking the question and got a crazy reaction. To save time scrolling through the thread the following informed responses will not agree with you....



































































Best of luck with the reasoned debate coming your way ;)🤣

For what it’s worth I think Wilder should and will stay. We will stay up top of a religation division of 5 teams
I’ve not read them all, but top marks for multi-quoting. 😆
 
How much was Callum Wilson?
And how much do you think Callum Wilson will be earning and do you think Callum Wilson would come to us instead of Newcastle? You can’t just pluck a player from thin air and say we should sign him is it worked like that football management would be easy!
 
We've never been in the Premier league on a minimum of a 120 million per season. Probably more like 150 all in, when you include all sources of income. Comparisons with previous boards are as naive as they are groundless. The teams to compare us too are Burnley - 90 million wage bill plus minimal transfer spend. Bournemouth - 100 million wage bill plus similar transfer spend to United. According to the Prince we're at half of Bournemouth's wage bill when they went down. That's the reality. If you start looking at West Ham, Everton, Wolves, Southampton, Newcastle, Brighton etc we're a million miles away when you factor in transfer fees and wages

How are comparisons groundless? You questioned the Prince's ability to back the manager. Wilder has persuaded him to overspend on his budget already. I agree we have some catching up to do in terms of other teams in the division, which is exactly the reason it was such a gamble to pay a premium on players from the Championship who are unproven at this level.
 
Exactly!! We were spoilt last season & are probably having the season now that many expected last year..

We can accept that we’re going to struggle and be a team that will be in a relegation battle, but at the moment we’re not even putting up a fight.

1 point from 8 matches is beyond bad. It’s Derby County recording breaking form at the moment. If we were on say 5 or 6 points from 8 matches, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
 

And how much do you think Callum Wilson will be earning and do you think Callum Wilson would come to us instead of Newcastle? You can’t just pluck a player from thin air and say we should sign him is it worked like that football management would be easy!
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying you can get proven PL goal scorers for 20m
 

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