Wilder to Dingles

[Torrix1889]

Wonder if he fucks off when their relegation is all but confirmed to save having it on his CV....?

 

[Swannyblade]

Is this no relegation on his CV really a thing? Like the footballing world isn't aware that he oversaw one of the worst Premier League campaigns ever?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I find it saddening, surprising and perhaps increasingly less surprising how keen folk are to deride the man who brought us so much recent success.

Did he cock up? Yes.
Did he spend inappropriately? Yes.
Was he trying to learn at PL for the first time, like many of us? Yes.

I'll allow him these failings, for all of the good he brought to our club from the depths of L1, against the odds and on very little resource. Our best manager in my lifetime, when we were flying. Memories to cherish.

 

[sitwell]

Hired Wilder, apparently. Now they can get all bone hard at Norwood artfully backlifting a pass to Stevens whilst he gets pressed backwards, watch McBurnie alehouse his way through half a match, cheer on Brewster as he stands clueless somewhere around the opposition back line and smack their foreheads as C3PO's silver leg falls off with a clang and they go 2-0 down in the first 15.

Don't mention Mousset. Maybe he'll do a half, maybe not.

Wilder will just blame the fans

pommpey

The hatred for anything Utd just shines through

 

[Varkanoid]

Where-ever he ends up lets hope he takes some of our players he thought so highly of with him in the next transfer window.

 

[pommpey]

The hatred for anything Utd just shines through

Have a like for that. Not for your point (because there is none) But because it's the most typically Sitwell thing you could have posted.

pommpey

 

[SwissBlade]

Is this no relegation on his CV really a thing? Like the footballing world isn't aware that he oversaw one of the worst Premier League campaigns ever?

Of course not. As you said, everyone saw what a cracking job he did up to Covid and how it unravelled last season/ post lockdown. He'd already offered his resignation once before during last season as things were in a mess behind the scenes

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

An emotional return to Dingle Dell for Hoofy McCarthy looks a better bet to me. He’d be the man to reconnect them with the Ismail style anyhow.

 

[sitwell]

Have a like for that. Not for your point (because there is none) But because it's the most typically Sitwell thing you could have posted.

pommpey

Do what I want ,its not 'my take'

 

[Torrix1889]

as things were in a mess behind the scenes

That were absolutely nothing to do with CW of course.....

 

[SwissBlade]

That were absolutely nothing to do with CW of course.....

The ones that CW had the problems with weren't, no.
Just like those same problems (and some additional ones) aren't Slav's fault.

 

[Cheesebored]

He's rich.

How rich? I'm still waiting for your reply to your waffling on how much his settlement was. I'll not hold my breath.

 

[Swannyblade]

things were in a mess behind the scenes

the leaky roof?

 

[Torrix1889]

The ones that CW had the problems with weren't, no.
Just like those same problems (and some additional ones) aren't Slav's fault.

So which ones did CW have a problem with that were nothing to do with him....apart from the promised upgrades at Shirecliffe?

 

[SwissBlade]

So which ones did CW have a problem with that were nothing to do with him....apart from the promised upgrades at Shirecliffe?

Quite a number which have been discussed on here over the last 6-12 months...
And some others that may or may not have been discussed on here, but i haven't read too much on the Wilder/ Prince threads lately.

 

[Torrix1889]

Quite a number which have been discussed on here over the last 6-12 months...
And some others that may or may not have been discussed on here, but i haven't read too much on the Wilder/ Prince threads lately.

OK.....

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

I find it saddening, surprising and perhaps increasingly less surprising how keen folk are to deride the man who brought us so much recent success.

Did he cock up? Yes.
Did he spend inappropriately? Yes.
Was he trying to learn at PL for the first time, like many of us? Yes.

I'll allow him these failings, for all of the good he brought to our club from the depths of L1, against the odds and on very little resource. Our best manager in my lifetime, when we were flying. Memories to cherish.

Its quite sad really

These will be the same people who shout at the goalkeeper and when he plays a 5 yard pass and scream at the ref every 30 seconds at the matches no doubt

 

[blades78]

He'll be the next Sunderland manager when Johnson goes in a few weeks.

 

[metalblade]

I'm all for CW to dinglesville if he takes Fleck and Norwood with him, oh and Burke and oh nevermind y'all know what I mean.

 

[SwissBlade]

OK.....

What? If you need to ask me now after all this time, i'm not going to go over old ground and repeat what many others as well as myself have mentioned previously.

There were a number of issues that weren't Wilders doing, still exist now and won't be fixed by the owner doing a PR exercise every few months... Wilder had his own failings, which have also been discussed. Players had their failings, which get discussed daily. But there were many other things that Wilder raised either publicly or to the Prince (which the Prince mentioned, not Wilder) that have never been addressed since.

Then there are other things that haven't been mentioned publicly by those inside the club or Wilder, but are known to have contributed to him leaving.

As it stands - Slav is dealing with many of the same problems that Wilder had

 

[Smirth]

He'll be the next Sunderland manager when Johnson goes in a few weeks.

This wouldn't surprise me at all. I think he may have to do a similar job with what he did for us if he wants to manage another 'big' club.

Could also see him managing at Derby in League 1 next season.

 

[metalblade]

This wouldn't surprise me at all. I think he may have to do a similar job with what he did for us if he wants to manage another 'big' club.

Could also see him managing at Derby in League 1 next season.

More chance of us being in league one than Derby

 

[Torrix1889]

What? If you need to ask me now after all this time, i'm not going to go over old ground and repeat what many others as well as myself have mentioned previously.

There were a number of issues that weren't Wilders doing, still exist now and won't be fixed by the owner doing a PR exercise every few months... Wilder had his own failings, which have also been discussed. Players had their failings, which get discussed daily. But there were many other things that Wilder raised either publicly or to the Prince (which the Prince mentioned, not Wilder) that have never been addressed since.

Then there are other things that haven't been mentioned publicly by those inside the club or Wilder, but are known to have contributed to him leaving.

As it stands - Slav is dealing with many of the same problems that Wilder had

Appreciate that but how many of the "behind the scenes" things were caused by Wilders failings....that was the point I was making.

 

[SwissBlade]

Appreciate that but how many of the "behind the scenes" things were caused by Wilders failings....that was the point I was making.

Not sure who was to blame.... but outside the playing side of things, unlikely to be things which could be put entirely at Wilders door, if at all.

 

[Torrix1889]

Not sure who was to blame.... but outside the playing side of things, unlikely to be things which could be put entirely at Wilders door, if at all.

Apart from pushing for expensive signings on big wages I suppose..

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Apart from pushing for expensive signings on big wages I suppose..

How do you know what expensive signings on big wages he pushed for?

 

[SwissBlade]

Apart from pushing for expensive signings on big wages I suppose..

I know of at least one of those signings that was apparently outside of the agreed budget, was signed as an 'extra' player.

Slav, like Wilder before gives his list of players to the board and then there are commercial people that then take care of making the deal happen... or not

 

[MobileBlade]

He'll be the next Sunderland manager when Johnson goes in a few weeks.

Hopefully Johnson can buy himself a few more weeks tonight.

 

[PaulHalfway]

We have a load of crap players he purchased that he can take on loan

 

[knowsnowt]

I've no clue whatsoever about these "behind the scenes" issues, nor do I want to have. But if I did, and they were really big issues that aren't being addressed, I'd be raging. Fucking raging.
Other than that I'm not really bothered.

Nice cup of tea.
Smash lot up.
GET TO FUCK.