Well, Looks Like It's Happening...

[Robboblade1889]

Really poor interview today from Wilder. It's like he's given up. You'd almost think he was hungover or something, he sounded tired, grumpy, bit all over the place.

To be honest, if he doesn't want to be here then I'd just let him go this time. He's had a lot of things go against him this season (injuries, transfers) but his management has been poor & he's taken very little accountability for any of our shortcomings.

We seem to be sleepwalking into next season & fans think we'll do a Norwich. No chance.

I wouldn't necessarily sack him, but if I'm his boss & after this shit show he kept coming out with comments like today, likes he's untouchable, I'd probably ask him the question..

Have you actually listened to the interview or just read the soudbites? I am intrigued where you think he as wrong in anything he said. It was an honest interview where he answered every question with a reasonable answer. Are you actually looking for something that isn’t there now?

Football Heaven - Wilder: 'Never been as confused' - BBC Sounds

Sheff Utd boss Chris Wilder on VAR, Aston Villa, Rhian Brewster & Aaron Ramsdale.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Have you actually listened to the interview or just read the soudbites? I am intrigued where you think he as wrong in anything he said. It was an honest interview where he answered every question with a reasonable answer. Are you actually looking for something that isn’t there now?

Football Heaven - Wilder: 'Never been as confused' - BBC Sounds

Sheff Utd boss Chris Wilder on VAR, Aston Villa, Rhian Brewster & Aaron Ramsdale.

www.bbc.co.uk

Presuming that clip doesn't differ to the one the club put up on social media, I watched it this morning.

 

[BlairBlade]

CW does seem to be the type of guy who will not take criticism easily and appears to be very headstrong.
No doubt the board have told him that they do approve of the way he has spent money which has resulted in an unbalanced squad and the resultant league position.
CW obviously went to the board in nov / dec and asked for funds to bolster the squad. At that time it was hoped and expected that we would start to win some matches. unfortunately we did not and subsequently the board made the decision that from a business point of view it was better to spend the money in the summer as our chances of turning it round were minimal. ( basically without whistles, what the Prince said)

CW no doubt has had his say but as we all know you can only spend money once and it is so easy to spend someone else’s.

CW is wrong to air his dirty washing in public, I expected more from him as it does not achieve anything other than generate bad publicity and possibly drive a wedge between him and the board.
He wants overall control; with continued improvement the Prince was prepared to let him have it, the results and progress this season have proven why he should not. Changes ahead where we bring in a DOF ( rip van winkle?) to work with CW or he leaves and someone else comes in. Either way i am sure we will have a management structure change and CW only has himself to blame so he should man up and accept it or walk on by.

And perhaps the unnecessary unpleasantness of driving a wedge between many fans on the basis of the side that Wilder can't do anything wrong and the side where perhaps he is now out of his depth.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Reading between the lines here, Wilder is saying to the board... if we sell the whole lot when we're relegated i walk, so let's talk about the future now.

It's actually quite reassuring... or terrifying... i'm not actually sure... it all depends on what actually happens.

Pretty straight forward really hes calling the club out,wants to stay an d try to get back quickly selling our better players when we need more wont wash with him or with the fans.
The prince says he will be here next season ! Wilder will need to build on what is good about our premiership adventure.
We may lose a player or two as they might get an opportunity ! It's how we respond to that what counts (investing the transfer fee's and more ) Wilder already said they cant stand in the way of a player who wants to go as long as we get the going price and invest thei money in a push to get promotion
Basically in black and white! ! if he walks the fans will know the investment is not there.
I for one beleav the prince will support Wilder in his efforts to get us up.
As I said if he walks we know why.

 

[true99blade]

There’s a lot of assuming on here, basically a lot of those who want Wilder out assuming he’s just kicking his toys out the pram. Other assuming that the prince is to blame. Let’s wait and see shall we. Lots on here seem to think they know what they’re talking about based on very little.

One things for sure is that this sort of interview always brings uncertainty. Doesn’t sound good, but neither did the end of 2017/18.

 

[Houso]

fans think we'll do a Norwich. No chance.

Which fans?
Even so, there's no guarantee that we'll succeed or fail next season. So much water to go under the bridge before we make predictions either way.

 

[Belvedere Blade]

Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder says he wants to remain in charge but that talks about his future "are not happening".
The Blades are bottom of the Premier League, 15 points from safety with 12 matches remaining.
The 53-year-old, whose has more than three years remaining on his contract, said he "definitely" wants to stay.
Asked if he will be at United next season, Wilder said: "I don't know. I've not had those conversations."
BBC Sport

 

[William]

To be honest, the longer it goes on and the more there's this negativity that keeps lingering the less I care one way or the other. The team obviously don't care about this season, Wilder's obviously given up on trying to salvage any pride. It's got to the stage now where if Chris went I don't think I'd be that bothered. The first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging that it exists and if Chris isn't prepared to acknowledge he's made mistakes then he's not the right man to turn it around I'm afraid.

 

[Killamarshblades]

This is exactly what we want the manager of our club to be like. He’s putting it to the board for what CW thinks is best for the club. He’s not fighting for his own money he’s fighting for the best interests of the club.

Playing devils advocate here but what CW thinks is best for the club, might not necessarily be what is best for the club. This is where I think some of the issues probably lie behind the scenes..CW may possibly wield too much power and say, where as at a lot of other clubs the board employ a sporting director / technical director so what is 'best' for the club is already determined (strategy, approach, player profile) and a coach does that and gets the team to perform. We dont have that and may be in the end game of a long running power battle.

Maybe he's just getting it all off his chest, saying how it is, and hoping for the sack and the bountiful payoff that comes with it

 

[bartman]

Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder says he wants to remain in charge but that talks about his future "are not happening".
The Blades are bottom of the Premier League, 15 points from safety with 12 matches remaining.
The 53-year-old, whose has more than three years remaining on his contract, said he "definitely" wants to stay.
Asked if he will be at United next season, Wilder said: "I don't know. I've not had those conversations."
BBC Sport

Why would Wilder think the board would want conversations with him if he has 3 years left on his contract and the prince has publicly said he wants Wilder to stay. There are no talks about his future to be had and Wilder could have shut down that question immediately . He chose not to.

 

[Scarebus]

if he walks the fans will know the investment is not there.
I for one beleav the prince will support Wilder in his efforts to get us up.
As I said if he walks we know why.

We've only really heard smoke and mirrors from one side. But for most that side will be enough.

I think he's an honest bloke, and I do think in general he has the best intentions for the club, but, we can't deflect from this season. It will forever be a stick used to beat him and I think he's trying to soften the blow.

Bladey bladeness, self preservation or a bit of both.

 

[Bladezz]

Playing devils advocate here but what CW thinks is best for the club, might not necessarily be what is best for the club. This is where I think some of the issues probably lie behind the scenes..CW may possibly wield too much power and say, where as at a lot of other clubs the board employ a sporting director / technical director so what is 'best' for the club is already determined (strategy, approach, player profile) and a coach does that and gets the team to perform. We dont have that and may be in the end game of a long running power battle.

Maybe he's just getting it all off his chest, saying how it is, and hoping for the sack and the bountiful payoff that comes with it

If they have a difference of opinion in the best interests of the club then they are the owners the onus is on them to have a manager that seemingly doesn’t have an elite mentality and they should sack him.

 

[William]

There’s a lot of assuming on here, basically a lot of those who want Wilder out assuming he’s just kicking his toys out the pram. Other assuming that the prince is to blame. Let’s wait and see shall we. Lots on here seem to think they know what they’re talking about based on very little.

One things for sure is that this sort of interview always brings uncertainty. Doesn’t sound good, but neither did the end of 2017/18.

The only things we can be sure of are the amount of points on the board and the amount of money spent on players. Neither of those give Wilder much leverage.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Presuming that clip doesn't differ to the one the club put up on social media, I watched it this morning.

So what is the issue with the interview? I think it’s a good interview he was asked about the differential in finances across the league and bats it away. He is asked about Brewster said it’s his decision and he always does what’s best for the club. He slates VAR then states at the end end it’s been a big learning curve for everyone. All pretty reasonable stuff.

 

[Robboblade1889]

To be honest, the longer it goes on and the more there's this negativity that keeps lingering the less I care one way or the other. The team obviously don't care about this season, Wilder's obviously given up on trying to salvage any pride. It's got to the stage now where if Chris went I don't think I'd be that bothered. The first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging that it exists and if Chris isn't prepared to acknowledge he's made mistakes then he's not the right man to turn it around I'm afraid.

I am like a stuck record about this but have you listened at all to any of his interviews? He has said in numerous occasions he has made mistakes. Most recently the interview before the Liverpool game he said it he also says it was a learning curve for him in today’s interview.
It seems that people are just making things up at the moment to try and justify their argument.

 

[Farnboroughblade]

I continue to support Wilder and it will be sad day for many if he decided to leave. However, what club in the UK, or Europe, or even the bloody world would keep a manager on after such an appalling run, even though there are many reasons well documented why we find ourselves in this position. To be honest I've felt proud of my club and the board for not pulling the trigger on him and who have gone public in stating they want him here no matter what happens for the remainder of the season. Does Chris really grasp the fact that he's lucky to work for such a loyal and appreciated board?

Chris states that nothing has been discussed about the future, but wasn't it only a few weeks ago when PA travelled over to have a face to face meeting with him to discuss many things and some points, which the Prince stated would remain confidential between him and CW? You're not telling me that having such a meeting, nothing was discussed about the future of the club and the way forward? I just cannot believe that.

 

[true99blade]

The only things we can be sure of are the amount of points on the board and the amount of money spent on players. Neither of those give Wilder much leverage.

We’re still also bottom in the Premier League when it comes to the wage budget too. Which is the most telling if you ask me.

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

The Prince seems like a class act, he won't get involved in any mud slinging.

He's delivered on what he's said he would do and been loyal to his failing manager.

Hope Wilder doesn't get the fans on his back with these little digs.

 

[Yogi]

The Prince seems like a class act, he won't get involved in any mud slinging.

He's delivered on what he's said he would do and been loyal to his failing manager.

Hope Wilder doesn't get the fans on his back with these little digs.

Wilder has certainly been more aggressive in his digs and does them more often but the prince has also been at it through people associated with him on Twitter. I wish they’d both knock it off and do it behind closed doors but it doesn’t look like that’s gonna happen.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Chingo]

It’s pretty obvious to me , re the ‘plan’ they have obviously discussed the ‘plan’ of keeping the players wilder wants to stay in the past (they had a meeting in January) i think Wilder is trying to push the prince to confirm that this is still the ‘plan’ , why doesn’t he just call the prince and have it out though instead of all this cryptic crap ?

 

[Chingo]

If the prince does hold said fire sale he will just be KM mk2 then , take Berge , Egan , Baldock and JoC when he’s proven fitness out of the squad and we are just a bang average championship squad !
If the prince has any ambition to get back up he surely knows he can’t do this , hopefully Phipps is not in the loop anymore and they are just his thoughts .

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Chingo]

If the prince does hold said fire sale he will just be KM mk2 then , take Berge , Egan , Baldock and JoC when he’s proven fitness out of the squad and we are just a bang average championship squad !
If the prince has any ambition to get back up he surely knows he can’t do this , hopefully Phipps is not in the loop anymore and they are just his thoughts .

In fact KM did have a go at getting back up but chose Robson to carry it out ... OUCH

 

[Blade.com]

I actually wouldn’t mind Bryan back next year he’s got a mistake in him but his delivery is very good and I think he’s probably a middling championship player right now and who knows he could continue to develop that’s not bad as back up to JOC.

Sorry but keeping someone on "his delivery is good" gets you nowhere. We need better players than that. We cannot rely on returning to the Prem on the back of a squad that give it all and a good set of lads , got us there once ain't going to work twice. Let's keep the bit of quality we have and get rid of any dead wood and ageing players. Whoever is in charge.

 

[Chingo]

It seems that these are just Phipps views and he’s not in the loop now but I agree with him on one point ... Wilder should just call the prince and have it out with him

 

[Yogi]

Sorry but keeping someone on "his delivery is good" gets you nowhere. We need better players than that. We cannot rely on returning to the Prem on the back of a squad that give it all and a good set of lads , got us there once ain't going to work twice. Let's keep the bit of quality we have and get rid of any dead wood and ageing players. Whoever is in charge.

I’m not advocating Bryan being a starter but as a back up/ depth option I wouldn’t mind it based on the likely level of funds available and the pressing needs in other areas. In terms of highlighting his delivery I was just commenting on the element of his game which has most impressed me at this level rather than it being the only thing he contributes.

 

[Harrisblade]

Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder says he wants to remain in charge but that talks about his future "are not happening".
The Blades are bottom of the Premier League, 15 points from safety with 12 matches remaining.
The 53-year-old, whose has more than three years remaining on his contract, said he "definitely" wants to stay.
Asked if he will be at United next season, Wilder said: "I don't know. I've not had those conversations."
BBC Sport

Why would there be talks about Wilder's future if he still has 3 years left on his deal.
AnD saying 'yes' to will he be here next season might sound just a little bit presumptious, especially to a football club owner.

 

[bongleblade]

Can only see 3 or 4 of our squad being offered deals with PL clubs, and the wages we offer will be decent for the Championship. I expect Wilder thinks that if we are to have a real crack at it we need to hang on to all our top players like Berge, Brewster. We can be pretty sure to get fees for Mousse and Lunny if they go.

With a fully fit squad next season and top additions like McB, Burke, Ampodu, Bogle, Berge still with us I'm sure we can put in a strong challenge.

i think itd be unfair for wilder to expect us to hang on to berge, and if his tenure is pinned on that hope, then we could well see him walk in summer

 

[Bladesman]