Shoreham Boys- offensive?

[DifferentClass]

There's a discussion in the GCB thread about whether or not the third stanza of Shoreham Boys is sexist.

So I figured to make a poll and get the matter in its own thread.

Personally, I see it in the same light as much of the other "lad" humour at the football. It's nowhere near singing racist or homophobic chants. Don't like, don't sing.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

you’re right it’s just football banter. I guess some will see it as offensive.

I’ve have heard one woman singing “shag your men & drink your beer” at an away game. Amazing.

 

[BettingBlade]

Nowt more misogynistic than drinking beer. We should throw a cocktail in every now and again as a show of respect to the ladies.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

The fact everyone kinda mumbles the shag your women line always makes me laugh

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

I seem to remember it got an airing on a concourse at an away match a few years ago, and being one of those songs where the first line repeats loudly, sounded great.
It made it's way onto the terraces and stayed there ever since.
A bit old hat now though imo.

 

[Houston_Blade]

This thread will go downhill fast

 

[Houston_Blade]

The fact everyone kinda mumbles the shag your women line always makes me laugh

Most of our fans are either happily married or virgins, so it doesn’t apply to them and they just mumble it and pretend they don’t know what sex is.

 

[Katzenjammer]

Being offended is something that one chooses.

It can be remedied by fucking getting over oneself.

 

[RecordBreakers]

Should only be sang at away games I think, an if anybodys offended then tough shit get over it. My lad when he was around 7-8yrs used to think it was "shake your willy an drink your beer" I just let him sing what ever he wanted

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

I can see arguments for and against it being considered an acceptable thing to sing, but I'd love to see someone construct an argument to say it isn't sexist!

To me it's just another of those generic songs that nearly every club's had a go at and then got bored of. I've no idea where it originated but I shouldn't think there's much of a fight to claim it.

 

[Scarebus]

the gender element should be removed completely. We’re not cavethems, and this is the 21st century.

It’s also clear that a large amount of our fans would shag owt that moves.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Should only be sang at away games I think, an if anybodys offended then tough shit get over it. My lad when he was around 7-8yrs used to think it was "shake your willy an drink your beer" I just let him sing what ever he wanted

That was a song about Neil shipperley

 

[Varkanoid]

Eating peanuts often occurs at the bar when you drink beer ?

"Eat your nuts and drink your beer".

Er maybe not.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

the gender element should be removed completely. We’re not cavethems, and this is the 21st century.

It’s also clear that a large amount of our fans would shag owt that moves.

I’d get up on the crack of dawn

 

[Jimmy23]

I used to sing it..as a younger. Then I got married, got her into football and now she comes to the odd game. I don’t sing it anymore, it’s quite awkward when going with your wife

 

[Antonb]

It’s bloody awful! Should be banned

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Nope. When Shoreham boys are in town, the women rightly choose to shag them instead of the crappy locals. Nothing mysogonistic.
Maybe should include Shoreham women bagging the local talent to be 100% PC.

 

[Davalon]

 

[originaltrueblade]

If people don’t like it don’t like it tough .
Stop moaning and bloody groaning

I’m a pirate so what do I know

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Nothings offensive. It's the person listening who interprets it as. Take cancer jokes. I'm not offended. That's despite having cancer. Ergo, offended equals weak.

 

[Tezza1889]

Shag your women alludes to conquest, the victorious aggressor takes the spoils of war "etc"

It's all well and good until you conquer Rotherham United, and the often conquered women do things to you that would make your eyes water..

 

[Flumps]

the gender element should be removed completely. We’re not cavethems, and this is the 21st century.

It’s also clear that a large amount of our fans would shag owt that moves.

And these days wives aren't even necessarily women. Tbh I think it's a bit gay singing it.

There's people out there that complained about a YouTuber called Mr Beast. He used the revenue from his videos to pay for 1000 blind people to have corrective surgery to restore their sight - and people found a way to complain about it.

The demographic of offended people in reality is very tiny but they've been given the loudest voice in media.

To summarise - piss off and deal with it.

 

[Steelcitysenior]

Think this song sounds a bit weird at home, perhaps some clever change of lyrics needed for home games. Any ideas, some witty people on here. UTB.

 

[Snake]

It's a tongue in cheek tribal thing. Not offensive whatsoever. It's just a partisan chant for the Shoreham Boys.

I suppose though, to bring it more up to date we could chant....................

Shoreham Boys we are here.............. shag your women or men if you're queer oh oh oh oh.

Would that pass the PC test

Or, to dot the I's and cross every T; Id go with.............

Shoreham Boys/Girls/Them/It/Rathernotsay we are here,

Say hiyer to your women/girls/ladies/men/boys/males/neither/dontyetknow and drink your finest mineral water

 

[Birdwell Blade]

Should only be sang at away games I think, an if anybodys offended then tough shit get over it. My lad when he was around 7-8yrs used to think it was "shake your willy an drink your beer" I just let him sing what ever he wanted

Haha that’s funny. Can’t stop chuckling to myself.

 

[Birdwell Blade]

On the subject of football singing, watching the Dingle Derby the other night I could hear the “shit on the bastards below” song being sung. I always thought it was just us that sang this?

If I had the wings of a sparrow
The dirty black arse of a crow
I’d fly over Hillsborough tomorrow
And shit on the bastards below….below…
Shit on… and so on

Must be more widespread than I thought

 

[Cheets]

Most of our fans are either happily married or virgins, so it doesn’t apply to them and they just mumble it and pretend they don’t know what sex is.

Or both.

 

[Scarebus]

Maybe we could desexualise and degenderise it and just threaten to kidney punch their children instead.

 

[ThatJa]

You wait till we have to sing "Shag your partner and drink your beer" or the club gets fined..........

 

[gordoncharles]

On the subject of football singing, watching the Dingle Derby the other night I could hear the “shit on the bastards below” song being sung. I always thought it was just us that sang this?

If I had the wings of a sparrow
The dirty black arse of a crow
I’d fly over Hillsborough tomorrow
And shit on the bastards below….below…
Shit on… and so on

Must be more widespread than I thought

To be fair Birdwell Blade that refrain was sung at every club in the late 60s-early 70s, just like the "Shoreham Boys" one, which is a relic of the 70s that really should have been left behind by now

In fact, all football song/chant repertoires are like a show performed in the current day by a shite 60s band at a sleazy nightsport. They've got the small repertoire and they've been hawking it around for 50 years.

There's the occasional addition, which quickly becomes as irritating as the old standards, Tom Hark, My Garden Shed, and (worst of all) that one sung to the tune of Sloop John B which has ruined that number for ever for me, but the playlist is pretty barren.

And yes, I'm no fun at parties.