David McGoldrick

[tincan]

 

[Nade]

Not sure wtf he's talking about tbh

 

[Frank the tank]

Not sure wtf he's talking about tbh

He's spot on
Premier league payers are like chess pieces now
It's all about the coaches now and the '' plan ''

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

He's right doe. It's clinical football, based on formulae, to optimise results, maximise league positions and secure future business funding. Yawn.



Where's your Morten Gamst Pedersens, Jay-Jay Okochas, Wilf Zahas, Bergkamps, Cantonas, Zolas, etc. Football should be a joy to watch. Even the more inventive of players (e.g. Grealish) are having that dynamism coached out of them by systems.

 

[borg elite]

Not sure wtf he's talking about tbh

Really? I think a lot of football watchers have lamented the lack of maverick footballers nowadays. There's so much emphasis on keeping possession at all costs that that breed of footballer is either no longer around or they've had to reign it in so they can get a game. You don't see many old fashioned wingers nowadays for example. It's also borne out in stats. One interesting one is shots from distance are at an all time low.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

Really? I think a lot of football watchers have lamented the lack of maverick footballers nowadays. There's so much emphasis on keeping possession at all costs that that breed of footballer is either no longer around or they've had to reign it in so they can get a game. You don't see many old fashioned wingers nowadays for example. It's also borne out in stats. One interesting one is shots from distance are at an all time low.

Couldn’t agree more. Football today seems sterile in comparison to a few years ago. Everything today is done for the benefit of ‘the team’ and there aren’t any real stand out players that really want to get you watching. The shots from distance is an interesting stat - look at the goals of the season from the 06 / 07 premier league season. Drogba bagged 2 that I reckon would have won every ‘goal of the season’ for the last 10 years. It just doesn’t seem to happen anymore and it’s such a shame.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

He's right doe. It's clinical football, based on formulae, to optimise results, maximise league positions and secure future business funding. Yawn.



Where's your Morten Gamst Pedersens, Jay-Jay Okochas, Wilf Zahas, Bergkamps, Cantonas, Zolas, etc. Football should be a joy to watch. Even the more inventive of players (e.g. Grealish) are having that dynamism coached out of them by systems.

I was always a maverick on the walking football field. What I produced was more of a cross country skiing glide than a walk and whilst still having time to blow TC type kisses to any passers by on the riverbank walk.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Yeah he basically sums up my feelings about what football is these days. It’s more science than sport.

 

[Gimli]

I like that he bemoans the lack of mavericks in the game because he definitely is one (even though he says he wasn’t for us) and was an absolutely joy to watch.

 

[nopigfansintown]

He's right doe. It's clinical football, based on formulae, to optimise results, maximise league positions and secure future business funding. Yawn.



Where's your Morten Gamst Pedersens, Jay-Jay Okochas, Wilf Zahas, Bergkamps, Cantonas, Zolas, etc. Football should be a joy to watch. Even the more inventive of players (e.g. Grealish) are having that dynamism coached out of them by systems.

Cole Palmer is a classic example

 

[Thrice]

I guess we can thank Guardiola for that. His success has spawned an entire generation of micromanaging, ball possession obsessed managers. Most of them also have the personality of a brick and their teams reflect that.

 

[Weasel]

I guess we can thank Guardiola for that. His success has spawned an entire generation of micromanaging, ball possession obsessed managers. Most of them also have the personality of a brick and their teams reflect that.

A classic example of this type of sterile, stats obsessed, looking at my iPad during games, boring as feck manager who probably eats a single Ryvita and low fat cottage cheese for a weekend treat.... I give you the pigs current managerial incumbent.

The fact that SR is what he is with his data driven focus on games whilst be a trendy young thing with lots of hair, makes him bit of a culture carrier for the new style manager who is what the establishment want to see. No real ground breaking ideas (in fact what I've seen of Wednesday is just agricultural football with a team of big Orcs panting for them.and them banging it long to the likes of Michael Smith, Windass or Ugbo), yet he and his type seem to be lauded as some great football managerial mind. He's got a mid table budget, they are mid table...

Can you imagine a Dave Bassett, or a young Neil Warnock being in charge of a Premier League team today and not having the likes of Danny Murphy, Gary Lineker etc, not turning up their noses and sneering? Today's managers bring in the type of players that reflect them, hence no mavericks and all very boring and predictable to watch. Today's teams would probably win the game if they played against their counterparts from the 70s, 80s or 90s, but I know which type of team I'd rather watch as a fan and which would give much better entertainment. As others have said, football today is sanitised and usually boring. Glad I'm old enough to have enjoyed the proper stuff and the likes of Dave Bassett being in charge of our team.

As for CW, I think he's a product of the old and the new and whilst his leanings are towards the old ways and having players in a team who can do something different, I thinks he's learnt over the years that you have to aligned to the current ways or you lose. Remember McGoldrick himself says he was allowed to play with freedom. Not many PL managers would allow that. Probably why some in the game think CW is a bit of a dinosaur. In truth, they don't like him as he has a personality, and they are bland and boring. Boring Southgate being the FAs pin up boy for nearly a decade.

 

[Nade]

Really? I think a lot of football watchers have lamented the lack of maverick footballers nowadays. There's so much emphasis on keeping possession at all costs that that breed of footballer is either no longer around or they've had to reign it in so they can get a game. You don't see many old fashioned wingers nowadays for example. It's also borne out in stats. One interesting one is shots from distance are at an all time low.

I often play with these 'mavericks' and they do my head in, trying to take people on and losing the ball or doing Hollywood passes when there's an easy pass on

The lad they're passing to can hardly kick a ball at the best of times. No chance he's going to be able to control a ball punted 30 yards. The ball is going out for a throw in and these lads needs a reality check

Just sounds like old people harkening back to the good old days to me, I'm surprised Didzy is doing it relatively young although he might not have a platform for doing it once he's retired so needs to get in early

 

[Proper Blade]

There are more goals scored at the top level now than at any point since the 1950s. You would think it'd be way more entertaining that way - but it's really not. Teams are just far more clinical and effective than ever before. They take very few risks and only take a shot when the xG of the chance surpasses 0.25 or some bollocks. Throw in the fact that VAR gives penalties for pretty much anything, and there's your extra goal a game.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

When a management team can sit down and look at a computer generated programme of every player’s movements, they can also sit down and fill his head with utter shite about what he’s doing “wrong”……

 

[bornablade]

There are more goals scored at the top level now than at any point since the 1950s. You would think it'd be way more entertaining that way - but it's really not. Teams are just far more clinical and effective than ever before. They take very few risks and only take a shot when the xG of the chance surpasses 0.25 or some bollocks. Throw in the fact that VAR gives penalties for pretty much anything, and there's your extra goal a game.

Add in the fact defenders are walking on egg shells. If they go anywhere near an opponent then that player falls over and a free kick is given.

The slide tackle has been outlawed. There's no longer an argument for 'he got the ball first' - it's seen as dangerous play and out comes a card.

 

[joe casey]

I often play with these 'mavericks' and they do my head in, trying to take people on and losing the ball or doing Hollywood passes when there's an easy pass on

The lad they're passing to can hardly kick a ball at the best of times. No chance he's going to be able to control a ball punted 30 yards. The ball is going out for a throw in and these lads needs a reality check

Just sounds like old people harkening back to the good old days to me, I'm surprised Didzy is doing it relatively young although he might not have a platform for doing it once he's retired so needs to get in early

Assume you hated every second of Ndiaye in our team then

 

[Houston_Blade]

Have you ever tried watching a League 2 game as a neutral?! I get the sentiment of what he’s saying but my goodness some of shite football played in the EFL is much worse than watching these highly paid robots.

Football has changed and evolved, some things for the better and a lot for the worse. However I’d challenge anyone who thinks just shelling a ball forwards instead of passing the ball to tell me how so. It wasn’t as good as we all remember but people like to convince themselves it was.

 

[KiwiBlabe]

I often play with these 'mavericks' and they do my head in, trying to take people on and losing the ball or doing Hollywood passes when there's an easy pass on

The lad they're passing to can hardly kick a ball at the best of times. No chance he's going to be able to control a ball punted 30 yards. The ball is going out for a throw in and these lads needs a reality check

Just sounds like old people harkening back to the good old days to me, I'm surprised Didzy is doing it relatively young although he might not have a platform for doing it once he's retired so needs to get in early

They are obviously not mavericks, just pricks. I always say the best footballers do the simple things well at the right time.

I agree, I'm an old man harking back........to when it was better, haha

 

[blade67]

It's also borne out in stats. One interesting one is shots from distance are at an all time low.

Good point. I wonder if there is a rule change to change that.

The back pass rule was a great change to speed the game up. I'm not sure what they could tweak to make gambling with a long range shot or an early cross to make that a bigger part of the game

 

[Gin&Juice]

Imagine a world where Michael Brown would pass to the wing or take a touch as statistically it is 0.7% more likely to lead to a goal.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

We're guilty of being robotic this season. We play to a system where all decisions have been made for the players and very few play with instinct. Hence why we often resemble Southgate's England by "keeping possession" and passing backwards when we're supposed to be attacking.

I can't remember which match it was earlier this year, but McCallum had come on for Burrows and was deep into the opponents half when he received the ball. He faced the right back and instead of trying to take him on, he turned around and sent a long pass deep into our own half to a centre back. It was pathetic and frustrating to watch and killed our attack. I'd rather have someone like Hamer try to make something happen than players who just do what they're told and play safety first and kill our own attacks to "keep possession."

This is why academy kids are often exciting to watch when they first come into the team, because they haven't been programmed into mindless drones yet.

System football is killing the entertainment for fans.

 

[Need4speed]

I like a manager that is animated on the touch line but now some are almost telling players what to do all the time. I get that managers might want to change tactics or formation through a game but managers directing players what to do minute by minute. No flair, no individuality, they become brain dead robots. I always had the feeling that Walker at Man City use to do the opposite of what Pep wanted, Pep didn't like that but ultimately it was such a benefit to City. No coincidence that the wheels have come off since he left.

 

[joe casey]

Imagine a world where Michael Brown would pass to the wing or take a touch as statistically it is 0.7% more likely to lead to a goal.

I mean you laugh but that's essentially what happened once he moved to the prem

 

[raimond]

Have you ever tried watching a League 2 game as a neutral?! I get the sentiment of what he’s saying but my goodness some of shite football played in the EFL is much worse than watching these highly paid robots.

Genuinely, I'd say the 2 most exciting matches I've seen live this season have been in League 2.

Not because I hark for the days of 'gerrit forrud' but really good football played and noticeably more positive, taking men on, getting crosses in, played at pace rather than obsessed with possession, continually switching play looking for the gap, turning down shooting or crossing opportunities to 'recycle' whilst the other team parks the bus. It's risk averse and dull.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Genuinely, I'd say the 2 most exciting matches I've seen live this season have been in League 2.

Not because I hark for the days of 'gerrit forrud' but really good football played and noticeably more positive, taking men on, getting crosses in, played at pace rather than obsessed with possession, continually switching play looking for the gap, turning down shooting or crossing opportunities to 'recycle' whilst the other team parks the bus. It's risk averse and dull.

You can’t have had the misfortune of watching a Chesterfield game then, absolute drivel.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Genuinely, I'd say the 2 most exciting matches I've seen live this season have been in League 2.

Not because I hark for the days of 'gerrit forrud' but really good football played and noticeably more positive, taking men on, getting crosses in, played at pace rather than obsessed with possession, continually switching play looking for the gap, turning down shooting or crossing opportunities to 'recycle' whilst the other team parks the bus. It's risk averse and dull.

It's why Alex Ferguson was such a good manager and won his last title with arguably the weakest team he ever had. He let the players play to their strengths. At their peak Man Utd had Giggs running at players, Beckham would put in endless crosses, Scholes could pick out unreal passes and shoot, Keane would put tackles in left right and centre. He never asked them to be anything that they weren't. He built a system around the players.

Look at Man Utd now. They have manager who stubbornly sticks to a system that he doesn't have the players for. Square pegs in round holes and they're awful because if it. Van Nistelrooy picked a system that suited what they had and they resembled a team and won games again.

This is why I don't believe we've seen the best of Rak-Sakyi, because he's being held back from doing what he does best because his decisions are made for him through over coaching.

 

[Tarqs]

Stats have become the issue like he said...

Shots from 30 yards have a 00.05 XG - don't shoot from distance.
Goals from crosses have a 0.07% conversion rate... don't cross the ball

Goals inside 6 yard box have high conversion rate = walk the ball into the goal football.

It's all shite and boring.

Don't get me started on the low block vs possession based games that dominate the premier league these days, absolute guff.

Best league in the world my arse.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Stats have become the issue like he said...

Shots from 30 yards have a 00.05 XG - don't shoot from distance.
Goals from crosses have a 0.07% conversion rate... don't cross the ball

Goals inside 6 yard box have high conversion rate = walk the ball into the goal football.

It's all shite and boring.

Don't get me started on the low block vs possession based games that dominate the premier league these days, absolute guff.

Best league in the world my arse.

Imagine a world where Neil Warnock is manager and Chris Morgan is wearing his tracking sports bra!!!

 

[PeterNdlovu081]