Statistics Card watch - play nice or you're suspended son

[billyblademan]

Updated:

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Ryan's cards per 90

What did One get booked for?

 

[Cappy]

What did One get booked for?

It was after the winner, so I guess celebration/delaying restart related

 

[Cappy]

Updated following pigs game





Source

 

[Cappy]

These stats sites drive me mad. Just noticed One isn't on this list. He has 1 yellow, FYI. Will find (yet) another source next time

 

[Big.Dane.w]

That Vini Costa needs to be careful

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Coventry game (game 16). Table shows only yellows, so doesn't reflect Anel's red.




Oné still missing from the table, but he has 1 yellow
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19 games
After 19 games, players who have five yellow cards will not be suspended for a game.

37 games
After 37 games, players who have not received their tenth yellow cardwill not be banned if they do receive one.

46 games
If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for three games.
If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Oxford United (H)

Nobody can now pick up a yellow card suspension before game 20, where it changes to 10 cards, from 5.





Oné still missing from the table, but he has 1 yellow
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19 games
After 19 games, players who have five yellow cards will not be suspended for a game.

37 games
After 37 games, players who have not received their tenth yellow cardwill not be banned if they do receive one.

46 games
If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for three games.
If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

 

[Cappy]

Whilst at the game yesterday, with Souttar’s 2 yellows, it got me wondering…

I believe the EFL rule is that the first yellow you received in a game is added to your yellow cards total, but if you get a second yellow, it doesn’t count, but of course the red leads to a suspension

With Souttar’s case, he was on 2 total yellows for the season, going into the game yesterday. His first yellow added to his total, but the second didn’t. So now he is on a total of 3 yellows for the season, with one red. Fine

However….I was wondering… what if a player went into a game on 4 yellows? Would their first yellow take them to a total of 5, leading to a one game suspension, and the second yellow leading to a red card, and an additional game suspension?

I can’t recall this happening, but it must have at some point, so I’m not sure if my understanding of the regs is right. Anyone?

P.S I will update the table tomorrow.

Up The Yellow Card Blades

 

[MayorOJC]

Whilst at the game yesterday, with Souttar’s 2 yellows, it got me wondering…

I believe the EFL rule is that the first yellow you received in a game is added to your yellow cards total, but if you get a second yellow, it doesn’t count, but of course the red leads to a suspension

With Souttar’s case, he was on 2 total yellows for the season, going into the game yesterday. His first yellow added to his total, but the second didn’t. So now he is on a total of 3 yellows for the season, with one red. Fine

However….I was wondering… what if a player went into a game on 4 yellows? Would their first yellow take them to a total of 5, leading to a one game suspension, and the second yellow leading to a red card, and an additional game suspension?

I can’t recall this happening, but it must have at some point, so I’m not sure if my understanding of the regs is right. Anyone?

P.S I will update the table tomorrow.

Up The Yellow Card Blades

Would still be a one-game ban. FA doesn't "double punish" with suspensions.

 

[loyalblade95]

However….I was wondering… what if a player went into a game on 4 yellows? Would their first yellow take them to a total of 5, leading to a one game suspension, and the second yellow leading to a red card, and an additional game suspension?

I think it does yes, I don't think it happens too often but it would result in 2 match ban, 1 for the second yellow/red card and 1 for the accumulation of 5 yellow cards.

Might be wrong here but, each time you receive a second yellow sending off during a single season, doesn't that add an additional game to your match ban?

For example, 1st second yellow sending off = 1 match ban, 2nd second yellow sending off = 2 match ban etc.

 

[loyalblade95]

Seem to recall Wes having a 2 match ban for a professional foul red card (against Burnley) in 22/23 season, which was his second red card that season, hence why it was a 2 match ban (Bristol City and Cardiff) rather than a 1 match ban.

 

[Cappy]

Would still be a one-game ban. FA doesn't "double punish" with suspensions.

You sure? That would mean there is no punishment for the second yellow (red) beyond going down to 10 men for the remainder of that one game

 

[Keen Blade]

These updates are very useful, thanks

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Game 18 - Sunderland (H).

Nobody can now pick up a yellow card suspension before game 20, where it changes to 10 cards, from 5.



Source

Ryan Oné is still missing from the table, but he has 2 yellows

• 19 games
  • After 19 games, players who have five yellow cards will not be suspended for a game.
• 37 games
  • After 37 games, players who have not received their tenth yellow card will not be banned if they do receive one.
• 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for three games.
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Updated following Game 18 - Sunderland (H).

Nobody can now pick up a yellow card suspension before game 20, where it changes to 10 cards, from 5.

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Ryan Oné is still missing from the table, but he has 2 yellows

• 19 games
  • After 19 games, players who have five yellow cards will not be suspended for a game.
• 37 games
  • After 37 games, players who have not received their tenth yellow card will not be banned if they do receive one.
• 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for three games.
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Surprised Peck has 2 yellows

 

[Keen Blade]

Looks like Souza , Hamer , Anel & Souttar will get their tenth card before game 37.
Does that bring a 2- match ban ?
Need to ensure they're not all banned at the same time !

 

[Silent Blade]

Looks like Souza , Hamer , Anel & Souttar will get their tenth card before game 37.
Does that bring a 2- match ban ?

Yes

 

[MayorOJC]

You sure? That would mean there is no punishment for the second yellow (red) beyond going down to 10 men for the remainder of that one game

Player on 4 yellows gets 2 yellows in a game, it’s a one game ban (for the red) with them back on 4 yellows at the end. Happened to Bissouma last season.

 

[Cappy]

Player on 4 yellows gets 2 yellows in a game, it’s a one game ban (for the red) with them back on 4 yellows at the end. Happened to Bissouma last season.

Understood. That's how it is in the A-League too, from memory, but Souttar was on 2 yellows prior to Friday, but ended on 3

 

[billyblademan]

Cappy Had a 3am thought last night - you should introduce manager yellow cards to this. Wilder got his second booking of the season I believe on Friday night, and I think one more gives him a touchline ban!

 

[Cappy]

Cappy Had a 3am thought last night - you should introduce manager yellow cards to this. Wilder got his second booking of the season I believe on Friday night, and I think one more gives him a touchline ban!

Shit, you should have rang me straight away

I will update now. Good idea. I shall find some facts out about suspensions etc

 

[Keen Blade]

Question ,
Apparently RND sent off in U21 game this afternoon.
Does this result in any kind of ban and if so , does it count for WBA this Sunday ?

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Game 18 - Sunderland (H).
Also now includes manager yellows, as requested by billyblademan

Nobody can now pick up a yellow card suspension before game 20, where the suspension threshold changes to 10 cards, from 5.

Players:


Source

Ryan Oné is still missing from the table, but he has 2 yellows

• Up to and including 19 games
  • Players who receive five yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
• Up to and including 38 games
  • Players who receive ten yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive three yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive eight yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives twenty yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

 

[Cappy]

Question ,
Apparently RND sent off in U21 game this afternoon.
Does this result in any kind of ban and if so , does it count for WBA this Sunday ?

no

 

[ThatJa]

Updated following Game 18 - Sunderland (H).
Also now includes manager yellows, as requested by billyblademan

Nobody can now pick up a yellow card suspension before game 20, where the suspension threshold changes to 10 cards, from 5.

Players:
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Ryan Oné is still missing from the table, but he has 2 yellows

• Up to and including 19 games
  • Players who receive five yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
• Up to and including 38 games
  • Players who receive ten yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:
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• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive three yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive eight yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives twenty yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

20 yellows for a manager in a season would take some doing.

Wonder if its ever been done

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Game 19 - WBA (A)

Suspension limit now changes to 10 yellows up to and including game 38

Players:


Source

Ryan Oné is still missing from the table, but he has 2 yellows

• Up to and including 38 games
  • Players who receive ten yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive three yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive eight yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives twenty yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

 

[Selly]

Updated following Game 19 - WBA (A)

Suspension limit now changes to 10 yellows up to and including game 38

Players:
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View attachment 198990
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Ryan Oné is still missing from the table, but he has 2 yellows

• Up to and including 38 games
  • Players who receive ten yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:
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• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive three yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive eight yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives twenty yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Are they still suspended for 2 games even if they haven`t already served a suspension? Or is it that if you served a suspension for reaching 5 then you get a 2 game ban, but otherwise its a 1 game ban?

 

[Cappy]

Are they still suspended for 2 games even if they haven`t already served a suspension? Or is it that if you served a suspension for reaching 5 then you get a 2 game ban, but otherwise its a 1 game ban?

I believe it's two, regardless of any prior suspension. I got the info from the FA's 'player essentials' pack, which can be downloaded from here:

Essential Information For Players 2023-24

The FA has created some helpful guidance to address all the essentials that a player will need to be aware of during the 2023-24 Season.

www.thefa.com

The relevant bit:


Re-reading it, I've noticed my cut off should read 37 games, not 38, for ten yellows

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Game 20 - Millwall (A)

Players:


Source

Ryan Oné is still missing from the table, but he has 2 yellows

• Up to and including 37 games
  • Players who receive ten yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:
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• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive three yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive eight yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives twenty yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

 

[100% part time blade]

At this rate, Souza and Ahmedhodzic will be hitting their next suspension at exactly the week when we next play Leeds. Gus will have already served a suspension by then (probably in January) at the rate he’s going …