CONFIRMED And so ends... Ched Evans signs for Fleetwood Town permanently

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BushBlade said:
Of all his stupid decisions, given that it has had no detriment whatsoever to our success, it’s the one I’m least bothered about.
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The lack of any detriment really doesn't count to the anti-KMs.

The agenda is all on this one and we all know Wilder lied........
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Another one of McCabes stupid decisions to resign him.
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In hindsight yes.....but no one can read the future.
But this was an educated sensible relatively low cost gamble by Wilder and made sense at the time.

It’s very similar to the Ravel Morrison gamble. Most people in the game think he’s finished at PL level, they won’t go near him with a barge pole.
I can imagine if Ravel starts well.....we all get excited....then he starts taking liberties again and finds himself out of the team and ends up leaving early.
You can bet there will be posters saying it was another stupid Wilder/ McCabe/ Prince decision.

The important factor as already kind of mentioned by Bush is that Wilder had no big expectation regards Ched, it was like buying a £1 lottery ticket at a newsagent, we had plenty of other attacking options just in case the Ched experiment failed, which it did.

I see Ravel in a similar light, give him a chance but we have plenty of other midfield options just in case the Ravel experiment fails.
But if the Ravel experiment works then we have a massive talent, far better than David Brooks on our hands.
 
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As above it was worth the gamble IMO, cheap and some players for whatever reason just have that plays well for particular club if not every club

People I think were a bit to quick at the time to dismiss his previous championship stint with us which I can see why but he showed in that year that ended badly for both him and us that he can finish etc

Not saying it wasn’t a gamble but for the price I don’t think it was that much risk thinking he couldn’t have made the step back up to championship

Not as a starter above Billy or Diddsy of course but as a bench option
 
Sheffsteel said:
It’s very similar to the Ravel Morrison gamble.
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Yes, if we’d have handed him a 1 year deal with incentives, rather than a 3-year deal. Let’s also remember that McGoldrick and Morrison has to prove they were up to it in a trial first too before being handed their 1-year deals too. They had to earn them. To hand Evans a 3-year deal off what had been a mediocre first year back in football was very bizarre, wholly unnecessary, and predictably poor business as most pointed out at the time.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
Yes, if we’d have handed him a 1 year deal with incentives, rather than a 3-year deal. Let’s also remember that McGoldrick and Morrison has to prove they were up to it in a trial first too before being handed their 1-year deals too. They had to earn them. To hand Evans a 3-year deal off what had been a mediocre first year back in football was very bizarre, wholly unnecessary, and predictably poor business as most pointed out at the time.
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I think there were other reasons for why Evans was given the contract he was, beyond motivation related ones. It is widely rumoured the threat of legal action for unfair dismissal/loss of earnings was negated.
 
Some people prefer to view everything about Ched in a polarised way.

I don't.

I thought it seemed a relatively low risk cheapish gamble to bring him back and hoped he'd do well. I don't, however, and never have subscribed to the reasons why some vehemently believe he came back (it was all CW's idea). Pathetic digs like 'so you're calling Wilder a liar then' don't change that, especially when I don't blame Wilder in any way shape or form.

Ched wasn't good enough for us last season, so certainly isn't now.

Whilst I feel genuinely sorry for him for what he has had to endure, he's nowhere near earned the money he's had from us over 6 years or more.

It's time Sheffield United and Ched Evans were no longer linked.
 
Mouth of the South said:
I think there were other reasons for why Evans was given the contract he was, beyond motivation related ones. It is widely rumoured the threat of legal action for unfair dismissal/loss of earnings was negated.
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How was that when he was in his last year of his contract and it was ran down in prison. We could hardly give him a new contract when he was banged up.
 



Ranmoorblade said:
How was that when he was in his last year of his contract and it was ran down in prison. We could hardly give him a new contract when he was banged up.
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Agreed. It ran out on 30th June 2012. I do think it was very strange when we signed him back,Wilder did give him a chance but he was nowhere near up to it. Give him a free transfer & let him go back to Fleetwood,they seem to like him there.
 
Mouth of the South said:
I think there were other reasons for why Evans was given the contract he was, beyond motivation related ones. It is widely rumoured the threat of legal action for unfair dismissal/loss of earnings was negated.
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Unfair dismissal? Didn’t we let his contract run even when he was convicted? That’s a bloody joke that if true! Jeez.

I’ll be happy to see the back of this whole saga to be honest. We onto much bigger, better things now!
 
I don’t blame either Wilder or Kev for thinking Ched might be able to reproduce what he did before getting sent down

I have no idea who brought him back or why, even if it was some form of payoff or not or favour it’s not like we were bringing back another Higdon or Salmon

It’s obvious IMO to all that it didn’t work out and maybe it was never going to but if it was me I would do it time and time again if it was a Groundhog Day situation
 
ElephantBlade said:
Unfair dismissal? Didn’t we let his contract run even when he was convicted? That’s a bloody joke that if true! Jeez.

I’ll be happy to see the back of this whole saga to be honest. We onto much bigger, better things now!
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If I recall the scurrilous gossip correctly, I think it had to do with withdrawing any offer to play with us when he was out on licence (but still convicted) rather than anything the club did at the time of his conviction. As you say, his contract ran out.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
Yes, if we’d have handed him a 1 year deal with incentives, rather than a 3-year deal. Let’s also remember that McGoldrick and Morrison has to prove they were up to it in a trial first too before being handed their 1-year deals too. They had to earn them. To hand Evans a 3-year deal off what had been a mediocre first year back in football was very bizarre, wholly unnecessary, and predictably poor business as most pointed out at the time.
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Maybe Wilder learnt from his mistake and been more shrewd since.
No manager gets em all right.
 
Evans wasn't unfairly dismissed IMS his contract ran out and we chose not to renew it, I liked Evans but at the end of the day it was him being a silly boy that put him in the position he found himself in. He should have steered well clear that night but he was silly, he's learnt from it and seen how HE ballsed up his career NOT United. What folk don't realise is had he not gone down and, we'd have gone up he'd have been sold; as in days of old all our family jewels were. He was miles better than the donkey now at S6 who was at Huddersfield, let him go and let him play out the twilight of his career and get some kudos back.
 
I supported him all the way through and really wanted him to do well but please Ched..... can you fuck off now?

Same goes for the rest of them clinging on to their contracts resisting every opportunity to move.

Jake Wright can stay if he wants though, for his absolute good blokery and mentoring qualities.
 
He's going to be hard to shift. Found not guilty or not people are still uneasy. Since his conviction the whole #metoo stuff took off and anyone even accused of something that doesn't even progress to court has their career ruined.
 
Berkshire Blade said:
He's going to be hard to shift. Found not guilty or not people are still uneasy. Since his conviction the whole #metoo stuff took off and anyone even accused of something that doesn't even progress to court has their career ruined.
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I don't think so. No one batted an eyelid when he went on loan to Fleetwood.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Another one of McCabes stupid decisions to resign him.
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Don't you read this forum?

At least half the board thought he was going to be the reincarnation of the Messiah.

I wasn't one of them, I wouldn't have touched him with a barge pole, but we even have a member called COME BACK CHED

Of course with the benefit of hindsight they all knew that it would never work out.
 
Dkc said:
I don't think so. No one batted an eyelid when he went on loan to Fleetwood.
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And yet when Oxford were considering a deal this summer they said they would consult their fans, and a deal has since not materialised. There’s less of an issue than their was, but I wouldn’t have said it was completely without any issue.

Fleetwood by all accounts would take him back given the opportunity for what it’s worth.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
And yet when Oxford were considering a deal this summer they said they would consult their fans, and a deal has since not materialised. There’s less of an issue than their was, but I wouldn’t have said it was completely without any issue.

Fleetwood by all accounts would take him back given the opportunity for what it’s worth.
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Half the Fleetwood fans have done much worse than Ched LoughboroBlade that's the difference :D
 
bypassblade said:
Evans wasn't unfairly dismissed IMS his contract ran out and we chose not to renew it, I liked Evans but at the end of the day it was him being a silly boy that put him in the position he found himself in. He should have steered well clear that night but he was silly, he's learnt from it and seen how HE ballsed up his career NOT United. What folk don't realise is had he not gone down and, we'd have gone up he'd have been sold; as in days of old all our family jewels were. He was miles better than the donkey now at S6 who was at Huddersfield, let him go and let him play out the twilight of his career and get some kudos back.
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If he hadn't the impending trial hanging over him there's a good chance he would have been sold during the January transfer window. At least one club consulted their lawyers before choosing not to put a bid in.
 
I recall how the supporters were split on this at the time of the alleged offence. Pages and pages of comment on a previous forum.
Not good for him or the club.
Whatever the legalities of it, he was the instigator of his downfall.
It now turns out that he had reached the peak of his performance in division 1.
He might find another club, or not. His contract will run out, or be paid up and he will be gone.
Like him or not, he is highly unlikely to play first team football for the blades ever again. I cannot pretend to be saddened by this.
 



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