Sheffield United vs Leeds United

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Sheffield United SUFC 1 - 3
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Half Time: 1 - 0
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Half Time: 1 - 0
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EFL Championship Matchweek 34 - Monday 24th February 2025 - 20:00 - Bramall Lane
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I thought we played really well.
A positive setup by Wilder and it was good to see us go after them.

In the end, the best team won.
Leeds are relentless and grew into it as the game went on.
After their equaliser it started to feel a bit inevitable (as it did when they played Sunderland recently).

In the first half, Solomon had all the joy down our right.
In the second half, it was the combination of Bogle & James.
We didn't defend the wings well enough and that was our undoing.

Wilder might look back with some regrets on the subs (Hamer wasn't fit)... I was calling for us to move to a back 3 as we began to tire...

However, we gave a really good account of ourselves.
Souza was superb in the middle of the park. BBD and Campbell were great at the top of the pitch and I thought Anel had a really strong game.

If we can play like that for the rest of the season then we'll probably go up.
That would have been enough to beat anybody else in the league tonight.
Morgan agree totally about the wings. They had so much room and attacked at will. JRS and BBD offered no protection to 2 full backs who arent good defensively. Whoever was responsible for identifying Clarke wants shooting and Burrows has been off it for a while now.
 
I’m sure Wilder and Knill shake a magic eight ball and decide who take off and put on in their place. Baffling is an under statement. He really is starting to get on my tits with his tactical ineptness. Cacking himself in the big games. Do we really want to go up with him in charge?
 
I’m sure Wilder and Knill shake a magic eight ball and decide who take off and put on in their place. Baffling is an under statement. He really is starting to get on my tits with his tactical ineptness. Cacking himself in the big games. Do we really want to go up with him in charge?
What do you mean? He's the messiah, the best to ever do it. An absolute marvel on the touchline.
 
And we are in second place and having a blinding season.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
And we have to play the team 2 points behind us. So that record is very relevant to the situation. God forbid I point out a fact.
 
THAT. It highlights the performance is dictated by a negative imbecile manager.
FOUR MISTAKES tonight
Biggest OHare is a useless lightweight
**** the back heels
Its football not the circus.
Clarke is mediocre and FAR WORSE than Gilchrist defensively
Best finisher BBD wasted deep on the wing.
Best attacker Jesus wasted nobbled on the WRONG wing.
Wilder OUT if you want #sufc to succeeed even wilh ALL the money in the world.
look at his **** signings.
Been a disatastrous evening for me and that 'team' capped it.
Internet crashed, could not get 4th computer reactivated so went to shop.
Said it before and will say it again.
You should pay for me to not watch.
Got back still winning 1-0
God knows how what I've seen.
DISASTROUS mistake 5
The total parasite player Chroudry on at full back.
PARASITE you say?
Yes - does F ALL and gives players the ball in dangerous positions dropping them in the shit to try and hide his total lack of ability.
Tall but useless in the air.
A ***ing nightmare display again.
6. CANNON.
WTF?
Less slow and fragile version of fellow 'long term Wilder target' OHare.
ie clearly SHIT!
WHY NOT BREWSTER!!!!
He was scoring before this braindead signing!
7. Barrel shaped no 10 Hamer to cover flyer James and top attacking full back Bogle.
What a ****wit,
WTF was Brookes who should be the go to on the left?
VERY LUCKY not to get sent off.
8. Why not get biggest player Moore on BEFORE the corner (for 3-1) as planned FFS rather than delay?
Unless you want this chumpionship shit (at best) IMBECILE WILDER OUT.
He's happy.
He's got what he wants
MONEY
ps not rating players till I have seen the whole match
 
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And we have to play the team 2 points behind us. So that record is very relevant to the situation. God forbid I point out a fact.
A pointless fact that is blindingly obvious to even the dimmest dimwit.
Some people can't take a loss.
We played well tonight and were beaten by a very good team who we matched right to the death.
Looking at your posts on here you are just anti Blade .
Bore off!
 
Not a fair reflection of the game.

United pressed for most of it and the fear of being undone repeatedly by their pace was misfounded.

Didn’t think they were overly special and 3-1 massively flatters them.

But you’ve got to do the basics.

Imagine how far Firpo had to run to get that header. How do you let a player go that far and leave him unopposed?

Corner, United lost both headers and then it may have been already over the line when Peck tried to clear.

Third, the one that massively flatters them, just let him have a free shot.

On the balance of play they were no better. But in both boxes is where you win and lose.

Second half we created few chances and the subs of Cannon and Hamer did nothing. Some will blame Wilder but he’s entitled to expect more when he brings on his best player and 10m signing. Both poor.

Ah well. Need a reaction now.
 
A pointless fact that is blindingly obvious to even the dimmest dimwit.
Some people can't take a loss.
We played well tonight and were beaten by a very good team who we matched right to the death.
Looking at your posts on here you are just anti Blade .
Bore off!
No, I think it's more and more these facts are in contrast to the cult of wilder on here
 
Thought we were ok until the leveller,but they always look dangerous on the counter.
Thought Anel,Vinnie stood out along with Peck who had anorher good game for me.
Stull 2nd,and a can't let this derail us.
 
Does it make you feel better writing shit like that after a big defeat
Another one with nothing positive to. Say ever who. Can't wait to. Come on mouthing off whenever we lose

Forum is chock full of wankers
I know you and Harry Haslam are singing off the same hymn sheet, but please appreciate that this is an independent fans forum where people are allowed to express their personal views on the team and the manager. Your scenario could be turned round and the question asked why do you both defend wilder to the hilt and slate members massively who criticise him ?
 
Been a disatastrous evening for me and that 'team' capped it.
Internet crashed, could not get 4th computer reactivated so went to shop.
Said it before and will say it again.
You should pay for me to not watch.
Got back still winning 1-0
God knows how what I've seen.
DISASTROUS mistake 5
The total parasite player Chroudry on at full back.
PARASITE you say?
Yes - does F ALL and gives players the ball in dangerous positions dropping them in the shit to try and hide his total lack of ability.
Tall but useless in the air.
A ***ing nightmare display again.
6. CANNON.
WTF?
Less slow and fragile version of fellow 'long term Wilder target' OHare.
ie clearly SHIT!
WHY NOT BREWSTER!!!!
He was scoring before this braindead signing!
7. Barrel shaped no 10 Hamer to cover flyer James and top attacking full back Bogle.
What a ****wit,
WTF was Brookes who should be the go to on the left?
VERY LUCKY not to get sent off.
8. Why not get biggest player Moore on BEFORE the corner (for 3-1) as planned FFS rather than delay?
Unless you want this chumpionship shit (at best) IMBECILE WILDER OUT.
He's happy.
He's got what he wants
MONEY
ps not rating players till I have seen the whole match
Congratulations you have won drunk post of the night 😂
 
I know you and Harry Haslam are singing off the same hymn sheet, but please appreciate that this is an independent fans forum where people are allowed to express their personal views on the team and the manager. Your scenario could be turned round and the question asked why do you both defend wilder to the hilt and slate members massively who criticise him ?
Nice to see a sensible post. Weird only one side calling for the other to be silenced.
 

Difficult night.

We started well and roughed them up. Made it a fight and took the lead. The problem is we couldn't keep it up and it became a level game but they had more of the ball. The turning points were Wilder bringing on Choudhury at RB (when we needed that pace and bite in midfield) and an unfit Hamer. Our best player, but what we needed was energy (and I thought Cannon had his best game for us) and Hamer wasn't the choice. Not only did he get himself stupidly booked he was a bit lucky to stay on then defensively half asleep. Poor management from a manager who set us up right. Gilchrist sat watching the game in his cage in Wilder's dungeon. Clarke has now been poor most games so why our only other RB (I know, loan numbers, but that's bad fucking planning) is locked up in his cellar I do not know.

We lost to the better team though, so fair play to them. Farke changed things after a poor start and we couldn't cope with them at the end.

Cooper - 7.5 - Oozes control and confidence. Made a couple of saves you'd expect him to make before a great tip over.
Burrows - 6 - Did ok going forward but a bit defensively not the best game. Played Piroe on and far too easily beaten.
Robbo - 6 - Did ok but his lack of pace and acceleration shows against the better teams.
Anel - 7.5 - I thought he was easily our best defender. He's picked up the last few games and looks like a top Championship defender once again.
Clarke - 5 - He had little help from JRS but he gets beaten far too easy but also doesn't block crosses/passes out. Looks like a poor signing considering.
Souza - 8 - I thought he was our best player tonight. Seemed to be everywhere at times. Covered up for a lot of other players.
Peck - 6.5 - Put a shift in and made some good challenges and blocks but I thought he looked a bit ragged and slow to react sometimes.
JRS - 5.5 - Did a couple of good things going forward but largely didn't do a job tracking back. Oddly, I thought he was getting better when he was subbed off and our biggest threat.
O'Hare - 6 - Great header for the goal and gets in some really good positions/makes some good runs. I thought he was far too weak defensively at times.
BBD - 6 - Great cross in for the goal but he doesn't track his man for their first. I want to see a lot more from him to be honest.
Campbell - 6 - In the right place for the goal and always making good runs, whether for the ball or to take players away.

Subs:

Choudhury - 5.5 - Not a right back and showed in with his positioning. Tried really hard but often chasing shadows.
Hamer - 4 - He didn't look fit and hadn't trained. Should never have come on. Did a few good things going forward but lost his man for the second and could easily have been sent off for poor attempts at tackles.
Cannon - 7 - I thought he had his best game for us. Made good runs, pressurised and put himself around. He had no support though.
Davies - 6 - Did ok when he came on but I'd like to see him have more of an impact on games.
Moore - good to see him back.

Wilder - 6 - Set us up well after dropping the ball at Elland Rd. I thought it was obvious before half-time that they were getting more and more into the game. I think Choudhury and Hamer were wrong subs. Given the bench, I'd have wanted to put McCallum on at RB and brought Choudhury on for JRS. They ran through us far too easily from 65 onwards.
Great summary 👍
 
20 minutes of half decent play doesn't win a game,they have dominated for 70,pressed us all over and still look fresh,we look knackered
That's not what I saw at all. Thought we dominated the first 30 and matched them for most of the rest until the death. Genuinely feel we deserved something out of that.
 
Right then.

Devastated to lose, but we were the better team, which we can take as a positive.

We started very well (we didn't create many chances but against them that’s a given). We pressured their keeper and the press from O’Hare and Campbell meant that they couldn’t get the ball to their forwards or midfield.

Then, the subs ruined it. Taking Rak-Sakyi off, who was growing into the game, and BBD at the same time was disastrous. All season, without one of our wingers (these two + Brooks) on the pitch we’ve looked infinitely worse. No threat and out ball. Taking Campbell off was silly as well, he was having a good game. Especially for Cannon, who does much less (though he was alright). Davies, Peck and Souza as a midfield 3 was also tragic. They’re all uncreative, aggressive who put a foot in. They left us with simultaneously no security, mobility and creativity. Hamer was crap. He slowed everything down and added nothing. Him and O’Hare don’t work when both playing as wingers, they’re both attacking midfielders.

Onwards and upwards. UTB.
 
I know you and Harry Haslam are singing off the same hymn sheet, but please appreciate that this is an independent fans forum where people are allowed to express their personal views on the team and the manager. Your scenario could be turned round and the question asked why do you both defend wilder to the hilt and slate members massively who criticise him ?
I don’t defend him to the hilt what the hell are you talking about?

I have no problem with opinions on Wilder or how the team played hence why I don’t reply to anyone with genuine opinions because we are all entitled to them. What I have a problem with is the same user names on match day threads week after week with their agenda against wilder and united full stop, that’s who I replied to and no one else. These two poster don’t take part in any praise whatsoever regardless if we win it’s just wilder wilder wilder negativity no matter how we play, it’s a agenda by absolute loony tunes, I mean look at Plaidsy hitting every thread he can tonight for his weekly wilder rants. He’s a bit of a freak tbh.

But it’s not surprising you sticking your nose in as your the same, you and your banned account hate Wilder also. It’s a personal agenda the few of you have and it’s pathetic. But then again you are a pig so not surprising.
 
We got it spot on for the first 20-25 mins and also at the start of the second.
Campbell was clearly not fit for the full 90 and actually thought Cannon did ok to say we didn’t really give him a sniff.
Thought ohare was poor tonight along with Hamer when he came on.
JRS is either exceptional (rare) or completely ineffective and lazy.
Choudary did well and stopped the threat from the left wing.
Peck was good. Souza was superb.
Leeds just had more attacking quality than us and a real belief that once they equalised, they would win.

Loads of typical over reaction on here. We were far from shit and far from outclassed.
Sometimes you lose because opposition are a bit better.
 
Thought we played reasonably well….so no complaints.
Leeds were slightly better and altho it could easily have ended a draw, think Leeds just about edged it.

All Leeds attacks were down the wings.
For me in the 1st half Solomon totally dominated a poor looking Clarke
And 2nd half again Leeds used their wings, this time with Bogle and James on the right causing Burrows trouble.

For thought BBD, Campbell, Peck, Vini and Choudhury (as right back) were good
Thought Rak Sakyi, Clarke and possibly Cannon (altho he never gets service) were poor.

Positives are we still have a 2 point lead against Burnley.
Puts pressure on us to beat QPR away next week now.
 
I don’t defend him to the hilt what the hell are you talking about?

I have no problem with opinions on Wilder or how the team played hence why I don’t reply to anyone with genuine opinions because we are all entitled to them. What I have a problem with is the same user names on match day threads week after week with their agenda against wilder and united full stop, that’s who I replied to and no one else. These two poster don’t take part in any praise whatsoever regardless if we win it’s just wilder wilder wilder negativity no matter how we play, it’s a agenda by absolute loony tunes, I mean look at Plaidsy hitting every thread he can tonight for his weekly wilder rants. He’s a bit of a freak tbh.

But it’s not surprising you sticking your nose in as your the same, you and your banned account hate Wilder also. It’s a personal agenda the few of you have and it’s pathetic. But then again you are a pig so not surprising.
And again with the personal attacks, a real shame.

The majority of this season we have been awful to watch. Southampton were similar last year, it's served them well. God forbid somebody wants to actually see their team play well and win.

Wilder left us in the shit, came back and made no apologies for it. Served up worse than what we saw under Hecky last season and has seemingly not changed whatsoever since he left. I think it's perfectly fine to have issues with that.
 
Nope. The difference was a stronger squad.
I get they have a stronger squad but we had them rattled to point we could have steam rolled them. Soon as Wilder made them subs I knew if Leeds scored we’d be done for.

Wilder went for the let’s cling on to 1-0. This process tends to back fire against stronger teams.
Shame really.
 
And again with the personal attacks, a real shame.

The majority of this season we have been awful to watch. Southampton were similar last year, it's served them well. God forbid somebody wants to actually see their team play well and win.

Wilder left us in the shit, came back and made no apologies for it. Served up worse than what we saw under Hecky last season and has seemingly not changed whatsoever since he left. I think it's perfectly fine to have issues with that.
You’ve a brass neck on you talking about personal attacks with your weekly personal attacks on Wilder.

Anyone who follows the weekly threads know it’s nothing to do with the football it’s something personal with Wilder and it’s pathetic. I’ve no problem with anyone having negative views on Wilder, his in game management, subs, formations etc etc etc… but the difference with posters on here having negative views is they are genuine views and will change their views for each game, they can say that was crap from Wilder, that was brilliant from Wilder the week after, that’s what football fans do.

But you? We could be brilliant, win 5-0 and you would still somehow turn it into a negative and a rant against Wilder, I genuinely think now at this stage in your mind you think the new owners are reading this forum and your somehow going to your going to influence them in their views on Wilder, proper proper weird.
 
You’ve a brass neck on you talking about personal attacks with your weekly personal attacks on Wilder.

Anyone who follows the weekly threads know it’s nothing to do with the football it’s something personal with Wilder and it’s pathetic. I’ve no problem with anyone having negative views on Wilder, his in game management, subs, formations etc etc etc… but the difference with posters on here having negative views is they are genuine views and will change their views for each game, they can say that was crap from Wilder, that was brilliant from Wilder the week after, that’s what football fans do.

But you? We could be brilliant, win 5-0 and you would still somehow turn it into a negative and a rant against Wilder, I genuinely think now at this stage in your mind you think the new owners are reading this forum and your somehow going to your going to influence them in their views on Wilder, proper proper weird.
Yes complaining about a football managers performance is entirely the same as throwing around insults.

Why on earth would anyone think the owners are reading anything on here and would be influenced by them?

You're inventing situations to try and attack people now, that is certainly weird. Incredible level of emotion over some posts on a fucking forum.

I'll do you a solid and retire my presence after this post given how fucking ridiculous this is. Absolute meltdowns over opinions.

I hope the blades go up, I do not think they will. I'd be much happier if they did and if we showed a higher level of consistent performances this season. I don't think Wilder is the man for the job medium or long term. I think the signings have generally been poor. I am also aware my opinion doesn't matter one single fucking bit.

Adios
 
Disappointed. Loved the first half. Second came out meaker, and they came out better.
Should have closed them down quicker on the wings, let them run to the box before challenging. Too late then. Didn't push out hard or fast enough when we did stop them.
Also disappointing how many walked out at the third. It was a kick in the balls but didn't deserve that.
 
We do tend to bottle the big games. Never really expected anything ( but always hoped) for something different rather than the shit defeat. Think Wilder is a bit of a mental weakling. His team choice and subs do little to inspire me.
 
Considering the intensity we started with couldn't ever be maintained for 90 mins, the subs were always going to change / win the game.

It went away from us when Leeds brought Hamer on.

Choudhury - loves a tackle but hates the ball

Clarke - performances are no better than the poor form that saw Gilchrist lose his place. Struggling to see the point

Peck - lovely contribution. Occasional bits of immaturity with the ball but that's going to happen. Will only get better.

Souza - a pleasure to watch. Did everything, broke up their play, started our moves. Using his vision more and more

Rak-Sakyi - I really don't see it. May carve out a career as a flat-track bully against teams that can't handle athletes but is not a footballer by any definition. Not particularly happy we're developing someone else's player when we have our own in that position

BBD - it's coming, but frustrating at the moment while he gets proper sharpness back. Not sure this weird formation suits him

O'Hare - thought he was superb first half. Wins so many headers! Second half he was one of 3 or 4 that got in each other's way

Campbell - pretty much everything we need. Does the job regardless of who's playing with him or what system we've set up (won't want to see our goal again though!)
 

Disappointing result, but we can take geart from that performance.

For 70 minutes or so across the match, we went toe-to-toe with what is, in my opinion (along with many others I'd imagine), the strongest squad in the league. Even with the players they've sold, the quality they have in every position is envious (although I'd have our keeper over theirs every day of the week). For a significant portion of those 70 mins we were the better side even. So we can look at the rest of the season, knowing that we have what it takes to compete with anyone we face.

First half we did great, especially early on. We were very eager to move forwards quickly, passing was incisive, movement was smart, with a major intent to get behind them. We quickly unsettled them, could have been in front thanks to a Meslier howler, and then take the lead through a great piece of play down the left.

Kept a good temporary for a little while after the goal, but as we slowly struggled to find our out balls, Leeds started to turn the screw. They isolated Clarke, but a solid spine kept our clean sheet. Anel, JLT, and Vini especially were excellent - sniffing out passes and crosses wherever they could. At half time, I really thought we had a chance to win, if we could get a 2nd. It was clear that only one goal would not be enough.

Very bright again to start the 2nd half. Hamza at RB looked excellent, was sniffing out every threat, and simple passes allowed us to move forwards. But when Campbell and JRS came off, we lost the tactical battle. Hamer is blatantly not fit, he was thoroughly ineffective, and I don't remember him doing anything besides that awful tackle on Bogle to get himself booked. And we went from pinning their right side in, via Burrows and BBD, to the complete opposite, and James and Bogle doubling up on Burrows. That was where things went wrong, and we never recovered.

Moving BBD meant no pressure down the left. Subbing JRS meant no pressure down the right. Allowing Leeds to push up more to dictate. Thus, we dropped back to compensate, leaving Cannon isolated. We gifted control of a game to Leeds, right at the moment where we seemed set to kill them off.

What happened afterwards was fairly academic. We let Firpo have a free header that he missed. And then we were dumb enough to let him have another one - 1-1. Hamer then loses his man at the back post from a set piece and it's 1-2. After that, I think we were so ready to be gung-ho from the restart that we got caught out when we lost possession. The lack of pressure on Piroe is disappointing, but that was not the error that lost us the game.

I wonder how this game might have played out, if Hamer had not been fit enough for the bench. That was by far his worst performance this season, and he never should have come on. For that, I have to put the blame on Wilder and his staff. Firstly, for not subbing him off vs Muddlesvrough when he was clearly not capable of regular movement, and secondly for the decisions to name him in the squad, and then put him on the pitch tonight. I can't blame Hamer all that much for doing as told, coming on and trying his best. The staff shouldn't have played him, pure and simple.

Plenty of positives to take though. Vini's performance was exceptional I thought in hugely difficult circumstances. Really drive us forward, one specific pass of absurd quality to put BBD in behind in the 2nd half. BBD also deserves credit - dud great 1st half, though his influence on the game petered out as he was moved off the left wing. And I'll offer praise to Hamza also - first 15-20 mins after he came on he was great - snuffed out everything and got us going again. Struggled as Leeds turned the screw on us, but everyone did so there's no shame there.
 

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