Sheffield United vs Leeds United

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EFL Championship Matchweek 34 - Monday 24th February 2025 - 20:00 - Bramall Lane
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Yes complaining about a football managers performance is entirely the same as throwing around insults.

Why on earth would anyone think the owners are reading anything on here and would be influenced by them?

You're inventing situations to try and attack people now, that is certainly weird. Incredible level of emotion over some posts on a fucking forum.

I'll do you a solid and retire my presence after this post given how fucking ridiculous this is. Absolute meltdowns over opinions.

I hope the blades go up, I do not think they will. I'd be much happier if they did and if we showed a higher level of consistent performances this season. I don't think Wilder is the man for the job medium or long term. I think the signings have generally been poor. I am also aware my opinion doesn't matter one single fucking bit.

Adios
You’d would think they read this forum because you constantly mention them and remind them they dropped a bollock giving Wilder a contract extension. To bleat on over and over the same things every single week there is no other explanation other than your trying to get your point seen.

Of course you will retire your presence now, your only on match threads with your Wilder rants and that is you done till the next game.

Your first post today was the Match Day thread and you’ve as usual gone on about Wilder.

Your last post previous to today was in the Boro match day thread.

Your post previous to Boro match day thread was you’ve guessed it the Pompey match day thread the week before.

Your post prior to that was the Derby match day.

You see the pattern here? This isn’t about opinions it’s you coming on to slaughter Wilder during and after a game then disappears till the next game and it starts all over again. Get a life ffs it’s nothing to do with football opinions it’s clearly personal.
 

That's not what I saw at all. Thought we dominated the first 30 and matched them for most of the rest until the death. Genuinely feel we deserved something out of that.
Stats say a different story home team and only ten shots with four on target we aren't as good as Leeds by a long chalk and in my opinion play offs it is
 
We played very well tonite and Wilder set us upto to do so, caught Leeds flat footed. Maybe JRS could have stayed on longer and BBD could have come off sooner. But they are small margins. Go back 3 and defend the box, well we kept trying to go for it, like we said we wanted, but the legs went and Leeds are an excellent team, better than us, even though we more than matched them for 70 minutes and they were clinical in the small amount of time they were allowed back into the game. It's not about 'tactics' or 'bottling' it, every time a result does not go our way.
 
Obviously tonight was a disappointment. We started really well but needed to get a second while on top.

Just a couple of observations. Clarke can't read the game and gets caught out too often. Since Souttar departed we have a big problem. Organisation, someone on the pitch to pull and push our players where needed. Hamer chased back on our right side and looked for the ball from cooper. We lose the ball and no one has moved to cover for Hamer. That should not be happening.

Through out the game we were scrambling to get in position when they attacked and while we slowed them down we were standing off them too much which gave wingers and full backs room to cross.
This is very basic stuff.

Lastly what was the point of getting Holding if we are leaving him on the bench. Surely he is better at playing and organising than Anel and Jack.
 
Well, very disappointing on the whole. Felt we ran out of steam. We really rattled them first half. Thought Choudrey change was good. Stopped them marauding down the left, but they switched to the left and a tiring Burrows was overwhelmed. We had the match in our pocket at half-time. Would have been nice to be 2 up, as we deserved and could have been. I'm surprised we didn't go for back 5 with Holding in control. But had Hamer scored a 2nd we would have been complaining why negative tactics. Small margins. 3-1 flattered them, had we gone in 2 up and shut the door then we would be celebrating. Leeds threat is down both wings, we didn't deal with it last 20 minutes and got punished. 1st half was probably our best of the season, against the best team in our league. Shame we couldn't finish it off. Still, onwards and upwards, 2nd spot is still ours to give away. Do we really want EPL? Leeds will get hammered next season with that defence. Farke is a lucky guy at the moment with that squad, can he build an EPL team, I think not. Wilder actually has it in his locker, can he do it again? Time will tell.
 
I’m hugely encouraged by tonight’s performance. In fact I’m now more convinced that we’ll take second place. We bossed large parts of the game and could easily have been 2 up before the Leeds equaliser. As others have said, I think the substitutions caused us to lose shape and unfortunately Hamer being headless and out of position allowed James to get into the game at a crucial time.
Disappointing but Leeds are the best in the division.
For the first time this season, we have a wealth of attacking talent … but due to injuries and new arrivals, we’ve not had as long to really fine tune how they play together. I saw enough tonight though to convince me that we are the second best team in the division and if we keep up those levels of effort and positivity we will seal an automatic spot.
Special mention for Souza and Peck … outstanding at the heart of the team.
 
Difficult night.

We started well and roughed them up. Made it a fight and took the lead. The problem is we couldn't keep it up and it became a level game but they had more of the ball. The turning points were Wilder bringing on Choudhury at RB (when we needed that pace and bite in midfield) and an unfit Hamer. Our best player, but what we needed was energy (and I thought Cannon had his best game for us) and Hamer wasn't the choice. Not only did he get himself stupidly booked he was a bit lucky to stay on then defensively half asleep. Poor management from a manager who set us up right. Gilchrist sat watching the game in his cage in Wilder's dungeon. Clarke has now been poor most games so why our only other RB (I know, loan numbers, but that's bad fucking planning) is locked up in his cellar I do not know.

We lost to the better team though, so fair play to them. Farke changed things after a poor start and we couldn't cope with them at the end.

Cooper - 7.5 - Oozes control and confidence. Made a couple of saves you'd expect him to make before a great tip over.
Burrows - 6 - Did ok going forward but a bit defensively not the best game. Played Piroe on and far too easily beaten.
Robbo - 6 - Did ok but his lack of pace and acceleration shows against the better teams.
Anel - 7.5 - I thought he was easily our best defender. He's picked up the last few games and looks like a top Championship defender once again.
Clarke - 5 - He had little help from JRS but he gets beaten far too easy but also doesn't block crosses/passes out. Looks like a poor signing considering.
Souza - 8 - I thought he was our best player tonight. Seemed to be everywhere at times. Covered up for a lot of other players.
Peck - 6.5 - Put a shift in and made some good challenges and blocks but I thought he looked a bit ragged and slow to react sometimes.
JRS - 5.5 - Did a couple of good things going forward but largely didn't do a job tracking back. Oddly, I thought he was getting better when he was subbed off and our biggest threat.
O'Hare - 6 - Great header for the goal and gets in some really good positions/makes some good runs. I thought he was far too weak defensively at times.
BBD - 6 - Great cross in for the goal but he doesn't track his man for their first. I want to see a lot more from him to be honest.
Campbell - 6 - In the right place for the goal and always making good runs, whether for the ball or to take players away.

Subs:

Choudhury - 5.5 - Not a right back and showed in with his positioning. Tried really hard but often chasing shadows.
Hamer - 4 - He didn't look fit and hadn't trained. Should never have come on. Did a few good things going forward but lost his man for the second and could easily have been sent off for poor attempts at tackles.
Cannon - 7 - I thought he had his best game for us. Made good runs, pressurised and put himself around. He had no support though.
Davies - 6 - Did ok when he came on but I'd like to see him have more of an impact on games.
Moore - good to see him back.

Wilder - 6 - Set us up well after dropping the ball at Elland Rd. I thought it was obvious before half-time that they were getting more and more into the game. I think Choudhury and Hamer were wrong subs. Given the bench, I'd have wanted to put McCallum on at RB and brought Choudhury on for JRS. They ran through us far too easily from 65 onwards.
Absolutely gobsmacked with your score for Cannon - he offers nothing
 
Disappointing result, but we can take geart from that performance.

For 70 minutes or so across the match, we went toe-to-toe with what is, in my opinion (along with many others I'd imagine), the strongest squad in the league. Even with the players they've sold, the quality they have in every position is envious (although I'd have our keeper over theirs every day of the week). For a significant portion of those 70 mins we were the better side even. So we can look at the rest of the season, knowing that we have what it takes to compete with anyone we face.

First half we did great, especially early on. We were very eager to move forwards quickly, passing was incisive, movement was smart, with a major intent to get behind them. We quickly unsettled them, could have been in front thanks to a Meslier howler, and then take the lead through a great piece of play down the left.

Kept a good temporary for a little while after the goal, but as we slowly struggled to find our out balls, Leeds started to turn the screw. They isolated Clarke, but a solid spine kept our clean sheet. Anel, JLT, and Vini especially were excellent - sniffing out passes and crosses wherever they could. At half time, I really thought we had a chance to win, if we could get a 2nd. It was clear that only one goal would not be enough.

Very bright again to start the 2nd half. Hamza at RB looked excellent, was sniffing out every threat, and simple passes allowed us to move forwards. But when Campbell and JRS came off, we lost the tactical battle. Hamer is blatantly not fit, he was thoroughly ineffective, and I don't remember him doing anything besides that awful tackle on Bogle to get himself booked. And we went from pinning their right side in, via Burrows and BBD, to the complete opposite, and James and Bogle doubling up on Burrows. That was where things went wrong, and we never recovered.

Moving BBD meant no pressure down the left. Subbing JRS meant no pressure down the right. Allowing Leeds to push up more to dictate. Thus, we dropped back to compensate, leaving Cannon isolated. We gifted control of a game to Leeds, right at the moment where we seemed set to kill them off.

What happened afterwards was fairly academic. We let Firpo have a free header that he missed. And then we were dumb enough to let him have another one - 1-1. Hamer then loses his man at the back post from a set piece and it's 1-2. After that, I think we were so ready to be gung-ho from the restart that we got caught out when we lost possession. The lack of pressure on Piroe is disappointing, but that was not the error that lost us the game.

I wonder how this game might have played out, if Hamer had not been fit enough for the bench. That was by far his worst performance this season, and he never should have come on. For that, I have to put the blame on Wilder and his staff. Firstly, for not subbing him off vs Muddlesvrough when he was clearly not capable of regular movement, and secondly for the decisions to name him in the squad, and then put him on the pitch tonight. I can't blame Hamer all that much for doing as told, coming on and trying his best. The staff shouldn't have played him, pure and simple.

Plenty of positives to take though. Vini's performance was exceptional I thought in hugely difficult circumstances. Really drive us forward, one specific pass of absurd quality to put BBD in behind in the 2nd half. BBD also deserves credit - dud great 1st half, though his influence on the game petered out as he was moved off the left wing. And I'll offer praise to Hamza also - first 15-20 mins after he came on he was great - snuffed out everything and got us going again. Struggled as Leeds turned the screw on us, but everyone did so there's no shame there.
Agree with pretty much all that. If they hadn't cleared Vini's effort off the line in the first half we could really have had a strangle hold of them by half time. As it was we played well but didn't do quite enough.

I think we just tired after the blitzkrieg start. The subs didn't work but not sure I would have done much different apart from maybe bringing on Holding near the end, but appreciate we didn't want to just sit back and invite them forward.

Seen some bizarre criticism of a few on here. I thought Hamza was great when he came on and Campbell and Diaz both had good games but tired and did need replacing. Burrows clearly tired second half as he ended up overrun.

Hamer was awful and I think cost us the second goal and was lucky to stay on the park with a silly late foul after getting his yellow. I want it to work out for Canon but on every occasion he got to the ball first he just inexplicable fell on his arse.

Vini and Anel were superb and can count themselves hard done by to be on the losing team. Really want us to hold on to these two.

All up, decent performance and unlucky with the result.
 
Stats say a different story home team and only ten shots with four on target we aren't as good as Leeds by a long chalk and in my opinion play offs it is
The stats be as they may, but if Peck was an inch taller it probably finishes 1-1 and I don't think many would have seen Leeds as unlucky.
 
Can't really fault the players last night. Leeds look the part this season and the only thing that could have made the difference for us would have been having the energy of the first 20 minutes for the full 90+.

Right now Leeds are brimming with confidence and tenacity and we need to find our own in time for the trip to QPR.
 
the result certainly flattered leeds imo we deserved at least a draw our problem was not scoring more when we were on top first half hour should have gone in 2 up but we know leeds go up gears in 2nd halves of games
 
Disappointing result, but we can take geart from that performance.

For 70 minutes or so across the match, we went toe-to-toe with what is, in my opinion (along with many others I'd imagine), the strongest squad in the league. Even with the players they've sold, the quality they have in every position is envious (although I'd have our keeper over theirs every day of the week). For a significant portion of those 70 mins we were the better side even. So we can look at the rest of the season, knowing that we have what it takes to compete with anyone we face.

First half we did great, especially early on. We were very eager to move forwards quickly, passing was incisive, movement was smart, with a major intent to get behind them. We quickly unsettled them, could have been in front thanks to a Meslier howler, and then take the lead through a great piece of play down the left.

Kept a good temporary for a little while after the goal, but as we slowly struggled to find our out balls, Leeds started to turn the screw. They isolated Clarke, but a solid spine kept our clean sheet. Anel, JLT, and Vini especially were excellent - sniffing out passes and crosses wherever they could. At half time, I really thought we had a chance to win, if we could get a 2nd. It was clear that only one goal would not be enough.

Very bright again to start the 2nd half. Hamza at RB looked excellent, was sniffing out every threat, and simple passes allowed us to move forwards. But when Campbell and JRS came off, we lost the tactical battle. Hamer is blatantly not fit, he was thoroughly ineffective, and I don't remember him doing anything besides that awful tackle on Bogle to get himself booked. And we went from pinning their right side in, via Burrows and BBD, to the complete opposite, and James and Bogle doubling up on Burrows. That was where things went wrong, and we never recovered.

Moving BBD meant no pressure down the left. Subbing JRS meant no pressure down the right. Allowing Leeds to push up more to dictate. Thus, we dropped back to compensate, leaving Cannon isolated. We gifted control of a game to Leeds, right at the moment where we seemed set to kill them off.

What happened afterwards was fairly academic. We let Firpo have a free header that he missed. And then we were dumb enough to let him have another one - 1-1. Hamer then loses his man at the back post from a set piece and it's 1-2. After that, I think we were so ready to be gung-ho from the restart that we got caught out when we lost possession. The lack of pressure on Piroe is disappointing, but that was not the error that lost us the game.

I wonder how this game might have played out, if Hamer had not been fit enough for the bench. That was by far his worst performance this season, and he never should have come on. For that, I have to put the blame on Wilder and his staff. Firstly, for not subbing him off vs Muddlesvrough when he was clearly not capable of regular movement, and secondly for the decisions to name him in the squad, and then put him on the pitch tonight. I can't blame Hamer all that much for doing as told, coming on and trying his best. The staff shouldn't have played him, pure and simple.

Plenty of positives to take though. Vini's performance was exceptional I thought in hugely difficult circumstances. Really drive us forward, one specific pass of absurd quality to put BBD in behind in the 2nd half. BBD also deserves credit - dud great 1st half, though his influence on the game petered out as he was moved off the left wing. And I'll offer praise to Hamza also - first 15-20 mins after he came on he was great - snuffed out everything and got us going again. Struggled as Leeds turned the screw on us, but everyone did so there's no shame there.
Great post. Summed up the game very well. I think we should have few complaints. We gave it a good go but ran out of steam against the best team in the league. If we maintain the same style and positivity we still have a great chance of going up automatically.
 
Great start but after that were second best. Shame Hamer wasn't fit to start as perhaps he would have helped us get a bigger lead when completely on top in a way Leeds never really were all game long!
 

A cracking game, but the better team won, even Wilder said that.
Whilst Leeds are developing a team for the Premiership, we are not.
Unfortunately lack of investment in the past showing. To many loan players, not conducive to a team looking at promotion. A lot of money is required for players for the premiership, not sure if we are going to have it.
In saying that, we are having a far better season than most fans and pundits expected and gave Leeds, who will win the league, a right game.
The score line does not reflect this, a proud blade today.
 
I don’t defend him to the hilt what the hell are you talking about?

I have no problem with opinions on Wilder or how the team played hence why I don’t reply to anyone with genuine opinions because we are all entitled to them. What I have a problem with is the same user names on match day threads week after week with their agenda against wilder and united full stop, that’s who I replied to and no one else. These two poster don’t take part in any praise whatsoever regardless if we win it’s just wilder wilder wilder negativity no matter how we play, it’s a agenda by absolute loony tunes, I mean look at Plaidsy hitting every thread he can tonight for his weekly wilder rants. He’s a bit of a freak tbh.

But it’s not surprising you sticking your nose in as your the same, you and your banned account hate Wilder also. It’s a personal agenda the few of you have and it’s pathetic. But then again you are a pig so not surprising.
Really intelligent reply 👏👏👏 But what else would I expect from someone with your attitude and mentality !
 
Stats say a different story home team and only ten shots with four on target we aren't as good as Leeds by a long chalk and in my opinion play offs it is

Shots can be misleading.
If Leeds had 5 shots from well outside the box
But we had 2 shots, 5 yards out from the goal line…..then which team deserves to be in front?

The best stat to date is probably expected goals.
The XG stats were even…..if Leeds are the best team then we’re not far off.
Play like that the rest of the season and we’re guaranteed to finish 2nd.

The pattern of the game for me was

1: We started quickly with high tempo/ high energy and for a spell blew them away.
They couldn’t cope and we could and should have been 2-0 up at half time

2: Leeds did all their attacks down the wing,
1st half was a massive worry how it looked so easy for Solomon to torment a poor looking Clarke (with Rak Sakyi offering little help)

3: Choudhury came on and did an excellent job on Solomon, so Leeds switches their attacks to the right with Bogle and James
looking really good causing trouble against Burrows on the break (with Hamer offering little help).

4: It was clear our players started running out of steam…so substitutions were needed.
On 60 minutes we looked comfortable with no threat from Leeds but after making the substitutions were lost our way.

Overall, pleased we were positive, the irony is if we’d have gone negative bringing on Holding to go to a back 5, we might have won.
Also thought we were good but Leeds were slightly better, at least we went at them playing an open game and just fell short.
 
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Shots can be misleading.
If Leeds had 5 shots from well outside the box
But we had 2 shots, 5 yards out from the goal line…..then which team deserves to be in front?

The best stat to date is probably expected goals.
The XG stats were even…..if Leeds are the best team then we’re not far off.
Play like that the rest of the season and we’re guaranteed to finish 2nd.
So far we've conceded 8 goals against Leeds and Burnley and scored 1.
The stats indicate we aren't among the best two in the league.
 
Pretty annoyed we blew the chance to go 3 points clear late on but with them in the cup a chance to go 5 clear can't be beating ourselves up too long
 
I am not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the ref was as good as they come these days. Let the match flow, didn't buy the dives and got all big decisions correct.
We commented during the game, very good for keeping it flowing.
Wasn't sure when Meslier slid out into the d , seemed handball. But we are behind and haven't watched replay. So I don't know on that one tbh.
 
My take from last night , we need Holding to start games ( love jlt but he needs a break)
Back 4 would have been more solid ? I've noticed since souttar was injured anel isn't marauding forward (that's a trust issue in jlt !! )
Vini ,peck and Davies (Choudry as back up ) for the central two is probably the best I've seen of all the midfielders in the championship
Now for me the issue is apart from ohare, hamer and Campbell we've no movement in the front 4 jrs is a passenger half the time and Brooks is to inconsistent
Bbd doesn't work when we're on the front foot but does really well on counter attacking
Maybe it's too soon but I'd like to see the young Peruvian lad involved, our wide players just aren't doing it for me
Leeds are a good team don't take that away from what happened last night ,if they do go up they'll get ragged most week's under farke Though
 
Let's face it wobbles appen,
We are still in the middle of a rebuild (With hopefully a bit more cash to spend), they've had a few seasons down here with a lot of cash to get theirs done. and it shows, as it should, in what they could bring on in the last quarter compared to what we had.
The one thing that game showed is that it's no longer a game of 11 vs 11, like some on here seem to think, the modern game is 17 vs 17 and if your reserves are not as strong as your first team, against the big boy's your going to be in a lot of trouble...... :tumbleweed:
 
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Have the ratings opened up for this match or have I missed them.? My memory's not what it used to be and I'm quickly forgetting Monday night.
 

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