Why I'm supporting Weir

[Torrix1889]

I just can't see how things are going to change, if he could explain what he thinks/hopes will change then maybe we could have some sort of clue as to where we are heading.....all we get at the moment is that it's a transitional period and that patience is needed, that he is dissappointed with the way things are going and that results are needed but what he doesn't actually offer is any idea or suggestion as to how he is going to fix it.

He has his style of how he wants the players to play and he will not waiver from that, it's as obvious as a hard-on in a pair of speedos that the players can't deliver what he wants but instead of addressing this and looking for a solution he rigidly sticks to his priciples in the vain hope that the players will all-of-a-sudden....get it.

 

[puppet]

Indeed. I can't conceive what sort of maniac thought that Morgan was more likely to get us promoted than Wilson.

The one who appointed David Weir?

 

[dublin 10 blade]

This is not true. There were some people who had had enough, but on the whole people thought firing Wilson then was a daft decision. And of course the club is still paying for it.

I read many posts on here Revolution , that said he has to go because once the backbone of his first year squad was gone {although people were'nt willing to realise this }, it was second season syndrome like his previous clubs , relegation , poor manager , etc,etc , people not realising it was because his squad had been sold/ prison that we had to much chaff , and we were in fact seeing the team we would have been seeing in his first year only we tryed getting out full strength from our relegation year , did'nt imply that you were calling for his head , although many were , was against him getting the job , but once he had he should have kept it for his contract of 3 years . We may not be were we are know , but thats history now . U.T.B.

 

[Moorside Blade]

Under the considerable influence of the new co-chairman and directors, lets hope that the Board are actively working to find Weir's replacement, for when (what appears like) his inevitable departure occurs. To me the key is for the Board to review and confirm the clubs strategy and philosophy (e.g playing style) for staying in and then getting out of this division in the right direction. Follow this with the appointment of an experienced and proven manager compatible with this strategy/philosophy. In my view, the worst thing that the Board can do is to be bounced into a hasty appointment to appease the growing swell of opinion. We do though need the right replacement lined up within the next few weeks, to allow ample time to work with the existing squad and identify team strenghtening requirements ahead of the transfer window.

I also think that Winter's role and continuing involvement should be reviewed. I really am not sure what this guy brings to the party.

 

[Worksop_Blade]

I’m still behind him. I bought into his ethos and ideas and my views on how to go about achieving long term and sustainable success are similar to Weir’s.

I think he’s been a victim of circumstance in some respects. We lost McDonald which knocked us totally out of sync and by the time the replacements had arrived and settled in we’d suffered a couple of narrow defeats and the rot had set in which was confounded by virtue of it being a young squad lacking on the pitch leadership.

I still think Weir and his team have it in them to guide SUFC through this and be better for it but to make any progress from where we currently are then a line needs to be drawn in the sand and everyone to a man needs to forget what has happened and start afresh in a positive and supportive environment. The problem with that is we’re now in a situation where we have young players and fragile personalities, a squad of footballers unweathered to baying crowds and pressure situations and a fan base that wants blood. It’s becoming a catch 22 situation.

Just don't buy that pal, KMac left 3 games in, 2 of which we had already lost, You can't pin this on losing him like last season was down to Blackman leaving.

Basically your cure for the problems faced currently is not to do with tactics or player selection. It's simply to be a bunch of shiny happy people and keep watching as the team timidly pass it back and sidewards.

Say we all agree to draw a line in the sand today and forget whats gone before, what happens when Callum Wilson gets 4 on Sunday without reply? do we draw another line on Monday? and so on etc.

LWDLWDWWWLLW Look at this dream run of form, you'd take that all day right?

That's Adrian Heath's first 12 games in charge.

 

[LSF]

Indeed. I can't conceive what sort of maniac thought that Morgan was more likely to get us promoted than Wilson.

Do you think Morgan would have had as bad a start as this?

 

[Ted Danson]

Do you think Morgan would have had as bad a start as this?

No, didnt he get more points in the few games he was in charge than Weir has in all his

 

[LSF]

No, didnt he get more points in the few games he was in charge than Weir has in all his

Well yes, but my question was more hypothetical if Morgs had been given the job full time.

 

[Darren]

Do you think Morgan would have had as bad a start as this?

In his 7 games he won 2 and drew 2, so he has already done better than Weir has done in 13 games.

It would therefore be impossible for him to have had a worse start

 

[LSF]

In his 7 games he won 2 and drew 2, so he has already done better than Weir has done in 13 games.

It would therefore be impossible for him to have had a worse start

See my answer to Ted D, his record whilst in charge has no relevance really. Just wondered as you were vehemently against Morgs getting it full time whether you thought he could fuck up as royally as Dave Weir?

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

Fred and Rose West couldn't have fucked it up as royally as Weir has.

 

[Darren]

See my answer to Ted D, his record whilst in charge has no relevance really. Just wondered as you were vehemently against Morgs getting it full time whether you thought he could fuck up as royally as Dave Weir?

I didn't in my wildest nightmares think anyone could fuck up as royally as Weir has done. I keep bringing up my dead granny, but I think if she was manager and the players consulted her by ouija board 30 mins before each game she would have done better than Weir.

 

[LSF]

I didn't in my wildest nightmares think anyone could fuck up as royally as Weir has done. I keep bringing up my dead granny, but I think if she was manager and the players consulted her by ouija board 30 mins before each game she would have done better than Weir.

Yep, me too Darren and I suspect so did McCabe et al ...which is why they could now be wringing their hands wondering what the fuck to do next!

 

[Darren]

Yep, me too Darren and I suspect so did McCabe et al ...which is why they could now be wringing their hands wondering what the fuck to do next!

Well they appear to have inadvertantly stumbled on the worse manager in the club's history, so the next one can only be better...

 

[Zanzibar]

The only "ethos" I want to buy into is the one that says "winning matches is the most important thing". Anything else is froth and bollocks.

And as other people have said, what exactly was it that needed changing in the ethos? We have played passy-passy stuff under Wilson for the past 2 seasons and have been serious contenders for promotion both seasons. All that was needed was a couple of astute signings and away we go.

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You didn't see us much last season did you.
Wilson's football was far from passy-passy; it was mind numbingly sleep inducing.
Whether he should have been sacked.......

 

[Darren]

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You didn't see us much last season did you.
Wilson's football was far from passy-passy; it was mind numbingly sleep inducing.
Whether he should have been sacked.......

I don't think anyone alleges it was "hoof".

Whatever it was, it made us promotion contenders all season.

 

[JohnDenver]

I don't think anyone alleges it was "hoof".

Whatever it was, it made us promotion contenders all season.

I'd describe it as a slowly decaying passing style which inadvertently lapsed into hoof-lite.

 

[FleaPitBlade]

Basically your cure for the problems faced currently is not to do with tactics or player selection. It's simply to be a bunch of shiny happy people and keep watching as the team timidly pass it back and sidewards.

Where did I say that?

FWIW, I do think the mood from the stands at Bramall Lane is horrible at times and I can fully understand why young players struggle to handle it.

Nothing can be done to change that, they either have to deal with it or move on but don't be surprised if a 20 year old kid sticks to the easy, sideways passes rather than taking on his man when they've spent the last 5 games being moaned and whinged at every time they lose the ball.

Not saying its the only problem SUFC face, just part of it.

 

[themaninblack]

I've only been to one game this season (the round trip took me three days due to an accident on the E40) so I haven't had to put up with as much as some of you but I have listened to the commentaries, seen the woeful defending on t'internet and there is no doubt that we have been rubbish. For the time being however I am backing Weir (probably be sacked in the morning now) for a number of reasons:

- I don't like seeing a man being kicked while he is down;
- the 'professionally outraged' on here (who probably don't get to many more games than me) get right on my tits;
- a bloke should be given a fair go and I reckon he deserves (some) more time to get it right.

None of us are as gutted as Weir is right now. Until those up close and in the know can see that we have reached the tipping point then he has my support.

 

[JohnDenver]

- the 'professionally outraged' on here (who probably don't get to many more games than me) get right on my tits;

 

[blade too long]

some people come out of university with first classlaw degrees, and are loved by other students but never make it as top barrister , they have the credentials but lack in other areas, its life , it happens
Wier has the badges , the qualifications and the backing of old team mates, but in the cut and thrust of the hot seat hes not cutting it, its life

 

[Kev Gee]

Sounds like a broken man to me. Utterly dreadful interview.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1649266-suf...paign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medi

Sure he's a decent bloke but I think he'll be on his bike.

Terrible interview that.
He sounds fucked.
Do the decent thing man & walk. Its just not worked out for you David.

 

[Foxy]

Terrible interview that.
He sounds fucked.

To be perfectly honest, in the situation last night... having just seen the game and the performance. I'd rather he sound like that than glossing over another poor performance and giving the usual soundbites all managers do. Shows he's bothered.

What he then needs to do is react with conviction and make an example.

 

[Kev Gee]

To be perfectly honest, in the situation last night... having just seen the game and the performance. I'd rather he sound like that than glossing over another poor performance and giving the usual soundbites all managers do. Shows he's bothered.

What he then needs to do is react with conviction and make an example.

I agree. But weres the fight? The determination to get us out of this mess?
I maybe wrong but he just doesnt seem like he has the stomach for it?

Im not just blaming him however. There are plenty of players in our squad who havvnt covered themselves in glory.

 

[Foxy]

I agree. But weres the fight? The determination to get us out of this mess?
I maybe wrong but he just doesnt seem like he has the stomach for it?

That's what I'd like displayed in the reaction and hopefully, what was shown in the dressing room.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Agree with the opening post completely. Stick with him.

Yes....let's get relegated. I like your thinking.

 

[Pennblade]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

You're entitled to your view as am I and I think you're wrong because:

1. We've seen "glimpses" - and sod all else
2. He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3. If McCabe isn't telling "porkies" (a big "IF" in my book) - we've now got some financial backing which we didn't have when we were recruiting Weir.
4. We scored ONE goal against CRAWLEY - it's a sign of the times that some people think that's good!
5. He respected in football - as a player - there's sod all to respect as a manager!
6. We're all supporters - nd none of us want to be in the fourth division next season!

 

[United Aren't Back.]

You can't dispute his credentials and on paper he should be a great manager. What I think he's lacking is the right personality. The manager has to create the right environment to build a strong team spirit and make the dressing room a great place to be.

He always comes across as boring, emotionless, monotone and totally devoid of passion and that's exactly replicated in how his team performs.

I think that's just the way he is and it will always be his downfall. Whilst I'm not suggesting that he lights his farts or turns up on a unicycle, I do think he desperately needs to inject some sort of spark about the place. I'm just pleased he isn't my boss, the miserable twat.

UTB

Sorry to be a nuisance..but what credentials/
He played for Rangers and was an Everton youth coach. So what credentials?

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Do you think Morgan would have had as bad a start as this?

yes i am certain of it....

 

[ScoobBlade]

Braintree Town FC vs Sheffield United FC is a very real possibility, and you want to stick by him?

Yes, I've always fancied a weekend away in Braintree !