The Stir......open letter

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I may be a little slow here but what exactly are they protesting against. All I've seen/heard is "sisu out" and "ruining club". What exactly have SISU done or not done. I appreciate Coventry's league position is poor similar to Charlton so what other than being in league 1 are they protesting against. Would these protest be happening if Coventry were top of the championship for example? I'm genuinely interested to know if anyone has an answer.

To me it seem many fans forget almost no football club is profitable and rarely represent a reasonable investment. What happens if SISU or whoever owns the club sell for £1 to a supporters group? Who pays wages bills etc? How does that leave them better off? Unless you are an exceptionally rich Coventry fan who's got a spare £15 million lying around who would "buy" Coventry
 



I just don't get why their fans think they have the right to do what they did last night, at the expense of another club. Not only needing points our self, but most have drive home to Sheffield afterwards. I am not sure if any fans missed any trains due to what happened last night, but would have been another expense. But that's alright apparently, as long as Coventry fans get to show the world.

There are surely better ways of telling the world of their plight, without ruining it for fans who have travelled a hundred plus miles either way.

Good luck to them, and I mean that but to paint us as the bad guys is shite, when we were just frustrated by a stupid plan.
 
I just can't wait to remember this whole thing and tell it to my grandkids in a SilentBlade-esque fashion.
 
Open letter to Coventry fans

If you ever again do anything as stupid with potential damaging consequences to our season. I will personally buy out SISU out and then dissolve your shitty little club.

Yours
LG
x
 
The Star really is a dreadful rag, isn't it?

I just tried to visit their website to read the letter and after waiting a year or so for all the adverts to load up their home news page appeared. A highlighted story was headed "School criticised for cancelling Christmas" with a helpful photo of two girls each wearing a hijab. I guess the idea is that we think "Grr. Political correctness. Bloody Muslims come over 'ere and don't like Christmas so we have to cancel it. Bah!"

Then when you try to open the story, after another long wait, it turns out that the real story is "School criticised for cancelling Christmas jumper day" and is nothing to do with Muslims at all. The head cancelled the jumper day for some other reason and then went on holiday.

The open letter is just a whinge. That the Star's editors think it (and a crashingly dull story about a non Christmas jumper day dressed up as summat it's not) worth publishing just tells us how desperate they must be to find any "news" that hasn't already been broadcast around the world. They should have kept the Green 'Un going and ditched their daily paper instead. It's shit.
 
sitwell said:
ooh I cant wait for my monthly phone call from The stirs advertising dept. I will give them half an hour of my time ,letting them design the ad for a quarter page ad in the business section ,before telling them to shove their smelly pork stinking rag up their pre redundant arseholes.
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I think you should record that phone call
 
TBW57 said:
The Star really is a dreadful rag, isn't it?

I just tried to visit their website to read the letter and after waiting a year or so for all the adverts to load up their home news page appeared. A highlighted story was headed "School criticised for cancelling Christmas" with a helpful photo of two girls each wearing a hijab. I guess the idea is that we think "Grr. Political correctness. Bloody Muslims come over 'ere and don't like Christmas so we have to cancel it. Bah!"

Then when you try to open the story, after another long wait, it turns out that the real story is "School criticised for cancelling Christmas jumper day" and is nothing to do with Muslims at all. The head cancelled the jumper day for some other reason and then went on holiday.

The open letter is just a whinge. That the Star's editors think it (and a crashingly dull story about a non Christmas jumper day dressed up as summat it's not) worth publishing just tells us how desperate they must be to find any "news" that hasn't already been broadcast around the world. They should have kept the Green 'Un going and ditched their daily paper instead. It's shit.
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I saw that earlier, disgusting bit of click bait journalism.
 
itsinyerblood said:
Nah Billy, this is swearing!

Given that newspapers are struggling to adjust to so-called new media, no doubt The Star will continue to shrink it's workforce until it exists only as an online entity, so.....
...the fucking fucker is fucking fucked. Twas ever a truer comment of a publication's reason for being written. It barely deserves the title 'newspaper' as it scratches the surface where news-gathering is concerned. Rather than ask for a response from the admin of this forum (or any other SUFC supporter site), this local rag went ahead and published this letter without redress from a viable and recognised SUFC fan's forum. An appalling example of shoddy journalism from a publication that is meant to represent the views of supporters from either Sheffield club.....the only consolation is that in a day or two this will have all the significance of yesterday's chip paper.
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I saw someone in Sainsbury's today buy the Star and The Daily Mail they must really hate us to buy the Pig fanzine along with Fatty Samuels anti Blades column to need that much schadenfreude.
 
ghandi said:
I saw someone in Sainsbury's today buy the Star and The Daily Mail they must really hate us to buy the Pig fanzine along with Fatty Samuels anti Blades column to need that much schadenfreude.
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Some people need their fix of spite-filled dross, and to receive it from two apparently unrelated sources must stimulate their senses in ways that only the S6 Lady-boys will truly comprehend. Joined up thinking seems to have gone out of fashion in some quarters, so rhetoric and propaganda tick all the boxes these dullards thirst for. Rather than look at the facts, far easier to let someone else do your thinking for you.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
Got to the bit where it said Coventry City are a sleeping giant club. Couldn't go any further.

Shame on The Stir for printing that. Sooner that rag goes into admin the better.
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Read the match report in the star and my reaction was `that's been written by a Coventry reporter ` to my amazement it was James Shields. Don't understand why he put up the challenge by a Coventry fan for a blade to respond to his request.Sympathy is one thing but is shield from Coventry ? If not why not send him there !!..That report was crap and as for the break in play helped us !!.We were on the front foot from about 75 minutes and I felt a goal was coming.The hold up looked to have killed the game but credit to the blades for coming out and going for the win which I think was coming anyway.
Any reasonable person will have sympathy for there plight but doing what they did was wrong justice was done in the end We didn't play well but still did enough to take the points as the score suggest s.
 
Linz said:
So what we have is:

"Some nasty (sarcastic) chanting" which in the grand scheme of things makes fuck all difference

Versus

Invading the pitch
Chucking stuff at our players
Trying to disrupt play by whistling while we were in possession
Trying to get the game abandoned at 85 minutes - all of the above could have a bearing on our potential promotion this season
Attacking Sheffield United fans at the coaches
Issuing death threats and similar on social media - both of which are criminal acts

Yeah... I can see how we're in the wrong there, lads.

Well done to The Star for upholding the standards of journalism we have come to expect from them.
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Unbelievable that theyve printed the 'open letter'.

Its all to generate publicity for their failing newspaper.
 
Can Blades fans write an open letter to the Coventry rags and see if they would reciprocate the favour?
 
Tyler Durden said:
Time for everyone to seriously consider never buying that scummy rag ever again. They're already in the shit, a sustained boycott might just put them under.
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Now you're just being selfish. Think of their core readership, sat dribbling in nursing homes saying 'as t'Star cum yet?'

Seriously, you're right. When that rag finally goes to the wall noboby will care. After a few weeks it will - like the Green 'Un - be forgotten as people realise that things like the internet has snuck up on them. Unfortunately, the same can't be said about Radio Sheffield which has a bottomless pit of taxpayers' money to support it's idiotic content.
 



sheffielder said:
I just don't get why their fans think they have the right to do what they did last night, at the expense of another club. Not only needing points our self, but most have drive home to Sheffield afterwards. I am not sure if any fans missed any trains due to what happened last night, but would have been another expense. But that's alright apparently, as long as Coventry fans get to show the world.

There are surely better ways of telling the world of their plight, without ruining it for fans who have travelled a hundred plus miles either way.

Good luck to them, and I mean that but to paint us as the bad guys is shite, when we were just frustrated by a stupid plan.
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Where do you send people from Coventry to?

That place must be some shithole.
 
Dear the Star sports "journalists".

Your all a set of twats.

Merry Christmas.

DB
 
I made the mistake of opening that link on my phone and was stuck in an install application loop for a good 30 seconds. Another reason for this media dinosaur to die slowly, in fire.
 
Here's my not so open reply

Anyone is welcome to plagiarise this, if they so wish.

Both "sleeping Giants" ?
WTF?

Your time has come and gone, Cov.
The only reason you had any success at all was because of Jimmy Hill and his forward thinking. Otherwise you'd have been still languishing in the lower leagues as a third rate team vying with Walsall for the plucky Midlanders team of the year.

So, the objection to SISU is that they consistently sell your best players and won't invest in the club. And that's ruining you?
WTF?
That's just like 85% of all clubs in the football league. What the fuck makes you so bloody special?
Where's the money coming from?
It ain't gate receipts.

Last 50 years attendances averaging at around 18k - so we're roughly similar are we?
Fuck off!

Well, let's think about that statement you made about 34 in the top flight as opposed to 11 for the Blades. That's 21 year's difference - that's 21 years more of the likes of ManU, Arsenal, Leeds (yes, fucking Dirty Leeds), Villa, Everton, Liverpool, Man Citeh, Spuds, etc. filling your away end to boost your average attendance. Contrast that with your poxy away following and the small town support that have barely troubled the turnstile operators on Bramall Lane and you'll find that your average support is still several thousand lower than ours despite all your, so called, success.
(One FA Cup in 87 - well done and a good game it was too.)
Doesn't give you the right to be a set of self righteous cunts.
 
What is quite bizarre is the thought process of their fans....and in a similar situation to them all football fans. We have been like it for a few seasons regards our owner.

Football generally loses money. Not many clubs make money. Our owner is a fan, and has propped the club up over the years while we were making a right royal mess of playing football. He's lost millions, and unless we make it to the premier league is very unlikely to get anywhere close to his money back.
Now this tends to be the case for all clubs, but the minute their owner says "losing too much....cuts required" then the fans go mental.

My point is, why should they demand and expect their owners to add more money and lose even more? Are they doing their bit? Would they throw in all their income to keep their club going?...probably not!
So when SISU came in, they were in the poo. Their past owners had run up debts they could no longer service, and they were in the position where the only viable purchaser was this SISU lot.

They of course were happy that someone was prepared to save their club, and like all new owners they had grand plans for the club. And the majority of their fans believed it.
What a mistaker to maker!! Surely the fact SISU was a hedge fund should have caused concern?

A hedge fund is a group of investors who are looking to see their money turn a profit. Nothing else. The members of the hedge fund may not have any clue their money or some of it is even in a football club. They demand a return and don't care how. So why would the managers of the fund commit more cash to lose? Of course they won't, they will sell players to fund losses, replace with players they can afford and cut costs to a level that makes the club sustainable.
If that means they end up in the conference, then that's how it is. They don't care. They hope that a good manager comes in, unearths some players who cost nothing, get a side together and get them up. That way they make their money.
But if it were that easy, every club would be doing that instead of losing money!
So overall, not that dissimilar to our own owner who has reduced his losses, sold our best players and got us to a level he can afford to lose. He may have got lucky with the manager, and may see success this season. Acts not to say we have had it the same as Coventry, we haven't, but the ethos is similar.
 
Looks like one of the few clubs to make money this season is

Wait for it.

Coventry.

Their chairman said yesterday they have pumped in £70M in total and gone from losing £15M pa to expecting to make £1M this season.

Very similar to us with the exception that we will lose a bucket load of money again this season. It can cost a packet and you still get no succcess.

You have to get the managerial appointment right.

Still those morons will be on the pitch again soon trying to disrupt games and fuck up the opposition. Thank god we came away without an abandonment and with the points.

The FA seriously need to get a grip on them, they can only do it through fines and the threat of points deductions otherwise another visiting club could suffer and there is then a huge argument about points.

Extrapolate this to Bolton going there, we are also potentially affected if the game gets abandoned.
 
UnitedBlade said:
Looks like one of the few clubs to make money this season is

Wait for it.

Coventry.

Their chairman said yesterday they have pumped in £70M in total and gone from losing £15M pa to expecting to make £1M this season.

Very similar to us with the exception that we will lose a bucket load of money again this season. It can cost a packet and you still get no succcess.

You have to get the managerial appointment right.

Still those morons will be on the pitch again soon trying to disrupt games and fuck up the opposition. Thank god we came away without an abandonment and with the points.

The FA seriously need to get a grip on them, they can only do it through fines and the threat of points deductions otherwise another visiting club could suffer and there is then a huge argument about points.

Extrapolate this to Bolton going there, we are also potentially affected if the game gets abandoned.
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I heard that interview. He also said their wage bill was between £2-3m which he described as mid to lower end of L1.
Now I read on the epic accounts thread our gate income was £4m. I'm assuming that doesn't include sponsorship or the small amount we get from TV but nevertheless if £2-3m is a mid table wage bill, it's no wonder we struggle to balance the books and remain competitive.

What I don't get from their protests is what they actually want ? Apart from SISU 'fucking off'. Then what? Who have they got lined up to take over? Do they want to be a fan-owned club? If so, do they understand that they will have to break even every year? That they can get no external investment?

Until they present some kind of feasible take-over, by a consortium or some daft rich bloke, they're just pissing in the wind.
 
What is strange is that although Coventry are near the bottom of the league, they weren't that bad.
On paper, their players compare with any team in the bottom half. If they can get the right manager in very soon, I can see them finishing in the top 10.
As others have said,if the team was higher up, and possibly vying for a play off position, all this shit wouldn't be happening.
 
Exactly. Charlton are 4 points off play offs at the moment. Let's see how keen they are for a joint pitch invasion when they play at Coventry in March.

How piss funny will it be if Coventry are still in the relegation zone but Charlton are in the play offs and those twats get the game abandoned.
 
BushBlade said:
I heard that interview. He also said their wage bill was between £2-3m which he described as mid to lower end of L1.
Now I read on the epic accounts thread our gate income was £4m. I'm assuming that doesn't include sponsorship or the small amount we get from TV but nevertheless if £2-3m is a mid table wage bill, it's no wonder we struggle to balance the books and remain competitive.

What I don't get from their protests is what they actually want ? Apart from SISU 'fucking off'. Then what? Who have they got lined up to take over? Do they want to be a fan-owned club? If so, do they understand that they will have to break even every year? That they can get no external investment?

Until they present some kind of feasible take-over, by a consortium or some daft rich bloke, they're just pissing in the wind.
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Exactly.

Without looking the numbers up, our turnover is something like £9M including sponsorship catering etc. So about twice Coventry's so our SCMP wages will be about twice theirs.

We still continue to lose about £8M pa due to all the other costs ( should be less this year as we have a manger who knows how to build a successful squad).

Expensive business paying footballers and firing managers.
 
People should remember the Star's recent editorial lines re United on all important issues:

No condemnation for Wednesdays administration and ripping off of local businesses.

Tevez Affair: football should be decided "on the pitch regardless of any impropriety by West Ham or the FA.

World Cup bid: no opposition to Wednesday getting the proposed gig, despite bid relying on money from the public purse. McCabe had offered to fund the Blades bid.Also wider questions about propriety of Wednesdays bid not mentioned by Star, despite McCabe's comments

Focus on human right record of Saudia Arabia after the Prince got involved. Ignorance of human rights abuses of Thailand (Chansiri), Serbia (Mandaric) and Azerbaijani, after proposed takeover of businessman Hafiz Mammadov

No comment on animal rights abuses of John West Tuna, despite mainstream media covering it.

Ched Evans: no condemnation of any anti Evans chants before his first trial - including prominent "she said no" chants from Wednesday.

Condemnation of Sufc fans support of Evans, including a ridiculous article that sensationalised a few morons singing a minor chant for Ched. No mention was made of the whole crowds support for a recently deceased child on the same night.

Editors opposition to SUFC allowing the released Evans to continue his rehabilitation at SUFC once released.

No opposition to his signing for Chesterfield.

A succession of racist incidents among Wednesday fans, not being given the primacy that they'd have no doubt got if it was Blades fans involved.
 



UnitedBlade said:
Exactly.

Without looking the numbers up, our turnover is something like £9M including sponsorship catering etc. So about twice Coventry's so our SCMP wages will be about twice theirs.

We still continue to lose about £8M pa due to all the other costs ( should be less this year as we have a manger who knows how to build a successful squad).

Expensive business paying footballers and firing managers.
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How much does the Desso pitch cost to maintain ....... ;)
 
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