Wilder fighting with Plymouth players in tunnel

[Blacksea]

Nothing will happen this week. The next thing to happen will be his presser for the Cardiff match. His demeanour and words will be interesting.

Something will probably happen this week,,most likely the FA opening an investigation as to what happened,which could lead to a touchline ban before the end of the season

 

[Bladeslad89]

One week he’s lambasting a portion of fans for hurling personal abuse at the players, fast forward a week later and he’s hurling personal abuse at fans Heads completely gone and I’m sorry to say but he also needs to be gone

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Silly bloke fell for the goading. I bet they were high sixing each other afterwards

 

[The Fox]

All of this , from the Hillsborough monologue ,the Oxford rant ,feytin at Plymouth. I can't help thinking it's telling us there's alot going off in his head distracting him from selecting and preparing a team for the next game.
Somehow he's allowed himself to become distracted by nonsense , we've all been there at some time where our judgement and actions are effected negatively.

How he or the club get him and the team back on track ,focused and on point for Friday and the remaining fixtures is going to be a challenge . If they don't the season will spiral into nothing.

 

[The Crab]

I agree Chris is bringing our great club into disrepute, hes done wonders for the club but he his now making us one of the most hated clubs in the country.

I think it’s important to remember what he has done for the club, and that should always be recognised by us.

Which makes it all the more disappointing when his inner gobshite comes out.

Embarrassing behaviour of which you’d expect to see on a Sunday morning

 

[metalblade]

Wilder is the United equivalent of Gary Megson. How can anyone have any respect for him after the weekend? I hope as I'm writing this he is collecting his P45.

 

[Bill puntin]

I wonder what our new owners think ? They must think we’ve bought the Dog and Duck, we will be no doubt be find again and that will take total fines this year to well over quarter of a million pounds.

 

[Torrix1889]

I think it’s important to remember what he has done for the club, and that should always be recognised by us.

Which makes it all the more disappointing when his inner gobshite comes out.

Embarrassing behaviour of which you’d expect to see on a Sunday morning

Everything he did for the club is there on record but it was massively tarnished to many when he scuttled out of the back door with a briefcase full of money.

A good proportion of the fanbase, (me included) didn't want him back at the club and his behaviour this season both in victory and defeat has alienated him further to the likes of myself but it is also obvious that some of the "fan boys" are seeing through him as well.

Wilder could have had a legacy at BDTBL for years but like you say, underneath it all he is a gobshite, a Meadowhall Sunday League gobshite.

 

[derfblade.3]

Didn't end well.

 

[utd4ever]

There are so many piss taking videos now it’s unbelievable.

Well done Wilder “ Your one of your own”.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I think it’s important to remember what he has done for the club, and that should always be recognised by us.

Which makes it all the more disappointing when his inner gobshite comes out.

Embarrassing behaviour of which you’d expect to see on a Sunday morning

As I've reflected on this over the last 48 hours, I'm actually worried about his mental health. He's quite clearly 'on the edge' and people who react like that in the face of adversity tend to have other much more fundamental underlying issues.

 

[Badger Blade]

The only reason Wilder's here to start with is because he was out of work, we were in the absolute doldrums of despair in the Premier League and nobody else would have taken the job under those circumstances (Warnock's final, final, final hurrah!?). If Kompany had been sacked at Burnley, I very much doubt that Chris Wilder would have been first in the queue at Turf Moor to be offered the job.

Circumstances have now changed in as far as new ownership and challenging for promotion (notwithstanding the last 3 results). The ship has been steadied somewhat and while it's bloody disappointing to have chucked it away and fallen at the last fence like this against teams we ought to be beating, we're where we expected or hoped we would be.

Chris and his team have got us there but despite pretty much hitting expectations before the season started, when the chips are down, the dummy flies out and he tantrums like my 2 year old daughter with a stubborn response of "NO" whether its insisting on taking the dolls and the pushchair everywhere or, I dunno, benching Jack Robinson months ago or playing positive football more than once every half dozen matches. No excuse whatsoever to be parking the bus against Plymouth, only for Jack Robinson to let the handbrake off.

His behaviour has been embarrassing whether its spouting off in press conferences or the Plymouth incident. The celebrating in the pub after the Derby wins were amusing but its all a bit "pissed up uncle at a wedding" vibes.

Taking a lack of momentum and unrest into a play-off campaign is a recipe for disaster and the powers at the top are stuck between a rock and a hard place around what the next move should be. If we go up, we can't very well sack the manager unless the new owners are pretty pally with Jurgen Klopp.

If we fail to go up, I think a change of voice and approach might be good because from the position we've worked ourselves into, it would be pretty unforgiveable at this point for us not to be promoted. We tried it with Jokanovic but under a new regime with decent backing, going in a different direction might just work.

 

[Torrix1889]

As I've reflected on this over the last 48 hours, I'm actually worried about his mental health. He's quite clearly 'on the edge' and people who react like that in the face of adversity tend to have other much more fundamental underlying issues.

I agree mate, he has clearly lost the plot but he appears to be losing any sort of general self-discipline and control all round.

 

[Torrix1889]

The only reason Wilder's here to start with is because he was out of work, we were in the absolute doldrums of despair in the Premier League and nobody else would have taken the job under those circumstances (Warnock's final, final, final hurrah!?). If Kompany had been sacked at Burnley, I very much doubt that Chris Wilder would have been first in the queue at Turf Moor to be offered the job.

Circumstances have now changed in as far as new ownership and challenging for promotion (notwithstanding the last 3 results). The ship has been steadied somewhat and while it's bloody disappointing to have chucked it away and fallen at the last fence like this against teams we ought to be beating, we're where we expected or hoped we would be.

Chris and his team have got us there but despite pretty much hitting expectations before the season started, when the chips are down, the dummy flies out and he tantrums like my 2 year old daughter with a stubborn response of "NO" whether its insisting on taking the dolls and the pushchair everywhere or, I dunno, benching Jack Robinson months ago or playing positive football more than once every half dozen matches. No excuse whatsoever to be parking the bus against Plymouth, only for Jack Robinson to let the handbrake off.

Taking a lack of momentum and unrest into a play-off campaign is a recipe for disaster and the powers at the top are stuck between a rock and a hard place around what the next move should be. If we go up, we can't very well sack the manager unless the new owners are pretty pally with Jurgen Klopp.

If we fail to go up, I think a change of voice and approach might be good because from the position we've worked ourselves into, it would be pretty unforgiveable at this point for us not to be promoted. We tried it with Jokanovic but under a new regime with decent backing, going in a different direction might just work.

The owners may well need to realise that we are screwed either way and for me we need a new Manager and coaching staff next season, promoted or not.

Go up and keep Wilder then he is sacked by Christmas and we are left with a season of misery like last time around with a squad of Brexit Championship players.

Stay down and keep Wilder, it is another re-build job as a good few players will be off. One thing I do agree with the Pigs on is it will be a harder league next year. 3 strong teams coming down and a couple who will spend money, (Birmingham as well as possibly Wrexham) coming up from L1. Again, for me he will be sacked by Christmas.

 

[Hobgoblin]

The owners may well need to realise that we are screwed either way and for me we need a new Manager and coaching staff next season, promoted or not.

Go up and keep Wilder then he is sacked by Christmas and we are left with a season of misery like last time around with a squad of Brexit Championship players.

Stay down and keep Wilder, it is another re-build job as a good few players will be off. One thing I do agree with the Pigs on is it will be a harder league next year. 3 strong teams coming down and a couple who will spend money, (Birmingham as well as possibly Wrexham) coming up from L1. Again, for me he will be sacked by Christmas.

It is a shame isn't it that we have come to this, with a guy who dragged us from the ibis and with in a nats breath of European football with in 4 yours. Instead of demanding a statue in the car park we want him burned at the stake.

But you are correct he is screwed either way, get us up and he is gone we don't go up and he will be gone!

 

[Grey Blade]

As I've reflected on this over the last 48 hours, I'm actually worried about his mental health. He's quite clearly 'on the edge' and people who react like that in the face of adversity tend to have other much more fundamental underlying issues.

Whilst I believe there's been a complete overreaction to what people keep repeating happened on Saturday, I think CW is starting to show the strain as before.
Last time I thought he should have been given leave and returned refreshed for the new season, but having left the club he shouldn't have come back because it would always give some fans a rod to beat him with. Generally in life I believe going back to something isn't wise as it will never be the same.
Relying on crappy 7 sec mobile phone footage isn't a very reliable source of evidence but he doesn't help himself

 

[Torrix1889]

Whilst I believe there's been a complete overreaction to what people keep repeating happened on Saturday, I think CW is starting to show the strain as before.
Last time I thought he should have been given leave and returned refreshed for the new season, but having left the club he shouldn't have come back because it would always give some fans a rod to beat him with. Generally in life I believe going back to something isn't wise as it will never be the same.
Relying on crappy 7 sec mobile phone footage isn't a very reliable source of evidence but he doesn't help himself

He reminds me at the moment of the Wilder that we saw v Palace in the Prem when he "couldn't do this anymore"....what I can't get my head around is how we have ended up in this position in such a short space of time following what was arguably the best performance of the season v Coventry? Has something happened behind the scenes, has he lost the dressing room or have we just crumbled under the collective pressure?

 

[The Crab]

Everything he did for the club is there on record but it was massively tarnished to many when he scuttled out of the back door with a briefcase full of money.

A good proportion of the fanbase, (me included) didn't want him back at the club and his behaviour this season both in victory and defeat has alienated him further to the likes of myself but it is also obvious that some of the "fan boys" are seeing through him as well.

Wilder could have had a legacy at BDTBL for years but like you say, underneath it all he is a gobshite, a Meadowhall Sunday League gobshite.

Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I didn’t want him back either. Also for clarity, I took the opportunity to thank him when I saw him the other week for the things he has been a part of both in his last stint and, in part, this one. It would have served no purpose to share with him my thoughts on his less savoury aspects.

His conduct however is for me below acceptable. Out of respect for other people not directly involved, I’m not going to specify how I know, but having seen the antics of the company he keeps, it’s no surprise.

A phrase Dave Bassett (I think) used back in the day was I don’t sign players to marry my daughter, I sign them to win football matches.

I’d apply this in part, but having said that, wilder is more public facing than the players. Certain standards apply whether one agrees them or not.

My views on this may make me in the eyes of some, soft or a snowflake. I’d say I’m neither, but I’m certainly not a fan boy. Hope that gives a little clarity to my position

 

[s20Blade]

But no video....

 

[PageHallBlade]

As I've reflected on this over the last 48 hours, I'm actually worried about his mental health. He's quite clearly 'on the edge' and people who react like that in the face of adversity tend to have other much more fundamental underlying issues.

well we all know his views on peoples mental health issues when he gave the lefties rant last time
"I'm not bothered in psychologists or do-gooders or lefties,"

on one hand we bemoan footballers being robots and the passion being taken out of the game but on the other most fans would love to have manager who bleeds for the club Wilder just sometimes goes over the line he needs to sort himself out and get some help to deal with the pressures whether that is a psychologist do-gooder or lefty

 

[Davalon]

You don't have to spend long on social media or talking to fans of other clubs to see he's become a bit of a disliked figure amongst wider football fans in recent years.

Nothing wrong with that on it's own but he's allowed himself to have the spotlight put on him a few times recently for reasons that don't show him in a good light for many.

Recent days only prove how he polarises opinion amongst our fanbase which is a big enough issue imho but I don't under-estimate outside opinions and influences either.

Negative focus and criticism brings it's own pressure and can take away from spending the necessary time quietly working on what needs to be done.

Clearly plenty still lap up some of his antics and even thrive on us and him being disliked more than usual, but it's not about a desire to be liked, it's about keeping under the radar as much as possible and not having an unnecessary heap of criticism to deal with. No bones about it, we'll have loads more than normal desperate for us to lose out now and that brings a different type of pressure and animosity to deal with. Something he clearly doesn't deal very well with.

I thought his post Pig carry ons were tempting fate but that's just my opinion. His actions this week have not only brought unnecessary negativity from outside but also split the fanbase. Exactly the opposite of what we needed currently.

 

[Davalon]

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But no video....

The video is further up

 

[Tazzy]

I am with Chris, No one wants to be shouted at by a fat lad

 

[The Crab]

You don't have to spend long on social media or talking to fans of other clubs to see he's become a bit of a disliked figure amongst wider football fans in recent years.

Nothing wrong with that on it's own but he's allowed himself to have the spotlight put on him a few times recently for reasons that don't show him in a good light for many.

Recent days only prove how he polarises opinion amongst our fanbase which is a big enough issue imho but I don't under-estimate outside opinions and influences either.

Negative focus and criticism brings it's own pressure and can take away from spending the necessary time quietly working on what needs to be done.

Clearly plenty still lap up some of his antics and even thrive on us and him being disliked more than usual, but it's not about a desire to be liked, it's about keeping under the radar as much as possible and not having an unnecessary heap of criticism to deal with. No bones about it, we'll have loads more than normal desperate for us to lose out now and that brings a different type of pressure and animosity to deal with. Something he clearly doesn't deal very well with.

I thought his post Pig carry ons were tempting fate but that's just my opinion. His actions this week have not only brought unnecessary negativity from outside but also split the fanbase. Exactly the opposite of what we needed currently.

Nobody liked Warnock either, until he managed their club.

The difference there is that Warnock has achieved at most of those clubs, Wilder not so much.

My point being, you have to back up the bellendery with results

 

[Alan Birchenall's hair]

When its Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Roy Keane, Patrick Vieira doing all this stuff, its great 'cos it means they're showing passion. When its Wilder, its a disgrace. And its fuck all compared to Warnock's antics. But again, he was showing passion....?

 

[Alan Birchenall's hair]

Nobody liked Warnock either, until he managed their club.

The difference there is that Warnock has achieved at most of those clubs, Wilder not so much.

My point being, you have to back up the bellendery with results

Please tell me if I'm wrong, but I dont believe Warnock ever kept a team in the top flight. Blades and Notts County relegated in his only season in charge at the top. Wilder did at least manage a 10th place finish...

 

[KOPPO]

we know you love the blades tufty pal we all do but squaring upto oponents players after the plymouth away game wont do you no favours at all some now want you out just keep away from issues do your talking like youve done before when we WIN on the pitch your better then that buddy stuff them gaffer we will hammer them when we play them again just keep cool tufty and WIN THE PLAY OFFS buddy chow

 

[The Crab]

Please tell me if I'm wrong, but I dont believe Warnock ever kept a team in the top flight. Blades and Notts County relegated in his only season in charge at the top. Wilder did at least manage a 10th place finish...

You’re not wrong, that was one of his failings.

There’s a lot to be grateful to Wilder for, and your point is part of that.

I’m stepping back from this now as it looks like I’m Warnock’s fan boy. The truth is he was capable of bellendery too

 

[Pintor75]

I'm concerned about his health in the long run, he's a legend for what he's done.for us, tarnished by the walkout admitted and I'd shake his hand and thank him for that, but the pressure is mounting and I wonder if his wife feels the same when she sès him like this?, he's a millionaire, able to live the life most of us wish for, comfortable job managing the club he loves, yet he can't switch off from being a blade talking tough and being one of the lads, you've had a crack at the top level now give way to a manager with a more modern approach what's best for the future of your club. pack it in Chris and be one of the lads again without the pressure, let it go Chris or you might end up like poor Eddie Howe and others, I for one hope not

 

[Nick Jansky]

Please tell me if I'm wrong, but I dont believe Warnock ever kept a team in the top flight. Blades and Notts County relegated in his only season in charge at the top. Wilder did at least manage a 10th place finish...

He doesn’t get a free pass forever because of that. In terms of where we are, what’s happening now is far more important than what happened 5 years ago.