Those that want Wilder back.

[Millhousesblade1889]

Whether we get Wilder back in a few weeks/months is not the issue at present. It was a sacking that was risky and in my view unnecessary. However if we'd appointed someone more proven I could have understood.

I'd seriously be considering Rohl if Selles goes. My choice was and remains Dave Challinor from Stockport who I think has done enough in his management career to merit a big job. Unlike Selles or Gary O'Neil who are both unproven and were the board's choices.

If Selles goes I'd definitely be considering a Wilder return saying all that because he knows how to win football matches and the players know him and I think would welcome him to return. The players at present dont look to be playing for Selles, which never looked the case under Wilder.

What's most frustrating for me us that this situation is entirely of the boards doing. If this was baseball and I'd bought a baseball team I'd not sack a manager who has just done really well unless there was someone else I thought was better. Did the board think Selles was better or more likely they wanted someone who they thought could fit into their data driven system more because the board think that's the way forward. It's going to be a waste of season if we carry in much longer like this.

Agree with all of this other than the Wilder comment. There’s more managers out there that know how to win games beyond Wilder.

Cooper turned forest around & won promotion.
Dyche has won promotion from this league & survived in the league above.

Rohl turned Wednesday around and with a bigger budget would have probably got them in the play offs

My worry with the Stockport lad is it could be similar to the route Luton took with Bloomfield from Wycombe. Sometimes the jobs too big for the manager as Selles is showing

 

[Davalon]

Plucky little underdogs with a chip on their shoulder. British bulldog spirit? A lot of our lot are the Yorkshire Terriers of the football world. Game little fuckers but ultimately doomed to fail.

I find it genuinely depressing that we seem to have a notable number who actually believe a foreign manager will never work here.

That's before you get to the illogical part of that thinking.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I find it genuinely depressing that we seem to have a notable number who actually believe a foreign manager will never work here.

That's before you get to the illogical part of that thinking.

The same parochial, negative mentality that has held Sheffield back as a city.

 

[sheepbridge]

And also a massive minus when players who were clearly done and on their way down were given new contracts.

The ones that really got me were the ones like Rodwell and Ravel Morrison and also the ones, especially in the early days, that we chased for months and then hardly played. There were some very strange signings.

Every manager makes bad signings with hindsight, but some you could predict. Burke springs to mind in that as well.

 

[BigBed]

i couldnt see wilder turning it when he did. & i feel we are in similar situation, 10 years later


but then you look at 7 games v promoted team
Leeds 0-3 1-3
Burnley 1-2 1-2
Sunderland 2-1 0-2 1-2

P7 W1 L6, 6 scored 15 Conceded

& there were games like Plymouth H. that we were outplayed & somehow won. so maybe fortunate to get that total

But did we get hammered by Bristol, and beaten by, Birmingham, Swindon and Millwall??
Because I can stomach losing to premier league sides in fairness.

 

[Lane Ender]

One of the biggest myths on here is the amount of “hate” so many have for Wilder.

Many are critical, a handful have been very abusive, but the hate claim is from those that obsessed with CW they can’t even bring themselves to accept he has made wrong decision and pine for a return. Meanwhile, if they read what’s actually been posted rather than push their own take, as over at Pork Talk, many of those now critical have praised him for his huge achievements in the past.

“Hate” get a fucking grip.

No Blade could hate Wilder those four seasons were immense.

 

[ATL Recs]

Great post this, there's no way we would have 0 points after 3 games under wilder

With this squad bet we would

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

One of the biggest myths on here is the amount of “hate” so many have for Wilder.

Many are critical, a handful have been very abusive, but the hate claim is from those that obsessed with CW they can’t even bring themselves to accept he has made wrong decision and pine for a return. Meanwhile, if they read what’s actually been posted rather than push their own take, as over at Pork Talk, many of those now critical have praised him for his huge achievements in the past.

“Hate” get a fucking grip.

Oh come off it. I find it very difficult to believe you just happen to have missed all the really nasty stuff being posted about him. So disingenuous to claim this.

 

[reedy63]

Wilder for those who don't like Him, one question. Would he have lost four games on the trot?

 

[SB_90]

But did we get hammered by Bristol, and beaten by, Birmingham, Swindon and Millwall??
Because I can stomach losing to premier league sides in fairness.

Sunderland were underdogs in them 3 games

& as much luck favoured us in semi as it did them on the opening day. it alot closer than 6-0 made it look than if it had stayed 11 v 11.

 

[bartman]

But did we get hammered by Bristol, and beaten by, Birmingham, Swindon and Millwall??
Because I can stomach losing to premier league sides in fairness.

We did get hammered by Hull,Oxford,Plymouth and Millwall last season,thou

 

[JustLookin]

Wilder for those who don't like Him, one question. Would he have lost four games on the trot?

Dunno.

 

[ITALIANO BLADE]

its a myth why they gave him a 3 year contact in jan 2025 then axe him he wont come back only has a blades fan with these owners in charge he wont return he takes no fools its best boss ever its there loss hes gone out a kop god no one can do better

 

[KMC-1889]

I think there's a lot of players that you've managed to block out of your memory. I checked, and found that back in 2021 a newspaper did a compilation after he signed for Boro (https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport...is-wilders-sheffield-united-signings-22153059).

1 Mark Duffy
2 Chris Hussey
3 James Wilson
4 John Fleck
5 Jack O’Connell
6 Jake Wright
7 Leon Clarke
8 Simon Moore
9 Caolan Lavery
10 Reece Brown
11 Samir Carruthers
12 Daniel Lafferty
13 James Hanson
14 Harry Chapman
15 Ethan Ebanks-Landell
16 Joe Riley
17 Jay O’Shea
18 Richard Stearman
19 John Lundstram
20 Cameron Carter-Vickers
21 Clayton Donaldson
22 Ben Heneghan
23 Ched Evans
24 Jamal Blackman
25 Enda Stevens
26 James Wilson
27 Lee Evans
28 Ricky Holmes
29 Ryan Leonard
30 Dean Henderson
31 John Egan
32 David McGoldrick
33 Ben Woodburn
34 Kean Bryan
35 Oliver Norwood
36 Marvin Johnson
37 Conor Washington
38 Martin Cranie
39 Kieran Dowell
40 Gary Madine
41 Scott Hogan
42 Luke Freeman
43 Phil Jagielka
44 Callum Robinson
45 Ravel Morrison
46 Lys Mousset
47 Ben Osborn
48 Oli McBurnie
49 Muhamed Besic
50 Michael Verrips
51 Jack Rodwell
52 Jack Robinson
53 Sander Berge
54 Richairo Zivkovic
55 Panagiotis Retsos
56 Wes Foderingham
57 Aaron Ramsdale
58 Max Lowe
59 Jayden Bogle
60 Oliver Burke
61 Rhian Brewster
62 Ethan Ampadu

A lot of money wasted there. And that was before he went to Boro.

When you work out how many of these ‘good’ signings we actually made any cash on it looks even worse.

It’s an absolute myth he can spot a signing. For every good there’s two he brought in and fell out with.

 

[JustLookin]

its a myth why they gave him a 3 year contact in jan 2025 then axe him he wont come back only has a blades fan with these owners in charge he wont return he takes no fools its best boss ever its there loss hes gone out a kop god no one can do better

Better shut up shop then

 

[KMC-1889]

Wilder for those who don't like Him, one question. Would he have lost four games on the trot?

Yes. We did it last season under him and the season before. It also happened in his first season.

Factually, yes it did and could have happened.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Yes indeed. Out of 92 league clubs, why is it only Sheffield United who have a section of short vision, live in the past supporters who are obsessed about ex blade people being manager. Sick and unhealthy !

A good majority of fans don’t want to see Wilder back now, but we can’t ignore the fact he’s become a very easy measuring stick of where the club should be and how we need to be performing with this set of players.

 

[prescotblade]

I’m not sure Wilder-could motivate this team, the reality is it would not be his team.
There is a deeper problem within our club. Lack of spending built up over a number of years across all aspects of the club is coming back to haunt us.
The new owners need to come out and be honest with its customers of which we are. The reality of running a club the cost and a plan going forward.
I don’t want promotion because we are not set up to survive. Yes I’ll go to Wembley and be disappointed that we didn’t win but deep down knew what was coming if we were promoted.
The club needs to set a strategy for the club which will produce value for years and not just next year. It won’t be smooth and there will be challenges.
We won’t get relegated, and it would be great to be able to leap forward to May and see what is happening

 

[Sean Thornton]

Oh come off it. I find it very difficult to believe you just happen to have missed all the really nasty stuff being posted about him. So disingenuous to claim this.

Back that up with posts saying they hate him then.

If you use the search facility looking for “Wilder hate” you’ll find loads from the holier than thou claiming that thousands do. Simple to prove you aren’t talking bollocks.

Noticeable you’ve gone from hate to nasty. I’ve said there were abusive posts.

 

[ITALIANO BLADE]

no plan A no plan B i like attacking play

 

[ITALIANO BLADE]

Better shut up shop then

he said hed win every game he talks alot but no action i want attacking football not players out of position m8 we need wins pal them owners fault they jus sell sell sell dont get quality in to help him win i like ruben selles just wish hes win buddy dohis talikng on the pitch like kop god tufty did

 

[blade too long]

Who would be your second choice if he dropped dead?

Are you even capable of seeing beyond that dinosaur?

We were told Wilder had to go for producing boring wins
We have replaced that with mind numbingly dull defeats with no coherenrt style of play
Jurassic Park where dinosaurs are alive is far better than the current post asteroid collision that is Selles

 

[JustLookin]

We were told Wilder had to go for producing boring wins
We have replaced that with mind numbingly dull defeats with no coherenrt style of play
Jurassic Park where dinosaurs are alive is far better than the current post asteroid collision that is Selles

Other managers are available.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I’m not sure Wilder-could motivate this team, the reality is it would not be his team.
There is a deeper problem within our club. Lack of spending built up over a number of years across all aspects of the club is coming back to haunt us.
The new owners need to come out and be honest with its customers of which we are. The reality of running a club the cost and a plan going forward.
I don’t want promotion because we are not set up to survive. Yes I’ll go to Wembley and be disappointed that we didn’t win but deep down knew what was coming if we were promoted.
The club needs to set a strategy for the club which will produce value for years and not just next year. It won’t be smooth and there will be challenges.
We won’t get relegated, and it would be great to be able to leap forward to May and see what is happening

Sorry I don’t agree, I think Wilder had imbedded himself so deeply into this club, his influence on this current set of players has made it almost impossible for this team to move forward under a new progressive coach like Selles.
Let’s be honest here, Hecky was only successful because he identified the need to re-adopt the Wilder model again.
Yes, I want us to develop into a forward thinking club too…But Rome wasn’t build in a day, which is bad news for a young man in a hurry like Selles.

 

[BigBed]

We did get hammered by Hull,Oxford,Plymouth and Millwall last season,thou

We did, and still finished the season with 92points.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We did, and still finished the season with 92points.

And still in the Championship!

 

[Dkc]

A good majority of fans don’t want to see Wilder back now

How do you know that?

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

How do you know that?

Something to do with me signing the petition 25000 times, I believe.

 

[The Bohemian]

Actually, based on a poll launched straight after the Play-off Final defeat when emotions were very raw, a “good majority” still wanted Wilder to keep his job. It would seem fair to assume that “good majority” hasn’t got any smaller.

Thread 'Wilder In Or Out Poll'

May 24, 2025

I’m not sure what’s best, I think a fresh start next season has to include a fresh manager.

• William Carey
• Replies: 230
• Forum: General Blades Chat

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[Houston_Blade]

Facts are Wilder V2 isn’t a better manager than Heckingbottom, their points per game was the same (slightly worse in the premier league when he came back), but Hecky managed to actually get us promoted and beat the best teams in the league.

Heckingbottom had a better squad in the Championship though so there’s nuance to the discussion. Any team with Ndiaye, Berge, Doyle and McAtee involved is going to do ok.