Stop mentioning Wilder ffs

[ChipButtyBlade]

https://www.newsflare.com/video/122...s-wilder-sings-greasy-chip-butty-song-to-fans

 

[I should coco]

He’s not any sort of enemy to me. He represents the past. I’m much more interested in the here and now. That’s all that matters unless you support Wednesday where the past is something to cling to like a life raft.

So what I got from that, is that he represents the past and we MUST move on to the new era.

That’s very easy. You have said that I have never applauded any of Wilder’s achievements on this forum. You’ve made that up.

You may, or may not have applauded him. It may come as a bit of a surprise to you, but stupidly, I don't commit all of your wonderful posts to memory.

As you say though, that's all in the past.

Brave New World* and all that.




* It didn't end that well in Aldous Huxley's version, but I may well have made that up too.

 

[Nick Jansky]

So what I got from that, is that he represents the past and we MUST move on to the new era.



You may, or may not have applauded him. It may come as a bit of a surprise to you, but stupidly, I don't commit all of your wonderful posts to memory.

As you say though, that's all in the past.

Brave New World* and all that.




* It didn't end that well in Aldous Huxley's version, but I may well have made that up too.

Well it’s a fact that he represents the past, isn’t it? He’s gone.

And no, Brave New World isn’t one of the things that you’ve made up. That was Aldous Huxley.

Good to hear that I “may or may not have applauded him”. That’s a neat step back from your previous, fictitious, assertion. Well done, that’s progress.

 

[riselikeasalmon]

We've played one game

Please post on every thread
Thanks

Didn’t go to plan first game, it’s the managers job to make sure we improve over the next 1/5/10/15

Stats and performance were good first half

Disappointment was heads went down and I thought we’d keep going to the end which we were nowhere near. We’ll find out in the next 3 weeks which players are on the bus

 

[I should coco]

Well it’s a fact that he represents the past, isn’t it? He’s gone.

And no, Brave New World isn’t one of the things that you’ve made up. That was Aldous Huxley.

Good to hear that I “may or may not have applauded him”. That’s a neat step back from your previous, fictitious, assertion. Well done, that’s progress.

I mentioned Aldous Huxley in my post, so no points there for you. Some might insist on a deduction for copying mine and and not acknowleding the source, but I'm not like that.

As I said, I do not have a fucking Scooby what you've said about Wilder in the past, so quite how I'm expected to know everything you've espuosed, I don't know. You post a lot, all of it wise words I'm sure, but to be honest I really can't be arsed. How many of my old posts have you read?

You are a bright bloke (not a piss take), but this 'we must move on' stuff leaves me cold. Some of us can still savour the past and hope we have a future too .
Sadly, we seem to have lapsed into some 1984" world of 'RS good, CW bad' shite, where everyone who mentions Wilder is called a bedwetter.


*George Orwell, but you knew that.

 

[robbiez666]

My frustration yesterday was that it felt like every other comment was a comparison with him, both positive and negative. I'm not sure it's either helpful or healthy. We need to move on.

 

[Carlton Blade]

People can mention who they like, it's football

United got away with some horrendous home performances last season. Pompey shoukd have scored 4 in the first half, missed 2 open goals, QPR didn't let United have a kick 2nd half. But they rode their luck and got something.

Got punished 4 times, of which it was 2 very, very good goals and 2 horrendous errors. Everything after 1-4 was just waiting for the final whistle.

If it doesn't get better, he'll get fired. If United had regularly played like Pompey at home over all of last season, Wilder woukd too.

He gets a chance to rectify things, let's see how it goes

 

[Silky Sabella]

And didn’t AI ruin it? AGAIN.

Why, how

 

[Pintor75]

This guy writes for efl analysis always stirring things up about unrest at the club and mentioning wilder leaving, fans revolt over Robbo going etc, he's obviously a Wendy fan

 

[Pintor75]

Just click on his picture profile

 

[Sean Thornton]

This guy writes for efl analysis always stirring things up about unrest at the club and mentioning wilder leaving, fans revolt over Robbo going etc, he's obviously a Wendy fan

Reports on Wendy Ladies for the Star. Clearly a high flyer over there.

 

[MartBlade]

My frustration yesterday was that it felt like every other comment was a comparison with him, both positive and negative. I'm not sure it's either helpful or healthy. We need to move on.

You’re absolutely right about this… it definitely isn’t healthy and hopefully we will move on in time…. BUT….
There is a very large proportion of our fanbase that think the decision to sack Wilder was utterly ridiculous. Many of them would happily have Wilder back as manager today. The owners have set up this situation and need to hope that Selles and the players start to produce results rapidly … to justify their decision and to help us all move on.
Colours to the mast? I’d have Wilder back as manager today… BUT as that’s hugely unlikely, I’m hoping that things start to improve rapidly on the pitch…. and that COH turn out to be more than the potless chancers that I’ve suspected from the outset.
I won’t leave the ground early…I won’t boo the players or manager…I’ll be right behind them as I always am.
In terms of what is and isn’t helpful…. I think respecting and celebrating the achievements of an outstanding manager is perfectly ok… and surely understandable as it’s not exactly ancient history… and hopefully Selles takes some learning from many of the positives that Wilder created at our club. BUT I think it’s unhelpful and destructive to trash Wilder at every possible turn… objectively that suggests much more about the poster than it does about Wilder and will naturally really irritate the vast majority that respect his achievements.
I really hope that we get to view Selles with the same grateful admiration that I have for Wilder…. there were some positive signs on Saturday. He, the players and COH need to rapidly show that they’re up to the challenge.
UTB

 

[Working Class Hero]

You’re absolutely right about this… it definitely isn’t healthy and hopefully we will move on in time…. BUT….
There is a very large proportion of our fanbase that think the decision to sack Wilder was utterly ridiculous. Many of them would happily have Wilder back as manager today. The owners have set up this situation and need to hope that Selles and the players start to produce results rapidly … to justify their decision and to help us all move on.
Colours to the mast? I’d have Wilder back as manager today… BUT as that’s hugely unlikely, I’m hoping that things start to improve rapidly on the pitch…. and that COH turn out to be more than the potless chancers that I’ve suspected from the outset.
I won’t leave the ground early…I won’t boo the players or manager…I’ll be right behind them as I always am.
In terms of what is and isn’t helpful…. I think respecting and celebrating the achievements of an outstanding manager is perfectly ok… and surely understandable as it’s not exactly ancient history… and hopefully Selles takes some learning from many of the positives that Wilder created at our club. BUT I think it’s unhelpful and destructive to trash Wilder at every possible turn… objectively that suggests much more about the poster than it does about Wilder and will naturally really irritate the vast majority that respect his achievements.
I really hope that we get to view Selles with the same grateful admiration that I have for Wilder…. there were some positive signs on Saturday. He, the players and COH need to rapidly show that they’re up to the challenge.
UTB

I agree with every word of this.

It seems to me though that everyone is either Wilder in or out, which is no good for the fan base, when there was a far more common sense option that would have kept everyone happy. I get people's desire to move on and see change even if I don't necessarily agree with all the points, but giving Wilder the opportunity to go again wouldn't have meant he was here forever!

There would have come a time when we were struggling, either in the Championship or rooted to the bottom of the Premier League had he managed to get us promoted this season. THAT would obviously be the time to sack him. No one would have batted an eyelid. And if he doesn't get sacked, then that's because he's excelled again. There is no uproar or division amongst the fans with this approach. It's almost as if it's common sense.

Sacking him when they did has caused a messy situation that didn't need to happen, and put any new manager under a ridiculous amount of pressure. This season could now be really, really toxic because of that decision.

 

[MartBlade]

I agree with every word of this.

It seems to me though that everyone is either Wilder in or out, which is no good for the fan base, when there was a far more common sense option that would have kept everyone happy. I get people's desire to move on and see change even if I don't necessarily agree with all the points, but giving Wilder the opportunity to go again wouldn't have meant he was here forever!

There would have come a time when we were struggling, either in the Championship or rooted to the bottom of the Premier League had he managed to get us promoted this season. THAT would obviously be the time to sack him. No one would have batted an eyelid. And if he doesn't get sacked, then that's because he's excelled again. There is no uproar or division amongst the fans with this approach. It's almost as if it's common sense.

Sacking him when they did has caused a messy situation that didn't need to happen, and put any new manager under a ridiculous amount of pressure. This season could now be really, really toxic because of that decision.

Spot on

 

[brownblade]

I am bored having watched that dross….good luck with your Selles cult

Does everything in life have to be this crazy and divided and angry?

Everyone's gone mad.

 

[Silent Blade]

In fairness, the best thing for Wilder to do, if he wants to maintain his massive Blades less, is to go nowhere near the Lane for the foreseeable.

The last thing Selles needs is him appearing at games.

In 1974 Bill Shankly decided to retire but a few weeks later he kept coming back to the Melwood training ground because he missed talking to the players, the backroom staff and getting involved in training. The club asked him to stop going to the training ground and it was the right decision. Shankly regretted his decision to quit saying "I retired too early".

Yes it would be best for us if Wilder doesnt go near the Lane for a long while.

 

[Silent Blade]

You loathe Wilder with a passion; I don’t know why and it doesn’t matter, but that’s the truth.

Not true, we need to move on rather than living with the past.

 

[54yrblade]

In 1974 Bill Shankly decided to retire but a few weeks later he kept coming back to the Melwood training ground because he missed talking to the players, the backroom staff and getting involved in training. The club asked him to stop going to the training ground and it was the right decision. Shankly regretted his decision to quit saying "I retired too early".

Yes it would be best for us if Wilder doesnt go near the Lane for a long while.

Couldn't agree more. Eventually, the club and fans have to move on. The man who claimed to have reconnected the club became divisive in the end and he still will be for some time yet.

At least he's not been given an ambassadorial role, Fergie style, despite his often repeated 'this is my club' mantra.

It never was.

It was, is and always will be, 'our club.'

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

There was more attacking threat from United yesterday than Wilder ever showed.
He's gone for good get over it.
He blow is last chance in the play off final, he wasn't up to the job.
If he's that good how many offers to return to management has he had ?
My guess none.

You're hysterical

 

[brownblade]

Couldn't agree more. Eventually, the club and fans have to move on. The man who claimed to have reconnected the club became divisive in the end and he still will be for some time yet.

At least he's not been given an ambassadorial role, Fergie style, despite his often repeated 'this is my club' mantra.

It never was.

It was, is and always will be, 'our club.'

I don't think he was trying to claim ownership of the club, in fairness. I'd say Sheffield United "is my club" too.

 

[KMC-1889]

Surely you know how you’re absolute idiots ???????

You honestly believe we’d of lost that with wilder???

Vindication, wilder would not have let this happen.

Yeah wilder wouldn’t ever let us lose by three goals against a weaker team at home would he. I can’t think of a single occurrence of this.

 

[themaninblack]

Not true, we need to move on rather than living with the past.

What's not true? You always have to live with the past as your own frequent reflections on here show. I don't know anyone who is living in the past. I certainly don't.

I really enjoyed having Wilder as manager but that era is over and he wont be coming back; he's had his go. I'm right behind Selles and looking forward to what he can bring to BDTBL; yesterday I was talking to a friend with links to Reading, he says that Selles is widely admired there and did a fantastic job. Described his style as organised chaos, very much 'front-foot football'. I'm looking forward to seeing how we develop.

The overreaction to Saturday's defeat on S24SU is ridiculous; let's see where we are after a dozen games, by then we will have a fair idea how the season is going to go.

These are my views Silent Blade; whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant.

 

[Bladesman101]

Yeah wilder wouldn’t ever let us lose by three goals against a weaker team at home would he. I can’t think of a single occurrence of this.

Did that result send us bottom?

 

[Silent Blade]

What's not true?

Loathing Wilder with a passion isnt true. No Blade is like that. I am a strong believer in "Never go back".

 

[KMC-1889]

Did that result send us bottom?

Was it the first game of the season?

 

[Bladesman101]

Was it the first game of the season?

Is that the defence? No it was midway through the season and left us in the top 3 after the defeat. We’ve just lost 4-1 against the team wilder beat 6-0 over 2 legs

 

[Broomhall Blade]

You're hysterical

No im not, but i bloody will be if ever Wilder is in the frame to be our manager again.

 

[BladeByChoice]

Loathing Wilder with a passion isnt true. No Blade is like that. I am a strong believer in "Never go back".

Wilder Mk1 (in my opinion) the best manager I’ll see at this club in my lifetime, the Kop should be named after him, or at least a blue plaque where he used to stand as a kid.

Wilder Mk2 proves your point.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

I mentioned him once but I think I got away with it.

 

[BladeByChoice]

I mentioned him once but I think I got away with it.