Points Required For Survival

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'Quick Predictor'; give the fourth bottom team 1.5 pts per game unplayed rounding up any halves, this is the safe line.
Today (11 games to play) safe line is 42 pts.
2 Jan 20 (17 games to play) safe line was 46 pts.
31 Oct 19 (28 games to play) safe line was 50 pts.

That random sample seems to prove it (but it is a small sample!)

Looking at 02/03 (just looking at some random dates)
3 Mar 03 (9 games to play) 41 pts (doesn't quite work) Why? W Ham earned 16 pts from the last 9 games - top 5 form but the 2 teams above them Bolton and B'rum played even better.
4 Jan 03 (17 games to play) 44 pts.
25 Oct 03 (28 games to play) 52 pts.

Works for me - we're not safe yet!
Any questions?
 
The closest relegation battle has to be the 1927-28 season when on the last day of the season 13 teams had a chance of getting relegation. Wendy got 17 points from their last 10 games (2 points for a win at the time) of the season including winning their last game at home to Villa (photo below). If you look at Spurs league record for that season and if 3 points were awarded for a win then it would have been 53 points! We finished in 13th place

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Looking at those numbers...teams didn't travel too well in those days!
 
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Punk Blade said:
I now have it down to 55 points. Man City are also guaranteed top flight football next season; Leicester will soon follow. Here is a mathematically possible final table, with points required to hit the current target of 55.

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Wasnt expecting remarkable results from Watford and Norwich over the weekend! With Bournemouth losing two points over the weekend also Leicester losing three points, according to my calculations, the magic points number is now 54. Or is it still 55 to you?
 
Silent Blade said:
Wasnt expecting remarkable results from Watford and Norwich over the weekend! With Bournemouth losing two points over the weekend also Leicester losing three points, according to my calculations, the magic points number is now 54. Or is it still 55 to you?
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The question should be how many points do we need to get in Champions league.
 
8lade said:
Looking at those numbers...teams didn't travel too well in those days!
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Probably not helped by the travel arrangements. I remember from the late1950s going on the same train as the team (+ 1or 2 spare players and 3 or 4 staff), and the club secretary buying the tickets (cheap-day returns)in a queue with the rest of us, for matches at places like Bristol. Not ideal.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Probably not helped by the travel arrangements. I remember from the late1950s going on the same train as the team (+ 1or 2 spare players and 3 or 4 staff), and the club secretary buying the tickets (cheap-day returns)in a queue with the rest of us, for matches at places like Bristol. Not ideal.
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In 1967 a shareholder spoke at the AGM saying that he was shocked to see our players getting the train for our FA Cup 5th round match at Chelsea and said that many first division clubs had their players travelling in the club coach to away matches. He said that we should have a club coach. After the AGM the club then decided that for away games the players would travel by club coach.
 
I think a team might go down on 42 again this year. There's a lot of life down the bottom.
 

Silent Blade said:
Wasnt expecting remarkable results from Watford and Norwich over the weekend! With Bournemouth losing two points over the weekend also Leicester losing three points, according to my calculations, the magic points number is now 54. Or is it still 55 to you?
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Still 54 as the max for 18th, so 55 for certain survival.

I used West Ham rather than Bournemouth or Watford to go with Norwich, purely because they've only got Norwich still to play out of the teams to lose all their games in the model, so they could give up more points to those from 3rd down.
 
Punk Blade said:
Still 54 as the max for 18th, so 55 for certain survival.

I used West Ham rather than Bournemouth or Watford to go with Norwich, purely because they've only got Norwich still to play out of the teams to lose all their games in the model, so they could give up more points to those from 3rd down.
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Cheers, was fully expecting the number to go down after this weekend but there were surprise results! it always happens every season that in March and April when the top teams get the jitters and the lowly placed teams pull off surprises!
 
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Yes unexpected wins for West Ham, Norwich and Watford have shaken the mix up at the bottom maybe dragging Newcastle into the group who could go down. Norwich for me still have too much to do, Villa despite having a game in hand are in real trouble. One point separates the next four teams and Newcastle are just 5pts above the last relegation spot, could get interesting.
 
metalblade said:
Yes unexpected wins for West Ham, Norwich and Watford have shaken the mix up at the bottom maybe dragging Newcastle into the group who could go down. Norwich for me still have too much to do, Villa despite having a game in hand are in real trouble. One point separates the next four teams and Newcastle are just 5pts above the last relegation spot, could get interesting.
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So relieved we’re not involved...
 
Punk Blade said:
Still 54 as the max for 18th, so 55 for certain survival.

I used West Ham rather than Bournemouth or Watford to go with Norwich, purely because they've only got Norwich still to play out of the teams to lose all their games in the model, so they could give up more points to those from 3rd down.
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Now 53 according to my calculations, same for you?
 
If you are one of the posters who like to update others with the mathematical certainty of avoiding relegation points tally then crack on for me. I find it quite interesting myself, and please dont let other farts dictate what you should or shouldn't post (provided it stays within forum rules).

And for the umpteenth time for the hard of FUCKING understanding, NO FUCKIN ONE on here thinks SUFC will go down this season. We are all agreed we are TOTALLY SAFE. However some posters want to work out a mathematical equation each passing week. Why shouldn't they? Its their right as posters on this forum to do so. If your not interested, simply don't click on the thread.

I'm other words if you don't like it, tough FUCKIN shit. Some others do.

Oh, and just to be crystal clear. Everyone knows we are FUCKIN safe.
 

Can this be moved to the Other Football and sport board as it clearly has no relevance to Sheffield United.
 
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