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Now that we've been consigned to another season in League One, the planning for next season should begin. The starting point should be a rational examination of the squad:

Goalkeepers:
Keep:
Howard: I can only assume that Howard was signed as cover for Simonsen this season, with an eye to him taking the no 1 shirt next year.
Long: unfortunate scapegoat in the 4-4 draw with Exeter, where a mistake from Williams evidently shook his confidence. He's highly rated and should be Howard's understudy: although a spell on loan in League Two might be beneficial depending on Willis' progression.

Release:
Simonsen: Out of contract and reputedly a high earner, it's time for Simonsen to find the fifth club of his career. It's a shame that his time with the Blades ended with him blasting the 22nd spot kick over the Wembley crossbar but that shouldn't cloud the decision, which has to be to release him.

Defence:
Keep:
Lowton: signed a new 3 year contract in August last year and unless someone comes in offering a significant amount for him (£3m+), he should stay. Excellent offensively but needs to work on his defensive game if he's to make it at the top level.
Jean-Francois: sometimes you don't realise what you've got until it's gone; or in LJ-F's case, out for a year. Yes, he makes mistakes but he's quick enough to recover more often than not.
Collins: who would have thought that Neill Collins would become a defensive lynchpin.
Maguire: if he continues to develop next year as he has this year he'll be a class act. He might not be that quick but his reading of the game is excellent.
Williams: we gave him a contract until summer 2013 so he's staying. That is about as much as I can say about Williams.

Release\retire:
Taylor: out for a long time with injury and not at the same level since his return. A change of scenery would probably do him good too.
Morgan: again, out for a long time with a knee injury. He's been working on the coaching side and his reserves won the league: it's probably time for Morgs to hang up his boots.
Conneely: hasn't had the impact desired and will probably be released.

Others:
Kennedy should be looking to make the step up to the first team next season. A loan to a League Two club might be in order.

Midfield:
Keep:
Doyle: won over the doubters (including me) by excelling as the destructive half of our central midfield. Not playing next to Montgomery helped with this - they're too similar.
Quinn: as with Lowton, unless a big money bid comes in (in Quinn's case, £1.5m+) he should stay but we should be looking to develop him in the free role he had in the play-0ffs
Flynn: he is lightweight and needs to spend the summer playing football left-foot only but he is a good team player and, I would guess, not on a huge wage.
McAllister: should be looking to become a squad player as a minimum after shining on loan at Shrewsbury.

Re-sign
McDonald: highly unlikely but the fulcrum of our team. If a deal can be agreed that would be a huge bonus - he should be the best player in League One next season if he stays
Williamson: if the price is right. If his demands are too high, he should go.

Release:
Williamson: if his demands are too high
Ertl: I've put him down as a midfielder as that's probably his least-worst position. Comes across as a thoroughly nice bloke but footballing-wise he's been a waste of a wage.

Sell/free-transfer
Montgomery: our longest serving player but the time has come for Monty to go. I just hope that someone, somewhere will think he's worthy of a considerable Championship salary...come on Neil.

Others:
Harriot and Whitehouse should be looking to push on next year.

Forwards
Keep:
Porter: showed in glimpses that he's a capable League One striker. He's also the best target man we've got.

Release/free-transfer
Cresswell: he works hard for the team but if the rumoured salary is correct (£750k pa) he's far too expensive for what he offers. There's next to no chance of anyone wanting him though.
Beattie: a disastrous signing. No goals, two red cards - the latter when we needed him. Looks like he's going through the motions.

Others:
Evans: who knows. If his appeal is successful then re-signing him should be a priority but I can't see it happening.
Philliskirk and Tønne should be pushing on next season, perhaps supplemented by Ironside.

Obviously this is all budget-dependent and leaves us light on the flanks and up front which is where we should be looking to strengthen.
 



Your assessment of the players is spot on, though I imagine it's more likely than you suggest that Lowton and Maguire will be on the move. I also can't help thinking that if those young midfielders were going to make it, they'd have had more game time by now.
 
Agree with a huge chunk of that.
Disagree about Quinn and Williamson, yes they do have plus sides and along with McDonald are the players who are most comfortable on the ball but I still can't work out there best position. Not genuine wingers but less effective in the middle. For the wages saved and fee's received for selling I think we could do better. Also frees up wages for McDonald which must be a priority. I'd also keep coneelly as back up right back. He'll probably not be needed and will be by far the cheapest option as 2nd choice right back.
Wages saved from Simmo, monty, ertl, Taylor, Quinn, willo, Beattie, Evans and Morgan must be enable us to keep maguire, Lowton and hopefully kmac. Will need a couple of wingers and strikers and I think we'd be there or there abouts.
 
That is pretty much spot on. I was looking at the reserve team after reading McCabe's comment that the staff think there are a few players who are ready to step up.

Only a guess, however these stand out to me

McAllister
Chappell
Harriott
Long
McFadzean

The following look like they need to hit preseason running to stand any chance

Philliskik
Tonne
Ironside

Wish I watched more reserve team football at times.
 
I agree with most of it as well. I think Willo is gone. He's had a decent season, and I can see someone in the championship wanting him and they'll be able to offer more wages.

4 key issues for me and they all have big question marks:
  • Re-signing McDonald, I really hope we do, but I'm afraid of some team in the championship nicks him. Our hope is that he has gone under the radar of other teams (unlikely), or that his injury may put some off.
  • Keeping hold of Lowton, Maguire and Quinn. I know Quinn has his critics and so does Lowton for his defensive abilities, but those 2 add a level of ball control and passing which set us apart in this league. Combined with Macca and we'll retain enough footballers to keep playing the way we have this year - and especially at home that had led to a lot of points. If we're thinking about going up, we need to have the same home form as last year.
  • Being able to offload Monty and/or Cresswell. Simply for the space their wages will free up, I've no idea who will want them though at their current salary level. We might have to do a deal with someone where we do some sort of payoff to get their wages off the books (like the rumours which abounded for the Henderson deal).
  • Goalscorers, will be our main problem next year, Porter and Cresswell if we assume he's staying won't be enough, we need someone with pace and ability - and they are extremely hard to come by at what we can afford...
To have a squad big enough and with enough quality next season to compete again, I think we really need 2-3 more of the young players to come in and make impacts as you put in your list (likes of Kennedy, Whitehouse & Philliskirk).

I hope the shape of the team starts off something like:

Howard

Lowton
Maguire
Collins
LJF

Flynn
Macca
Doyle (c)
Quinn

Porter/Cresswell
A.N.Other

That would show a lot of stability from this season - but I have serious doubts about how we're going to get there.
 
Now that we've been consigned to another season in League One, the planning for next season should begin. The starting point should be a rational examination of the squad:

Goalkeepers:
Keep:
Howard: I can only assume that Howard was signed as cover for Simonsen this season, with an eye to him taking the no 1 shirt next year.
Long: unfortunate scapegoat in the 4-4 draw with Exeter, where a mistake from Williams evidently shook his confidence. He's highly rated and should be Howard's understudy: although a spell on loan in League Two might be beneficial depending on Willis' progression.

Release:
Simonsen: Out of contract and reputedly a high earner, it's time for Simonsen to find the fifth club of his career. It's a shame that his time with the Blades ended with him blasting the 22nd spot kick over the Wembley crossbar but that shouldn't cloud the decision, which has to be to release him.

Defence:
Keep:
Lowton: signed a new 3 year contract in August last year and unless someone comes in offering a significant amount for him (£3m+), he should stay. Excellent offensively but needs to work on his defensive game if he's to make it at the top level.
Jean-Francois: sometimes you don't realise what you've got until it's gone; or in LJ-F's case, out for a year. Yes, he makes mistakes but he's quick enough to recover more often than not.
Collins: who would have thought that Neill Collins would become a defensive lynchpin.
Maguire: if he continues to develop next year as he has this year he'll be a class act. He might not be that quick but his reading of the game is excellent.
Williams: we gave him a contract until summer 2013 so he's staying. That is about as much as I can say about Williams.

Release\retire:
Taylor: out for a long time with injury and not at the same level since his return. A change of scenery would probably do him good too.
Morgan: again, out for a long time with a knee injury. He's been working on the coaching side and his reserves won the league: it's probably time for Morgs to hang up his boots.
Conneely: hasn't had the impact desired and will probably be released.

Others:
Kennedy should be looking to make the step up to the first team next season. A loan to a League Two club might be in order.

Midfield:
Keep:
Doyle: won over the doubters (including me) by excelling as the destructive half of our central midfield. Not playing next to Montgomery helped with this - they're too similar.
Quinn: as with Lowton, unless a big money bid comes in (in Quinn's case, £1.5m+) he should stay but we should be looking to develop him in the free role he had in the play-0ffs
Flynn: he is lightweight and needs to spend the summer playing football left-foot only but he is a good team player and, I would guess, not on a huge wage.
McAllister: should be looking to become a squad player as a minimum after shining on loan at Shrewsbury.

Re-sign
McDonald: highly unlikely but the fulcrum of our team. If a deal can be agreed that would be a huge bonus - he should be the best player in League One next season if he stays
Williamson: if the price is right. If his demands are too high, he should go.

Release:
Williamson: if his demands are too high
Ertl: I've put him down as a midfielder as that's probably his least-worst position. Comes across as a thoroughly nice bloke but footballing-wise he's been a waste of a wage.

Sell/free-transfer
Montgomery: our longest serving player but the time has come for Monty to go. I just hope that someone, somewhere will think he's worthy of a considerable Championship salary...come on Neil.

Others:
Harriot and Whitehouse should be looking to push on next year.

Forwards
Keep:
Porter: showed in glimpses that he's a capable League One striker. He's also the best target man we've got.

Release/free-transfer
Cresswell: he works hard for the team but if the rumoured salary is correct (£750k pa) he's far too expensive for what he offers. There's next to no chance of anyone wanting him though.
Beattie: a disastrous signing. No goals, two red cards - the latter when we needed him. Looks like he's going through the motions.

Others:
Evans: who knows. If his appeal is successful then re-signing him should be a priority but I can't see it happening.
Philliskirk and Tønne should be pushing on next season, perhaps supplemented by Ironside.

Obviously this is all budget-dependent and leaves us light on the flanks and up front which is where we should be looking to strengthen.
mcfadzean the lad to watch out for next season guys. you heard it ere first
 
sorry buddy didn't see it...i'll agree instead ha ha

Just yoking with ya, from your post you know more than me, so would like to learn more. I am guessing he is more likely to play on the left hand side of midfield, what else is there? Do you watch the kids, what about Chappell, Harriott and Ironside etc;
 
I'd be quite chuffed if we lined up in August like this:

GK: Tommy Lee

RB: Matt Lowton
CB: Harry Maguire
CB: Neil Collins
LB: Evan Horwood

RM: Dean Cox
CM: Michael Doyle
CM: Peter Leven/David McCallister
LM: Stephen Quinn

ST: Richard Cresswell
ST: Andrew Williams

Substitutes

S1: Mark Howard
S2: Erik Tonne
S3: Chris Porter
S4: Matty Harriot
S5: Danny Philiskirk

New Contracts

Harriot
Kennedy
Chappell

Signings

Evan Horwood - 26 yo, Product of the Acadmy, Built himself a decent reputation in League One, Played 38 times (Scoring once) as part of team that kept 14 clean sheets.

Dean Cox - 25 yo, Right or Left sided midfielder from Leyton Orient played 35 times, scoring 8 times and providing 9 assists this season.

Peter Leven - 29 yo, Creative Central Midfielder, former League One sports writer of the year, chased by Millwall last summer, often touted as League Two's best player. 6 Goals and 11 Assists this season.

Andrew Williams - 26 yo, Yeovil Town striker scoring 16 goals in 31 appearances this season.

Outgoings

Steve Simonsen - Good shot stopper but his resistance to command the 18 yard box is a piss take.
Andy Taylor - Just not quick enough, confident enough or strong enough.
Lee Williamson - I think a lower end championship side will come in for him.
Kevin Macdonald - Same situation as Williamson
Jonny Ertl - Mistake from day one
Nick Montgomery - As bad as some think he is, A Champioship team will take him on for an "undisclosed fee"
James Beattie - Never go back
Marc Warren - Never seen him or heard any rave reviews
 
Don't want us to fill the team up with kids for the sake of it, however Kennedy, Harriot, Whitehouse & Ironside should all be moved into the first team squad. Big fan of Kennedy in particular.
 
Now that we've been consigned to another season in League One, the planning for next season should begin. The starting point should be a rational examination of the squad:

Goalkeepers:
Keep:
Howard: I can only assume that Howard was signed as cover for Simonsen this season, with an eye to him taking the no 1 shirt next year.
Long: unfortunate scapegoat in the 4-4 draw with Exeter, where a mistake from Williams evidently shook his confidence. He's highly rated and should be Howard's understudy: although a spell on loan in League Two might be beneficial depending on Willis' progression.

Release:
Simonsen: Out of contract and reputedly a high earner, it's time for Simonsen to find the fifth club of his career. It's a shame that his time with the Blades ended with him blasting the 22nd spot kick over the Wembley crossbar but that shouldn't cloud the decision, which has to be to release him.

Defence:
Keep:
Lowton: signed a new 3 year contract in August last year and unless someone comes in offering a significant amount for him (£3m+), he should stay. Excellent offensively but needs to work on his defensive game if he's to make it at the top level.
Jean-Francois: sometimes you don't realise what you've got until it's gone; or in LJ-F's case, out for a year. Yes, he makes mistakes but he's quick enough to recover more often than not.
Collins: who would have thought that Neill Collins would become a defensive lynchpin.
Maguire: if he continues to develop next year as he has this year he'll be a class act. He might not be that quick but his reading of the game is excellent.
Williams: we gave him a contract until summer 2013 so he's staying. That is about as much as I can say about Williams.

Release\retire:
Taylor: out for a long time with injury and not at the same level since his return. A change of scenery would probably do him good too.
Morgan: again, out for a long time with a knee injury. He's been working on the coaching side and his reserves won the league: it's probably time for Morgs to hang up his boots.
Conneely: hasn't had the impact desired and will probably be released.

Others:
Kennedy should be looking to make the step up to the first team next season. A loan to a League Two club might be in order.

Midfield:
Keep:
Doyle: won over the doubters (including me) by excelling as the destructive half of our central midfield. Not playing next to Montgomery helped with this - they're too similar.
Quinn: as with Lowton, unless a big money bid comes in (in Quinn's case, £1.5m+) he should stay but we should be looking to develop him in the free role he had in the play-0ffs
Flynn: he is lightweight and needs to spend the summer playing football left-foot only but he is a good team player and, I would guess, not on a huge wage.
McAllister: should be looking to become a squad player as a minimum after shining on loan at Shrewsbury.

Re-sign
McDonald: highly unlikely but the fulcrum of our team. If a deal can be agreed that would be a huge bonus - he should be the best player in League One next season if he stays
Williamson: if the price is right. If his demands are too high, he should go.

Release:
Williamson: if his demands are too high
Ertl: I've put him down as a midfielder as that's probably his least-worst position. Comes across as a thoroughly nice bloke but footballing-wise he's been a waste of a wage.

Sell/free-transfer
Montgomery: our longest serving player but the time has come for Monty to go. I just hope that someone, somewhere will think he's worthy of a considerable Championship salary...come on Neil.

Others:
Harriot and Whitehouse should be looking to push on next year.

Forwards
Keep:
Porter: showed in glimpses that he's a capable League One striker. He's also the best target man we've got.

Release/free-transfer
Cresswell: he works hard for the team but if the rumoured salary is correct (£750k pa) he's far too expensive for what he offers. There's next to no chance of anyone wanting him though.
Beattie: a disastrous signing. No goals, two red cards - the latter when we needed him. Looks like he's going through the motions.

Others:
Evans: who knows. If his appeal is successful then re-signing him should be a priority but I can't see it happening.
Philliskirk and Tønne should be pushing on next season, perhaps supplemented by Ironside.

Obviously this is all budget-dependent and leaves us light on the flanks and up front which is where we should be looking to strengthen.

As others have said, can't really disagree with your summing up, except to say we need a cb as cover. Maguire and Collins will not go through another season without injury/suspension. We have no specialist cover at the moment and is an absolute must

Flanks, strikers and a midfield playmaker is also required if MacD turns his back on us
 
Not sure why you suggest that we loan some of the 'development squad' out to a League 2 (4) team.

Surely if anything positive has come out of Saturdays result it's that we can intergrate some of these lads into 'our' first team. Lets face it, if they can't hold their own in League 1 (3) by now, they're probably no better than what we've got already.

I personally think that with the right blend of youth and experience we could have the best team that we've had in years. It seems only logical that having both a successful academy and reserve team must ultimately produce a successful first team? Anyway, heres hoping!

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I hope the shape of the team starts off something like:

Howard

Lowton
Maguire
Collins
LJF

Flynn
Macca
Doyle (c)
Quinn

Porter/Cresswell
A.N.Other

That would show a lot of stability from this season - but I have serious doubts about how we're going to get there.


Replace Flynn with a real winger with pace, and another pacey striker, and we're getting there.

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Replace Flynn with a real winger with pace, and another pacey striker, and we're getting there.

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Though I meant to add, I really can't see Macca being here. Fingers crossed.

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I'd like us to bring in players who we think can improve as they play for us. In general they should be youngish, meet the minimum requirements of athleticism and technique, but have some outstanding qualities as well. We'll have to accept weaknesses in such players, but this shouldn't be weaknesses that will make them unable to play at Championship level at some point in the future.

An example of a player that meets such criteria is LJF. Examples of a players that would fall short is Ryan Flynn, Danny Philliksirk (if he insists on being a striker) and Andy Taylor.
 
I'd like us to bring in players who we think can improve as they play for us. In general they should be youngish, meet the minimum requirements of athleticism and technique, but have some outstanding qualities as well. We'll have to accept weaknesses in such players, but this shouldn't be weaknesses that will make them unable to play at Championship level at some point in the future.

An example of a player that meets such criteria is LJF. Examples of a players that would fall short is Ryan Flynn, Danny Philliksirk (if he insists on being a striker) and Andy Taylor.

I agree. I think many would prefer the likes of Flynn to LJF - I'm the opposite. It's the players who have something they excel in that we can exploit that I like. Weakneses can be worked on. With Flynn, no amount of work will give him pace or athleticism. He needs to be paticularly skillfull to compensate, but unfortunately he isn't.

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I agree. I think many would prefer the likes of Flynn to LJF - I'm the opposite. It's the players who have something they excel in that we can exploit that I like. Weakneses can be worked on. With Flynn, no amount of work will give him pace or athleticism. He needs to be paticularly skillfull to compensate, but unfortunately he isn't.

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I admit he needs to get stronger, but I think if Williamson goes he should have a spell on the right before we write him off. When he came on against Stevenage in the league game he ripped it up, hugged the touchline and got crosses in. For a number of reasons he became more defensive during the playoffs. 1, no striker to aim for and 2 was tracking back more. I still think there is promise there
 
I think Flynn is one of the squad that'll benefit from getting a decent pre-season in him, I do think he's got something to offer us.
 
I think Flynn is one of the squad that'll benefit from getting a decent pre-season in him, I do think he's got something to offer us.
so do I Foxy. He wont be on as much as alot of them as well
 
Your assessment of the players is spot on, though I imagine it's more likely than you suggest that Lowton and Maguire will be on the move. I also can't help thinking that if those young midfielders were going to make it, they'd have had more game time by now.


I think its more a case of Wilson not having the balls to give them a chance. Now he probably wont have a choice.
 
Anyone on high wages should be released/sold/touted about. That includes Simmo, Willo, Monty, Quinn, McDonald, Cresswell. We need to make the most of what wages we can offer. For the wages those guys are on, we could easily double the numbers, from 6 to 12, and still have enough quality to get out of this league, and maybe even change.
 
Anyone on high wages should be released/sold/touted about. That includes Simmo, Willo, Monty, Quinn, McDonald, Cresswell. We need to make the most of what wages we can offer. For the wages those guys are on, we could easily double the numbers, from 6 to 12, and still have enough quality to get out of this league, and maybe even change.
Yes to get out of this league but then what? What we do bring in has to be good enough for the championship as well or we will be no better off
 
Yes to get out of this league but then what? What we do bring in has to be good enough for the championship as well or we will be no better off

Well as soon as we're out of League One, the Salary cap...65% of turnover...doesn't apply. The Championship aren't working with a salary cap at the moment. They are discussing a brea-keven policy which would mean you could not spend more than what your turnover is on wages. That would give us another 35% to spend on wages. We'd be able to improve the squad based on that. Plus another batch of players would be out of contract next season and the process goes round again.
 
I think Flynn is one of the squad that'll benefit from getting a decent pre-season in him, I do think he's got something to offer us.


So do I. The third division for 5 more years.

:(

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So do I. The third division for 5 more years.

:(

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I think it's time to be ruthless and clear about what kind of players we should look to build the team around, and what kind of players we should look to replace. Flynn has done a job and may be ok as back up, or in some games where we want a defensively hard working wide man, but I don't see the potential in him to suddenly develop the ability to get past full backs on a regular basis. It's a shame as he seems a nice guy with a good attitude, but we need to aim higher.
 
Completely agree Bergen. I'd rather have a winger who lacks technical ability, but has raw pace. For me, the fundamental criteria for a winger is the ability to go past someone using pace.
 



Well as soon as we're out of League One, the Salary cap...65% of turnover...doesn't apply. The Championship aren't working with a salary cap at the moment. They are discussing a brea-keven policy which would mean you could not spend more than what your turnover is on wages. That would give us another 35% to spend on wages. We'd be able to improve the squad based on that. Plus another batch of players would be out of contract next season and the process goes round again.
So you want to spend money we dont have on players for this season and then buy or get free transfers next year as well? The only players we should be getting should be better than what we currently have which upfront shouldnt be difficult now Ched isnt there
 

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