Unpopular opinion: the celebrations were a bit OTT

[N20 Blade]

Ah no, respectfully you (and indeed many others) have misunderstood me- nowhere did I suggest they can't celebrate, I just think its there is a thing called moderation and it can get OTT.

For example the same thing was said when clubs would put out DVDs when they beat their rivals in a normal league game, if we did the same that would fall into that category.

Yes, cheer, applaud the fans etc. but taking photos like we won a trophy is a bit much.

Edit: With the Ashes there's a whole interesting discussion on that which probably shouldn't go here (though I appreciate I started it), let's just say I doubt the Aussies would have done the same thing had the roles been reversed.

Post Packer, the Australian team have and will never go 18 years (we won in 86/87) not winning the Ashes. But when they win, they still celebrate massively, even more so the Australian media do, too. Read the Australian press before and after the Perth debacle, it's incendiary and adds to the difficult nature of the tour. When they regain the Ashes in a few weeks, they will celebrate on the field, with their fans, just as we did on Sunday. Quite right too.

2005 was the last year cricket was on terrestrial TV, and free to watch for all. It was also the best summer since 1981, and there was a bond between the players and public, that is unlikely to ever be repeated. The fact that the streets were full of celebrating supporters confirms there was a collective feeling of euphoria.

I don't think your analogy works, but it's an interesting point, nevertheless.

 

[The Crab]

While pig fans are a set of bellends. I’ve also heard Blades fans singing “die die piggy” as well. So it’s not worth getting all righteous about it. I don’t genuinely think people want opposition players to die, it’s just a song.

Both teams have idiots amongst their supporters, it’s nuts to claim otherwise.

Back to the OP, we absolutely didn’t over celebrate, they have a particularly high opinion of themselves as a club, we’d just battered them.

A disgraceful song sung by fuckwits on both sides

 

[Slugger]

Imagine not taking a photo of the team that just achieved the greatest away win, in a derby rivalry of at least a 130 years.

I'd add that Roy Keane is a cunt who deliberately tries to end careers over petty rivalries, and leaves his national team in the world cup shit because mick Mccarthy can't arrange the team camp to his expected standards. Twat.

And just in case there's still anyone giving Keane's opinion on team togetherness any sort of respect, a reminder of a lesser know fact....

Keane's 2nd game as assistant manager for the Irish national team coincided with a well-paid offer to fly to Paris and work as a studio pundit for ITV for the Champions league final.

No prizes for guessing what choice loyal Roy took.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Can’t believe Peck celebrated on his knees when he scored tonight, he should have apologised and walked back to the halfway line sensibly.

 

[FMBlade1]

Can’t believe Peck celebrated on his knees when he scored tonight, he should have apologised and walked back to the halfway line sensibly.

Can't believe you didn't read what I actually said...oh wait yes I can

 

[Houston_Blade]

Can't believe you didn't read what I actually said...oh wait yes I can

But he was expected to score the penalty so he shouldn’t have celebrated surely?!

 

[YES Blade]

What a colossal f'king sad existence.

We aren't going to make Europe, win leagues, push for Champions league football. This is us, and if you can't enjoy hammering your closest rivals away from home, then what's the point in supporting us.

Not going to make Europe? Look at the list of English clubs that have played in Europe. I don’t see why we can’t aim to get there and who knows we might even be able to win a major trophy one day!

Whilst beating Wednesday will always be great no matter how shit they are, this isn’t us. It isn’t really an achievement. We need to judge ourselves against the rest of English football and not just aim to be better than Wednesday.

 

[ReeceofBDTBL]

Not going to make Europe? Look at the list of English clubs that have played in Europe. I don’t see why we can’t aim to get there and who knows we might even be able to win a major trophy one day!

Whilst beating Wednesday will always be great no matter how shit they are, this isn’t us. It isn’t really an achievement. We need to judge ourselves against the rest of English football and not just aim to be better than Wednesday.

We took a photo of our players in front of our fans after the biggest winning margin over our rivals in over 70 years.

Do you think we've been spoiled too much with silverware recently or something? Not sure if you've noticed but we haven't won a trophy or a one off match of any significant for 100 years.

F(_)ck me

 

[FMBlade1]

We took a photo of our players in front of our fans after the biggest winning margin over our rivals in over 70 years.

Do you think we've been spoiled too much with silverware recently or something? Not sure if you've noticed but we haven't won a trophy or a one off match of any significant for 100 years.

F(_)ck me

Ok let's consider a hypothetical.

At the end of the season SWFC get kicked out of the EFL and are put down to the 10th tier of non-league like AFC Wimbledon.

We are drawn against them in the FA Cup away.

Their team are filled with youth players and non-league players on minimum wage.

We win 4-0, a historic margin. Is that a great achievement on our part?

Should we do a team photo as if we had won a trophy?

 

[ReeceofBDTBL]

Ludicrous comparison, if our team wasn't on it we wouldn't have won 3-0. They'd only won 2 points less than us so far this season, it was by far the biggest game of their season and it was at their ground.

You're trying to make out like it was a non-event and somehow doesn't count as a derby win which is utter nonsense. Yes it isn't as significant as the 4-2 in 2017 because of the situation but its still a great day for our club to assert itself as number 1 in the city and its only a photo ffs.

3-0, on terrestrial television, in front of a packed house of fans (who ABSOLUTELY thought they could beat us) and against a team who had got results against better teams than us. They didn't play the youth team against us and you most certainly did not expect us to play as well as we did because none of us did. We'd not seen the likes of Riedewald, Campbell or Ben Mee put in a 90 minutes of that quality all season.

Going off like we've won a trophy what the hell are you talking about?
'Woah ho hoahhhhh taking a photo in front of their fans that is craaaaaaaaaazy'

 

[Houston_Blade]

Ok let's consider a hypothetical.

At the end of the season SWFC get kicked out of the EFL and are put down to the 10th tier of non-league like AFC Wimbledon.

We are drawn against them in the FA Cup away.

Their team are filled with youth players and non-league players on minimum wage.

We win 4-0, a historic margin. Is that a great achievement on our part?

Should we do a team photo as if we had won a trophy?

I think you’re clutching at straws now, making up a completely random scenario to try and make your OP sound a bit less daft?!

The thing that makes the Sheffield Derby more intense than other cities is that we’re always in the same league when it happens. In my lifetime it’s never been a game that can comfortably be won by either team based on form or league status and has often gone the opposite way to league position and form.

They’d earned a few less points than us so far this season and it was at their ground. the argument that we expected to win and therefore we shouldn’t celebrate is absolute nonsense on that basis.

If you think otherwise you probably need to find another sport/team/hobby.

 

[YES Blade]

We took a photo of our players in front of our fans after the biggest winning margin over our rivals in over 70 years.

Do you think we've been spoiled too much with silverware recently or something? Not sure if you've noticed but we haven't won a trophy or a one off match of any significant for 100 years.

F(_)ck me

I never said I had an issue with how the team celebrated, I have no problem at all with how they acted on Sunday. It’s great to beat your local rivals and that should be enjoyed.

I have issue with posts that put the club down, that are negative and suggest we’ll never be able to achieve anything of note.

If Palace can win the FA Cup and Forest can play in Europe, I see no reason why we can’t aim to achieve something that similar sized clubs as ours have achieved.

I’m just saying we shouldn’t measure success with beating Wednesday or finishing higher in the league than them. We need to aim higher.

 

[JOEYDEE]

Can’t believe Peck celebrated on his knees when he scored tonight, he should have apologised and walked back to the halfway line sensibly.

Absolutely agree Sir,I left the ground after seeing this disgraceful behavior and show of unwarranted emotions in public !!

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

So when Wednesday fans and players celebrated a nil nil draw at Bramall Lane a few years ago, as if they’d won the F A Cup,instead of laughing our heads off at em, we should have sulked and complained to anyone who would listen.
We’ve never been that pathetic,Josh!

 

[FMBlade1]

I think you’re clutching at straws now, making up a completely random scenario to try and make your OP sound a bit less daft?!

The thing that makes the Sheffield Derby more intense than other cities is that we’re always in the same league when it happens. In my lifetime it’s never been a game that can comfortably be won by either team based on form or league status and has often gone the opposite way to league position and form.

They’d earned a few less points than us so far this season and it was at their ground. the argument that we expected to win and therefore we shouldn’t celebrate is absolute nonsense on that basis.

If you think otherwise you probably need to find another sport/team/hobby.

No not at all, I was taking other people's arguments to their logical conclusion. The match over the weekend was not a normal one played under normal circumstances and it would be churlish to suggest otherwise. The fact that we were only two points ahead of them is to our shame, and our poor season is why our previous manager was sacked after only 6 games.

We should have been comfortable favourites, and we won comfortably. Yes we can celebrate, but 'great achievement' it is not.

ReeceofBDTBL many neutral football fans had the same reaction to this, you can disagree with them for sure or don't care for sure but doesn't mean the view isn't well founded or sincere:

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

No not at all, I was taking other people's arguments to their logical conclusion. The match over the weekend was not a normal one played under normal circumstances and it would be churlish to suggest otherwise. The fact that we were only two points ahead of them is to our shame, and our poor season is why our previous manager was sacked after only 6 games.

We should have been comfortable favourites, and we won comfortably. Yes we can celebrate, but 'great achievement' it is not.

ReeceofBDTBL many neutral football fans had the same reaction to this, you can disagree with them for sure or don't care for sure but doesn't mean the view isn't well founded or sincere:

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Bit of a silly hypothetical but the answer is yes of course we should take a picture. Someone already showed you Newcastle doing it at Sunderland after you specifically said they never would.

This is one of the worst takes ever and there's about 3 others on the entire forum who agree with you. I just dont think you get it when it comes to derbies.

 

[FMBlade1]

Bit of a silly hypothetical but the answer is yes of course we should take a picture. Someone already showed you Newcastle doing it at Sunderland after you specifically said they never would.

This is one of the worst takes ever and there's about 3 others on the entire forum who agree with you. I just dont think you get it when it comes to derbies.

10 likes on the OP, and 130 likes on a post below immediately disagreeing with me, I acknowledged in the OP that I knew it would a minority view and I stated that again later on (circa 3-5%). Its a forum, its fine to have different views.

The other point I raised earlier, when Man U would thrash Man City under Fergie no-one would bat an eyelid and they would clap their fans as usual and head down the tunnel without taking a group photo.

That's what I want, indeed what we all want, that we normalize beating them so heavily and have high standards that we should expect to win each time and act accordingly.

Yes I got owned for the Newcastle point but looking back people mocked that as well and I think they also shouldn't have done it, in the same way that it was OTT for the England 2005 Ashes squad to have been give MBEs.

Fair play for engaging with the hypothetical, but I would find taking a team photo like the above after beating a non-league side a little odd.

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

I just dont think you get it when it comes to derbies.

This ^^

Compounded, I suspect, in this case, by watching the game remotely on the box.

I’d be very surprised if any blades in the ground on Sunday felt that the team’s celebrations were OTT.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

10 likes on the OP, and 130 likes on a post below immediately disagreeing with me, I acknowledged in the OP that I knew it would a minority view and I stated that again later on (circa 3-5%). Its a forum, its fine to have different views.

The other point I raised earlier, when Man U would thrash Man City under Fergie no-one would bat an eyelid and they would clap their fans as usual and head down the tunnel without taking a group photo.

That's what I want, indeed what we all want, that we normalize beating them so heavily and have high standards that we should expect to win each time and act accordingly.

Yes I got owned for the Newcastle point but looking back people mocked that as well and I think they also shouldn't have done it, in the same way that it was OTT for the England 2005 Ashes squad to have been give MBEs.

Fair play for engaging with the hypothetical, but I would find taking a team photo like the above after beating a non-league side a little odd.

The man utd comparison is quite daft. You dont want us to celebrate beating Wednesday because man utd didn't used to celebrate beating man city when they were one of the best teams in the world.

You say beating a non league side but it would be Sheffield Wednesday we're beating still. So yes take a picture.

Like I say you obviously don't get it so good luck to you.

 

[FMBlade1]

The man utd comparison is quite daft. You dont want us to celebrate beating Wednesday because man utd didn't used to celebrate beating man city when they were one of the best teams in the world.

You say beating a non league side but it would be Sheffield Wednesday we're beating still. So yes take a picture.

Like I say you obviously don't get it so good luck to you.

What's really quite daft is that you, and several others, do not get that I did not say 'we' shouldn't celebrate. I have clarified/stated that several times.

The phrase was 'ott' and in reference to the players and management.

We won again last night and hopefully turned a corner, I'm not going to back down but nor do I think its conducive continuing this commentary any further.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

What's really quite daft is that you, and several others, do not get that I did not say 'we' shouldn't celebrate. I have clarified/stated that several times.

No I get it. You're doing that thing where you say its because your attitude is we should be the best. We all want that its just never ever going to be the case. You dont have higher standards than others you're just being quite ridiculous imo but ye lets move on from this horrific take.

Hops our celebrations last night were acceptable.

 

[bornablade]

10 likes on the OP, and 130 likes on a post below immediately disagreeing with me, I acknowledged in the OP that I knew it would a minority view and I stated that again later on (circa 3-5%). Its a forum, its fine to have different views.

The other point I raised earlier, when Man U would thrash Man City under Fergie no-one would bat an eyelid and they would clap their fans as usual and head down the tunnel without taking a group photo.

That's what I want, indeed what we all want, that we normalize beating them so heavily and have high standards that we should expect to win each time and act accordingly.

Yes I got owned for the Newcastle point but looking back people mocked that as well and I think they also shouldn't have done it, in the same way that it was OTT for the England 2005 Ashes squad to have been give MBEs.

Fair play for engaging with the hypothetical, but I would find taking a team photo like the above after beating a non-league side a little odd.

A couple of points about Manchester.

(1). A huge amount of the Man Utd fan base don't live in Manchester. They have not grown up with a two team rivalry. They don't understand the city where their team plays.
My passion for wanting to beat Wednesday started back in the school playground. The arrogance of taking the piss out of our 3 sided ground compared to their brand new World Cup venue. If you're not from a city how can you understand that and develop that rivalry? (Their arrogance still persists today).

It always makes me smile when I see these manufactured 'derbies' - Ipswich v Norwich, Palace v Brighton, Forest v Derby and the classic a couple of weeks ago Wrexham v Cardif. FFS

(2). For years Man Utd showed very little concern about Man City due to the fact they believed they were leagues ahead of them. Their concern was Liverpool. They were their arch rivals.

(Similarly Liverpool don't really care about Everton. They see their rivals as Man Utd).

We have a unique rivalry in Sheffield. Of course those that criticise have never lived in a similar situation and therefore don't understand.

On Sunday I was under the impression our fans were locked in at the final whistle until the streets were clear.
How much criticism would the club received if they'd just gone straight down the tunnel and left our fans in the ground waiting to be let out?
I think we're in this together.

 

[ancientblade]

to be honest if they beat us at the lane in february it wouldnt bother me if they celebrated the same good luck to em pig fans are just whingeing because they know their team were awful and showed little fight on the day but i think theres another aspect here united have been awful all season and to get a win in that manner on local rivals turf and in front of a hostile crowd has to have meant so much to the players and staff

 

[LBA_Blade]

No not at all, I was taking other people's arguments to their logical conclusion. The match over the weekend was not a normal one played under normal circumstances and it would be churlish to suggest otherwise. The fact that we were only two points ahead of them is to our shame, and our poor season is why our previous manager was sacked after only 6 games.

We should have been comfortable favourites, and we won comfortably. Yes we can celebrate, but 'great achievement' it is not.

ReeceofBDTBL many neutral football fans had the same reaction to this, you can disagree with them for sure or don't care for sure but doesn't mean the view isn't well founded or sincere:

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On the flip side, sending it out there again as a counter argument, ignoring the result, the team and standard of opposition. When we have a Squad photo for the year last year presumably because of the sponsors debacle it wasn't officially released on the SUFC Facebook site until 04/12/2024. I can't seem to find one for this season, but say if that was taken in August, look at how many newcomers there have been. Quite good to have a new Squad photo with the fans in the background too

 

[Houston_Blade]

No not at all, I was taking other people's arguments to their logical conclusion. The match over the weekend was not a normal one played under normal circumstances and it would be churlish to suggest otherwise. The fact that we were only two points ahead of them is to our shame, and our poor season is why our previous manager was sacked after only 6 games.

We should have been comfortable favourites, and we won comfortably. Yes we can celebrate, but 'great achievement' it is not.

ReeceofBDTBL many neutral football fans had the same reaction to this, you can disagree with them for sure or don't care for sure but doesn't mean the view isn't well founded or sincere:

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We need a ‘What would FMBlade1 ‘ do approach to celebrations then.

It’s the internet so you won’t admit it’s a daft take and seem to be doubling down on it for the sake of being contrary.

Some bloke on twitter agreeing with you must make it a valid point.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Hope you strutted into Cock Inn with a big smile.

Used to be my stomping ground so know a fair few pigs in there

I live about 200 yards from it. Used to be run by a former OCS guy.

 

[FMBlade1]

We need a ‘What would FMBlade1 ‘ do approach to celebrations then.

It’s the internet so you won’t admit it’s a daft take and seem to be doubling down on it for the sake of being contrary.

Some bloke on twitter agreeing with you must make it a valid point.

Nope, just sticking to my original position.

The person posting the same point on social media to which I referred had over 2,400 people agreeing with them.

As I said in the OP, yes celebrate but there is something called moderation, being a bit humble and recognizing that it was not a derby played in normal circumstances. The photo was OTT- its not a crime and I'm not castigating anyone for it, just saying that it was a bit much.

 

[nopigfansintown]

The celebrations have been nowhere near big enough! We've moved on far too quickly! Please continue to bait your piggy associates everyone.
No mercy!

 

[Rusty view]

I live about 200 yards from it. Used to be run by a former OCS guy.

Malcolm?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Malcolm?

Yup. Horrible man. I stopped going in for a few years after he called me a nigger lover.