Phipps 'tired of being abused win, lose or draw'

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Shalom

Or Shaylom as they say in downtown Queens (Road)

 

[Worksop_Blade]

We shouldn't be dominating we have to earn it. This board have chucked a Hell of a lot of money at it to for us to earn that right. They want the same as us. don't punish them for the past fuck ups. I'm guessing you wanted Blackwell, Wilson out, clough out ?? No instant success so let's force em out? Let's build something and earn the right to dominate.

This "set up" has had 3 years to build a progressive transfer/player policy that could continue dependant on whether the coach changes. It hasn't and we are getting out performed both on and off the pitch by Burton, Walsall, Gillingham and Coventry City

The plan was there from season 1, sign the division's best players and play direct attacking football, The Pigs did it, Wolves did it, Bristol City did it, Wigan are doing it, this club has never done this, it constantly tries to sign players from reserve teams in the Championship or Premier League, neither of those divisions are the division we find ourselves in.

We are on course for another year in League One, have we progressed in the last 3 years?

 

[Blade82]

Or Shaylom as they say in downtown Queens (Road)

Or chaise longue as they say in Dfs

 

[Large Mendonca]

This "set up" has had 3 years to build a progressive transfer/player policy that could continue dependant on whether the coach changes. It hasn't and we are getting out performed both on and off the pitch by Burton, Walsall, Gillingham and Coventry City

The plan was there from season 1, sign the division's best players and play direct attacking football, The Pigs did it, Wolves did it, Bristol City did it, Wigan are doing it, this club has never done this, it constantly tries to sign players from reserve teams in the Championship or Premier League, neither of those divisions are the division we find ourselves in.

We are on course for another year in League One, have we progressed in the last 3 years?

I tend to agree with everything you've said, but I think tagging Jim in the tweet is being seen as provocation. He's had a bit of a flounce though, which surprises me - maybe he's getting to the end of his tether !

 

[Blade82]

This "set up" has had 3 years to build a progressive transfer/player policy that could continue dependant on whether the coach changes. It hasn't and we are getting out performed both on and off the pitch by Burton, Walsall, Gillingham and Coventry City

The plan was there from season 1, sign the division's best players and play direct attacking football, The Pigs did it, Wolves did it, Bristol City did it, Wigan are doing it, this club has never done this, it constantly tries to sign players from reserve teams in the Championship or Premier League, neither of those divisions are the division we find ourselves in.

We are on course for another year in League One, have we progressed in the last 3 years?

God knows where we would be now if Jim and abdullah hadnthave stepped in. They got clough in and turned it around. They backed him and were willing to sack him to get Adkins in (fans choice). We have to give Adkins the chance to turn us around. We were fucked before these lot stepped in, heading for lg2, so yes there has been progress just not as quickly as we all hoped or expected

 

[Bladesway]

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In summary my reasons for thinking Twitter is just wank. I don't know why you wrote that and I don't know why he responded. No one is better off for this transaction. He is clearly as frustrated as you are.

 

[metalblade]

I tend to agree with everything you've said, but I think tagging Jim in the tweet is being seen as provocation. He's had a bit of a flounce though, which surprises me - maybe he's getting to the end of his tether !

It does not surprise me that Jim has had a flounce and launched his rattle that is what he does in my experience. Earlier in the season I think it could have been after Colchester gave us a football lesson at the lane I wrote my thoughts on Jim's facebook page, no swearing, no abuse and nothing personal. I can only assume Jim didn't like or agree with my thoughts on the state of the club as next morning I found I was no longer on his friends list. Jim only seems to like to engage with the people who suck up to him and constantly tell him what a fine job he and the rest of the board are doing keeping this fine club treading water in league one.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Aside from everything the initial post doesn't seem like abuse? Sarcasm yes but doesn't seem abusive.

Phipps deletes anyone on Facebook / Twitter who question the club in rational terms so I would assume he has no qualms in deleting 'abusive' posters anyway.

My misdemeanour was to ask after Port Vale last Boxing Day when we would be signing a centre half. Funnily enough over 12 months later I could arguably be asking the same question.

 

[Bladepicker]

While I agree that we should be beating the likes of Colchester away, at 4.55 I was still on a high after a last minute winner and checking the table to see where the win had put us.

I don't understand why in the aftermath of a last minute winner your first thought was "I must go on social media and make a sarcastic comment about how shit we are to our chairman'.

It's exactly why Jim should not be on Twitter (not in a replying capacity anyway) as I'd have told you to get lost too.

 

[Jan Age]

I just tweeted Jim to say I would be unfollowing him.

The Tweet was along the lines of; thanks for the effort, the experiment hadn't worked, fans should converse with fans, the arguments every Saturday are embarrassing, his focus would be better spent elsewhere, thanks again.

My battery then died. When I plugged it back in (2 mins later) ... I am now blocked from Jim's account.

No great shakes but I wouldn't say anything in my Tweet was offensive or deserved blocking for.

 

[judge]

Nobody needs to hear his bullshit except the sycophants who follow him and think acting like one of floyd mayweathers entourage is acceptable behaviour for receipt of a pat on the head and some indecipherable brent speak from a guy who knows about as much about soccerball as i do middle east politics

Hes our american strafford

 

[LoughboroBlade]

You've got to have a thick skin to be a well-known individual on Twitter, even if it's someone that's only slightly known to a particular group – that's magnified in football where opinions run high. From his point of view, this has been an optional add-on to his role with us – he never had to do it, does it during his free-time outside normal work hours, and I genuinely believe he's wanted to because he's wanted to engage with us. He has people daily on at him about signings, the players, the manager, questioning the investment etc. I think I'd have lasted a month before thinking it a mistake – I'm amazed he's managed to last this long and still maintain a level of calm. He probably does think there's no pleasing us. Consider the last year on Twitter:

- bring back Brayford, Jim!
- why bring back Brayford instead of a centre half, Jim?!
- where's the Maguire money?!
- sack Clough, he's useless!
- appoint Adkins, he's great!
- bring Billy back, Jim!
- where's the Murphy money?!
- why aren't we signing Dean Hammond? He's just what we need, Jim! (repeated weekly)
- Adkins is useless, we're not winning, he's got to go Jim!
- Billy's useless, he's not scoring - get a new striker in Jim!
- Hammond is awful, we need to send him back Jim!

Etc.

I think he cares, I think he's frustrated that this football club malarkey isn't quite as simple as everyone hoped it would be, and that he's trying hard to succeed. But it's not pretty seeing our club Chairman react so. It's completely understandable, but makes us look amateurish – he'd be well-advised to remove himself. He wouldn't be the first person associated with the club to shut down their Twitter account in response to the feedback they're getting.

 

[robbiez666]

I think us Brits are far less tolerant of his kind of bullshit spin. All hot air. If we actually saw promises being honoured and actual promised investment in the team being made, he may get an easier ride. There will always be idiots on twitter regardless though.

 

[Caseh]

I think us Brits are far less tolerant of his kind of bullshit spin. All hot air. If we actually saw promises being honoured and actual promised investment in the team being made, he may get an easier ride. There will always be idiots on twitter regardless though.

The kind of shit that gets thrown his way shouldn't be happening, whether he is full of bullshit spin or not. It's vile and totally out of order. The people that do it are a total embarrassment to this club, and all its sensible, non scummy fans.

 

[Jan Age]

I've said it before the lines should not be blurred between fans and chairman.

Nobody benefits in any way shape or form.

Neither should he be following players.

 

[judge]

The kind of shit that gets thrown his way shouldn't be happening, whether he is full of bullshit spin or not. It's vile and totally out of order. The people that do it are a total embarrassment to this club, and all its sensible, non scummy fans.

It was a bit of sarcasm from a fan
Easily ignored and hardly "vile " or "scummy "

If he doesnt like dealing with overreactions from.people then
A ) get out of football
B) get off twitter


As a point of interest i once sent jim a tweet
( my one and only ) asking him what i should have for lunch as a kind of satirical send up of some of the moronic sycopphantic questions he gets asked on there by zombified sheep

His response was one of a guy a bit puzzled and bemused which is fair enough
I then got absoloutely inundated with personal and "vile " abuse ( actually vile not just drama queen vile ) from dickheads on there apopleptic that i dare to take the piss ( however mildly )out of king jim their lord and saviour

Wankers the lot of em

 

[Whiston Blade]

The kind of shit that gets thrown his way shouldn't be happening, whether he is full of bullshit spin or not. It's vile and totally out of order. The people that do it are a total embarrassment to this club, and all its sensible, non scummy fans.

Is there any difference between people hurling abuse at Jim on Twitter and people hurling abuse at a manager, player or board members sat in the South Stand ? All those have happened at one time or another yet Jim gets a six page thread. I don't condone it but it's seems odd that abuse to certain people is OK yet wrong when it's directed at someone else.

 

[PeteBlade]

It was me that Jim had the meltdown with earlier.

I sent a bit of sarcastic tweet at the end of today's match implying we had beaten a divisional powerhouse (this is after NA spent all week calling 2nd bottom Colchester dangerous ffs) and that I bet Jim is mega proud.

The Co-Chairman of our football club replied with:

"I am sure I don't deserve your silly abuse, pal. I'm glad to get the 3 points. Let's build a run of form. #onwards"

I replied with a calm and rational reply of:

"You're the chairman of a massively underachieving football club, change that and the digs might stop #youarenotmypal

Then rather than engage me in a civilised conversation he began to make out he was being continually abused personally.

So I sent him a private message to take things away from the public spotlight and to build a more calm conversational platform to maybe exchange opinions and dialogue.

Me "I see you don't reply when I make a reasoned come back. The word abuse is questionable also, you really should be a little more thick skinned if you are to continue to engage with a large disgruntled fanbase. The way your consortium has run the club over the last few years needs to be constantly questioned. We are not progressing in any way and you seem to be fine with that."

Jim "No it is not questionable. Your behaviour is moronical"

Me "Moronical? I'd say letting a club of SUFC's size fester in this division with a bloated squad paying wages to 34 Year Old journeymen and selling every bit of talent we have, is slightly more moronic than send the odd mocking tweet your way. You're a grown man in charge of a club with highly emotional local ties, expect some mocking if you are not achieving. If you don't either leave, change your ethos or close your account."

So there you go, the full story.

I've left the part out when he went on an ego massaging exercise, for the next 3 hours, conversing only with people who called him great and thanked him for being on twitter.

While you're on, and I've been wanting to ask someone this for ages.

Why do people like you tag Jim Phipps in tweets about football? I've seen a lot do it and it never makes sense to me.

And as much as I have issues with our board, your first tweet and consequent reply was incredibly twattish.

 

[Caseh]

I don't just mean right now, in the past people have been horrible. And all of the vile abusive people are an embarrassment to this club, so that includes the ones that were abusive towards you, then the ones to Jess Ennis, etc. They are people that are just too simplistic to work their anger and frustrations out in a non-barbaric way. They are the kind of people that give football a bad name, the world over.

Football is horrible to be involved with sometimes with some of the people it attracts, and I sometimes wish my dad never got my involved with it as a child.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

While you're on, and I've been wanting to ask someone this for ages.

Why do people like you tag Jim Phipps in tweets about football? I've seen a lot do it and it never makes sense to me.

And as much as I have issues with our board, your first tweet and consequent reply was incredibly twattish.

Perhaps he's frustrated with our plight and that's his way of letting those at the club know?

 

[Tezza1889]

The thing is this, there has always been dogs abuse given to a chairman of a football club, in general it's years and years of hammerings smattered with the odd pat on the back should the club achieve something a brief well done and then, get your hand back in your pocket....

So imagine a place where you can actually contact that person, tell him what you think he's doing wrong and all from the safety of your front room, there you have it, Jim Phipps is a nice enough bloke in a pressure cooker environment at the minute, I'm amazed he's lasted as long as he has on social media....

Twitter takes the barriers down between the celebs and the public, the main surprise for me is that Jim still tweets himself, most media savvy Americans hire a professional tweeter.... Bit of advice there for you, should you be looking in pal..

 

[Rodley]

It's not for me; shortly after a last minute winner, whose first thought is to send the chairman a sarky tweet (?!).

Again, I don't understand.

 

[PeteBlade]

Perhaps he's frustrated with our plight and that's his way of letting those at the club know?

As others have pointed out, my feelings after a last minute winner last night were not of frustration, no matter what my wider feelings about the board were, I've no idea why anyone would want to have a go at Jim Phipps.

And I never have any idea why people constantly tag him looking for attention.

It's weird.

 

[Worksop II]

Maybe it is just the start of Jim and the Prince distancing themselves from the club, one thing is for sure it looks like the game changing investment has dried up.

Missed this last night .. thankfully

I agree, this is probably the start of the end

 

[Esablade]

Irate football fans in 'irrationally slagging off club' shocker...who'd a thunk it eh?

Jim's tired of being abused...fans are tired of being in L1...Twitter enables the two to enact a little foreplay online before the real 'action'...or keep stalling due to 'lack of action'

It's just lovers tiff...

 

[Kenilworth]

The only trouble with social media is it makes people think that their opinion is worth something, when in actual fact it's not. There should be some sort of block that lets the poorly educated view only.

There is
It's called a "download the app"

 

[Kenilworth]

I read a story once about a striker who played under Barry Fry (a black player who had a pineapple haircut Jason Lee I think) who was getting abuse of fans for his 'pineapple' head!

He went to complain to Barry Fry who said
"You can do 2 things to stop the abuse, start scoring goals or get your hair cut "

Using this anology on Phipps/Board and the abuse they can do 2 things to stop it.

A) Sling their hook
B) get us promotion

Simple really

As I recall he eventually got his hair cut.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I like Jim. But submerging himself into debate with a "passionate" fanbase was always going to end in tears.
Surfing on a wave good will was always going to be easy when the team are playing well. But having such a large number of passionate fans also equates to having larger number of critics.
I guess this is the thin edge of the wedge.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

First of all he needs to come off Twitter. He's a well known director at the club and will be exposed to vile abuse from every idiot and his dog. I don't use Twitter myself I've no time for it, I'm not sure how other such busy people have time either.

He doesn't deserve abuse from the supporters, he's just a man trying to do his job ultimately but if he thought that relations with all of the supporters would always be good irrespective of the result then he was naive. Football is like that and so are the public. He needs to delete the account or deal with it.

 

[Deleted member 875]

i don't see a problem with Twitter or Social Media as long as it responsibly used. The Internet is what it is, everyone has access and everyone can use it, and some people are better at using than others.

Twitter can be great as it makes a lot of people are a lot more accessible, and I wouldn't have any qualms about Phipps, or anyone else at Sheffield United using it, as long as I use it in the right way, but unfortunately we have people in the club who don't use it well enough. Jim Phipps can be like that. We have seen a huge Twitter spat with Marc McNulty, can Connor Brown virtually got sacked because of a tweet.

I've had a fair bit of positive dialogue on Twitter between myself a few United players, past and present. Particularly Brian Deane, Jan Aage Fjortfoft, John Brayford and Matt Hill. If it used in that way it is a good tool.

The one thing United don't seem to have is a social media policy. I'm subject to a social media policy at my workplace and it is super simple to use. I don't have anything tied in that mentions my workplace, and if I do mention what I do, or my work place I do so positively.