Out of contract players likely to go..

[Wards]

Madine, Hogan, Washington are all one trick (and it's not much of a trick in any of the cases) ponies, not worth it.

Well that’s a bag of shite. Maybe we should sell Egan too, all he does is head it. Send Henderson back while we’re at it, all he does is make bloody saves every week.

 

[nezimão]

all this talk of replacing many in the current first team is very, very shortsighted. one only needs to take a look at the mess fulham are in to see how this would play out.

 

[bromtom]

Looked decent for the u23s.

I think he's looked mostly decent for the first team.

He had a poor game against Birmingham with Leon but I think he'd be dangerous with Billy, running behind and laying it off, and apart from Barnet where everyone looked shite apart from Billy, his other cameos have been alright. Should've scored against Blackburn Rovers, set one up against Brentford, and hit the bar with an overhead kick against someone I can't recall. Fair enough strikers are judged on goals and he's not scored any, but for his age and wages he's worth keeping for me.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Scott Hogan, minutes played for Sheffield United: 0.

Madine was also a huge contributor to our point at Norwich, battled really well which allowed our flair players to capitalise at the end.

 

[8lade]

Scott Hogan, minutes played for Sheffield United: 0.

I'll wager it's not much more than that by the end of the season. Rolls off the last man, that's it. As with the other 2 if he scores the goal that gets us a point to get us up (or even assists it doing something nobody else does), it's money well spent but a striker for a club challenging for top tier, not enough about him.

 

[8lade]

Well that’s a bag of shite. Maybe we should sell Egan too, all he does is head it. Send Henderson back while we’re at it, all he does is make bloody saves every week.

I'm sure I don't need to explain the difference, I hope I don't.

 

[8lade]

Heneghan and Carruthers in particular should have never been players we have to give away.

I'm at quite a loss about Carruthers, there must be many Championship teams who could use a player of his quality in midfield.

 

[stringer]

I'll wager it's not much more than that by the end of the season. Rolls off the last man, that's it. As with the other 2 if he scores the goal that gets us a point to get us up (or even assists it doing something nobody else does), it's money well spent but a striker for a club challenging for top tier, not enough about him.

I’d be interested in that wager

 

[BigBed]

I think he's looked mostly decent for the first team.

He had a poor game against Birmingham with Leon but I think he'd be dangerous with Billy, running behind and laying it off, and apart from Barnet where everyone looked shite apart from Billy, his other cameos have been alright. Should've scored against Blackburn Rovers, set one up against Brentford, and hit the bar with an overhead kick against someone I can't recall. Fair enough strikers are judged on goals and he's not scored any, but for his age and wages he's worth keeping for me.

But the can only score goals if they play.
Leon was a perfect example, everyone thought he'd turned to shit, then, BOOM, and he set off, to be leading scorer over Bill, in our squad was a Brilliant achievement.
If Washington gets games, I'm sure he will come on leaps and bounds under our management, the problem being, Billy, Madine, Hogan and Mcgoldrick, because I can't see him getting the nod over any of these 4, unless, god forbid, an injury or illness occurs, unfortunately for the lad.

 

[Elsecar_Blade]

I see your point, but I'm with TPL on this one. Whilst Washington is a better option than Ched or Lavery for sure, if he was a Prem striker he'd already be one. I share your doubts that we'd commit to that level of spending, but if we do go up and don't want to be embarassed on a Barnsley level, then we'd have to spend.

No fan of Barnsley but that’s a bit harsh. They fought bravely in their year up there and took it to the penultimate game IIRC.

Unless you mean a level of embarrassment akin to being born n bred in Barnsley. Now that I’d agree with.

 

[BladeTillIDie]

all this talk of replacing many in the current first team is very, very shortsighted. one only needs to take a look at the mess fulham are in to see how this would play out.

What do you mean? Every season teams let players go and sign new ones in to IMPROVE the current squad. We have alot of league 1 players that need to be gone.

 

[The Crab]

No fan of Barnsley but that’s a bit harsh. They fought bravely in their year up there and took it to the penultimate game IIRC.

Unless you mean a level of embarrassment akin to being born n bred in Barnsley. Now that I’d agree with.

On reflection and after a bit of Wiki research you are correct and I'm being a bit harsh, my memory failed me a bit there.

What I do remember though is a book called Keeper of Dreams which IIRC was about their season in the Prem and it pretty much centred around their Goalie Lars Leese.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

The best chance of Premier League survival would be to follow the blueprint which got us there. That is, not do a Fulham and sign a new team to get relegated, but to use the squad which are familiar with each other and know the system. Let CW/AK strengthen as they see fit, with vastly increased funds, but don`t chuck the baby out with the bath water.

 

[Mumbo]

If we get promoted nowt much will change,we’ll keep our first eleven and bring in 3 or 4 new players then strengthen in January.
The current team spirit will endure because we won’t make wholesale changes and Wilder will still be the inspirational gaffer.
We’ll make a good fist of staying up and punch above our weight.
I have no fears about what will happen if we go up however should we fail to get promotion that’s when the shit will hit the fan(no pun intended).Key players will be tempted away and approaches will be made for the ambitious Wilder who will become increasingly frustrated with his modest blades budget.
Wilder needs promotion,this squad needs promotion and Mcabe is praying for it...
and us fans,well,we shall not be moved.
UTB.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I'm at quite a loss about Carruthers, there must be many Championship teams who could use a player of his quality in midfield.

He was hit & miss in League 1 for us. Only ever looked of use as an impact sub, while he was poor when he started. Plenty called for patience and said he was just getting used to us, which was fair enough at the time. As time has worn on though, he’s simply not been good enough – last year he’d even lost any impact off the bench.

There are players that look fine in League 1 but can’t make the step up – Carruthers is one of those IMHO. It happens.

 

[bromtom]

He was hit & miss in League 1 for us. Only ever looked of use as an impact sub, while he was poor when he started. Plenty called for patience and said he was just getting used to us, which was fair enough at the time. As time has worn on though, he’s simply not been good enough – last year he’d even lost any impact off the bench.

There are players that look fine in League 1 but can’t make the step up – Carruthers is one of those IMHO. It happens.

Just think at the start of last season he was starting some games ahead of Duffy. His major issue is that he just doesn't pass, he's got skill falling out of every orifice but limited vision.

Seems like his knees are made of shortbread too now so that doesn't help, but if he got fit and had a good run I could see him upper League One/ bottom half Championship, a Bolton perhaps.

 

[nezimão]

What do you mean? Every season teams let players go and sign new ones in to IMPROVE the current squad. We have alot of league 1 players that need to be gone.

respectfully friend, my comments were directed at those who, in the event of promotion, argue we should make wholesale changes to the current first xi.

undoubtedly there are players on the periphery who would need to be moved along.

 

[8lade]

On reflection and after a bit of Wiki research you are correct and I'm being a bit harsh, my memory failed me a bit there.

Think it was Derby who were terrible 15 pts (correction 11pts) and Sunderland who weren't much better.
At the end of the day if we get there, it doesn't matter as long as the players and manager never capitulate, stick with their principles and keep building as we've seen in the last 3 seasons.

 

[The Crab]

Think it was Derby who were terrible 15 pts (correction 11pts) and Sunderland who weren't much better.
At the end of the day if we get there, it doesn't matter as long as the players and manager never capitulate, stick with their principles and keep building as we've seen in the last 3 seasons.

Yep correct, it was Derby.

Oh I agree, we'd make a good fist of it, but I'd say (as with any of the teams likely to go up) we just need a bit more polish in certain areas, and Premier League polish costs. I'm convinced we have the right manager, but he needs to be backed.

 

[stringer]

Yep correct, it was Derby.

Oh I agree, we'd make a good fist of it, but I'd say (as with any of the teams likely to go up) we just need a bit more polish in certain areas, and Premier League polish costs. I'm convinced we have the right manager, but he needs to be backed.

The £200m jackpot will surely help grease the wheels somewhat

 

[Torrix1889]

The £200m jackpot will surely help grease the wheels somewhat

If McCabe and HRH have sorted their shit out by then...

 

[I should coco]

If McCabe and HRH have sorted their shit out by then...

The money will come into the club first. If ownership is not sorted then I would imagine a judge would direct a proportion of it be sent as seemly for a Premier League club, much like allowing the Brooks money to fund wages and transfers this season.

If we go up, the hearing is in May when the value of the club has just increased massively. The loser has even more reason to appeal so expect the whole shitty mess to drag on for a lot longer.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

The £200m jackpot will surely help grease the wheels somewhat

Can’t wait to see what state the art facilities we can have with the £200m Kop redevelopment. For that we could probably include an ejector-seat system that activates at shouts of ‘gerritforrad’, while the laser-defence system can vaporise any serial offenders that need to head to the bar every 15 minutes.

 

[BushBlade]

The money will come into the club first. If ownership is not sorted then I would imagine a judge would direct a proportion of it be sent as seemly for a Premier League club, much like allowing the Brooks money to fund wages and transfers this season.

If we go up, the hearing is in May when the value of the club has just increased massively. The loser has even more reason to appeal so expect the whole shitty mess to drag on for a lot longer.

Or Prince Andrex just agrees to complete on the original deal and buy the ground etc.

 

[I should coco]

Or Prince Andrex just agrees to complete on the original deal and buy the ground etc.

It's a possibility but if as likely KM loses, he will have the best legal minds looking for loopholes to get the club back.

As you avatar says, we are in a right mess and a massive increase in the value of the club will likely mean more sticky paws trying to get in on the act. Expect Dean Hammond's agent to come back for another go too.......

 

[Hunter_999]

I'll wager it's not much more than that by the end of the season. Rolls off the last man, that's it. As with the other 2 if he scores the goal that gets us a point to get us up (or even assists it doing something nobody else does), it's money well spent but a striker for a club challenging for top tier, not enough about him.

When in doubt, double down!

 

[BushBlade]

It's a possibility but if as likely KM loses, he will have the best legal minds looking for loopholes to get the club back.

As you avatar says, we are in a right mess and a massive increase in the value of the club will likely mean more sticky paws trying to get in on the act. Expect Dean Hammond's agent to come back for another go too.......

He should have got the best legal minds to draft the contract in the first place.

He’s suing Andrex for a specific performance- to buy the club AND the fixed assets in accordance to a contract that Andrex has tried to wriggle out of. If Andrex now turns round and says ‘OK, I’ll buy the lot as per the contract’ KM can’t then launch another legal action because he’s changed his mind.

 

[8lade]

When in doubt, double down!

Looking back and seeing that Washington has started twice over 'the best finisher in the division', I wouldn't put it past Hogan getting a chance too. It is for this reason I left it vague and didn't specify. (Also I don't gamble more than I can afford to lose and I can't afford a lot.)

 

[I should coco]

KM can’t then launch another legal action because he’s changed his mind.

Can you be certain about that without seeing the contract terms?

He may be suing for specific performance of the original contract, but if HRH hasn't 'performed' by certain milestone dates, there may be other legal remedies. We have been fed some of the story, but there may well be more of the iceberg under water.

As the judge remarked, neither party were behaving well, so chucking another £100m into the ring will certainly not improve things on this score.

 

[BushBlade]

Can you be certain about that without seeing the contract terms?

He may be suing for specific performance of the original contract, but if HRH hasn't 'performed' by certain milestone dates, there may be other legal remedies. We have been fed some of the story, but there may well be more of the iceberg under water.

As the judge remarked, neither party were behaving well, so chucking another £100m into the ring will certainly not improve things on this score.

https://shepwedd.com/sites/default/files/UTB v SUL - D_s SA for 20.6.18.pdf

No, I don’t know for certain but I suspect the doctrine of estoppel will come into play.