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Worked ok though in the main. As has been stated many times his big ticket signings were pretty poor, Oconnel and Berge apart (IMO) .Most of the players he signed for peanuts have been excellent.
O’Connell if this is who you refer to he cost peanuts
 

I’ve got a bit of stick for using the #wildersbrexitblades over the past few days in light of us being linked with predominantly UK players since Wilders return so decided to waste a few minutes looking back over his first tenure…

Wilder joined on 12/5/2016 and left on 12/3/2021

Signings during this period, (there are some shockers here so apologies for raking up any bad memories)

Simon Moore Cardiff City
James Hanson Bradford City
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Dean Hammond Leicester City
Mark Duffy Birmingham City
Jake Wright Oxford United
James Wilson Oldham Athletic
John Fleck Coventry City
Jack O'Connell Brentford FC
Jake Bennett Mickleover FC
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Ethan Ebanks-Landell Wolverhampton Wanderers
Harry Chapman Middlesbrough FC U21
Caolan Lavery Sheffield Wednesday (Born in Canada qualifies for Northern Ireland)
Leon Clarke Bury FC
Chris Hussey Bury FC
Jay O'Shea Chesterfield FC
Joe Riley Manchester United
Samir Carruthers Milton Keynes Dons

Richard Stearman Fulham FC
Lee Evans Wolverhampton Wanderers
Ryan Leonard Southend United
George Baldock Milton Keynes Dons (Born in Buckingham qualifies for Greece)
Ched Evans Chesterfield FC
John Lundstram Oxford United
Ricky Holmes Charlton Athletic
Ben Heneghan Motherwell FC
Nathan Thomas Hartlepool United
Clayton Donaldson Birmingham City (Born in Bradford qualifies for Jamaica)
Cameron Carter-Vickers Tottenham Hotspur (Born in Southend qualifies for USA)
Jamal Blackman Chelsea FC
Enda Stevens Portsmouth FC
James Wilson Manchester United

John Egan Brentford FC
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Conor Washington Queens Park Rangers
Kean Bryan Manchester City U23
Dean Henderson Manchester United U23
David McGoldrick Ipswich Town
Marvin Johnson Middlesbrough FC
Kieran Dowell Everton FC
Gary Madine Cardiff City
Scott Hogan Aston Villa
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Ben Woodburn Liverpool FC

Sander Berge KRC Genk (Norwegian)
Oli McBurnie Swansea City
Lys Mousset AFC Bournemouth (French)
Callum Robinson Preston North End
Luke Freeman Queens Park Rangers
Ben Osborn Nottingham Forest
Michael Verrips KV Mechelen (Dutch)
Muhamed Besic Everton FC (Bosnian)
Dean Henderson Manchester United
Phil Jagielka Everton FC
Ravel Morrison Östersunds FK
Jack Robinson Nottingham Forest
Richairo Zivkovic Changchun Yatai (Dutch – loan)
Panagiotis Retsos Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Greek – loan)

Rhian Brewster Liverpool FC U23
Aaron Ramsdale AFC Bournemouth
Oliver Burke West Bromwich Albion
Max Lowe Derby County
Jayden Bogle Derby County
Wes Foderingham Rangers FC
Ethan Ampadu Chelsea FC

So 66 Wilder signings and just 10 who were either non-British or who were born in UK/Ireland but qualified for their country via family connections.

Now tell me that #wildersbrexitblades does not exist…..
So 2 promotions and a good PL season for a net transfer outlay of £0 and a wage bill of about £100m over the 3 successful seasons (up to summer 19)?

Criticise the business post promotion. Having anything but praise for the business before that is being silly.

"But what about Evans, Leonard etc". 1,000+ high quality performances from Wilder signings that pushed the club to a mid table PL finish, again, for £100m over 3 sessions all in
 
I’ve got a bit of stick for using the #wildersbrexitblades over the past few days in light of us being linked with predominantly UK players since Wilders return so decided to waste a few minutes looking back over his first tenure…

Wilder joined on 12/5/2016 and left on 12/3/2021

Signings during this period, (there are some shockers here so apologies for raking up any bad memories)

Simon Moore Cardiff City
James Hanson Bradford City
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Dean Hammond Leicester City
Mark Duffy Birmingham City
Jake Wright Oxford United
James Wilson Oldham Athletic
John Fleck Coventry City
Jack O'Connell Brentford FC
Jake Bennett Mickleover FC
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Ethan Ebanks-Landell Wolverhampton Wanderers
Harry Chapman Middlesbrough FC U21
Caolan Lavery Sheffield Wednesday (Born in Canada qualifies for Northern Ireland)
Leon Clarke Bury FC
Chris Hussey Bury FC
Jay O'Shea Chesterfield FC
Joe Riley Manchester United
Samir Carruthers Milton Keynes Dons

Richard Stearman Fulham FC
Lee Evans Wolverhampton Wanderers
Ryan Leonard Southend United
George Baldock Milton Keynes Dons (Born in Buckingham qualifies for Greece)
Ched Evans Chesterfield FC
John Lundstram Oxford United
Ricky Holmes Charlton Athletic
Ben Heneghan Motherwell FC
Nathan Thomas Hartlepool United
Clayton Donaldson Birmingham City (Born in Bradford qualifies for Jamaica)
Cameron Carter-Vickers Tottenham Hotspur (Born in Southend qualifies for USA)
Jamal Blackman Chelsea FC
Enda Stevens Portsmouth FC
James Wilson Manchester United

John Egan Brentford FC
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Conor Washington Queens Park Rangers
Kean Bryan Manchester City U23
Dean Henderson Manchester United U23
David McGoldrick Ipswich Town
Marvin Johnson Middlesbrough FC
Kieran Dowell Everton FC
Gary Madine Cardiff City
Scott Hogan Aston Villa
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Ben Woodburn Liverpool FC

Sander Berge KRC Genk (Norwegian)
Oli McBurnie Swansea City
Lys Mousset AFC Bournemouth (French)
Callum Robinson Preston North End
Luke Freeman Queens Park Rangers
Ben Osborn Nottingham Forest
Michael Verrips KV Mechelen (Dutch)
Muhamed Besic Everton FC (Bosnian)
Dean Henderson Manchester United
Phil Jagielka Everton FC
Ravel Morrison Östersunds FK
Jack Robinson Nottingham Forest
Richairo Zivkovic Changchun Yatai (Dutch – loan)
Panagiotis Retsos Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Greek – loan)

Rhian Brewster Liverpool FC U23
Aaron Ramsdale AFC Bournemouth
Oliver Burke West Bromwich Albion
Max Lowe Derby County
Jayden Bogle Derby County
Wes Foderingham Rangers FC
Ethan Ampadu Chelsea FC

So 66 Wilder signings and just 10 who were either non-British or who were born in UK/Ireland but qualified for their country via family connections.

Now tell me that #wildersbrexitblades does not exist…..
I know it works so well. Please never change it.
 
I’ve got a bit of stick for using the #wildersbrexitblades over the past few days in light of us being linked with predominantly UK players since Wilders return so decided to waste a few minutes looking back over his first tenure…

Wilder joined on 12/5/2016 and left on 12/3/2021

Signings during this period, (there are some shockers here so apologies for raking up any bad memories)

Simon Moore Cardiff City
James Hanson Bradford City
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Dean Hammond Leicester City
Mark Duffy Birmingham City
Jake Wright Oxford United
James Wilson Oldham Athletic
John Fleck Coventry City
Jack O'Connell Brentford FC
Jake Bennett Mickleover FC
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Ethan Ebanks-Landell Wolverhampton Wanderers
Harry Chapman Middlesbrough FC U21
Caolan Lavery Sheffield Wednesday (Born in Canada qualifies for Northern Ireland)
Leon Clarke Bury FC
Chris Hussey Bury FC
Jay O'Shea Chesterfield FC
Joe Riley Manchester United
Samir Carruthers Milton Keynes Dons

Richard Stearman Fulham FC
Lee Evans Wolverhampton Wanderers
Ryan Leonard Southend United
George Baldock Milton Keynes Dons (Born in Buckingham qualifies for Greece)
Ched Evans Chesterfield FC
John Lundstram Oxford United
Ricky Holmes Charlton Athletic
Ben Heneghan Motherwell FC
Nathan Thomas Hartlepool United
Clayton Donaldson Birmingham City (Born in Bradford qualifies for Jamaica)
Cameron Carter-Vickers Tottenham Hotspur (Born in Southend qualifies for USA)
Jamal Blackman Chelsea FC
Enda Stevens Portsmouth FC
James Wilson Manchester United

John Egan Brentford FC
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Conor Washington Queens Park Rangers
Kean Bryan Manchester City U23
Dean Henderson Manchester United U23
David McGoldrick Ipswich Town
Marvin Johnson Middlesbrough FC
Kieran Dowell Everton FC
Gary Madine Cardiff City
Scott Hogan Aston Villa
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Ben Woodburn Liverpool FC

Sander Berge KRC Genk (Norwegian)
Oli McBurnie Swansea City
Lys Mousset AFC Bournemouth (French)
Callum Robinson Preston North End
Luke Freeman Queens Park Rangers
Ben Osborn Nottingham Forest
Michael Verrips KV Mechelen (Dutch)
Muhamed Besic Everton FC (Bosnian)
Dean Henderson Manchester United
Phil Jagielka Everton FC
Ravel Morrison Östersunds FK
Jack Robinson Nottingham Forest
Richairo Zivkovic Changchun Yatai (Dutch – loan)
Panagiotis Retsos Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Greek – loan)

Rhian Brewster Liverpool FC U23
Aaron Ramsdale AFC Bournemouth
Oliver Burke West Bromwich Albion
Max Lowe Derby County
Jayden Bogle Derby County
Wes Foderingham Rangers FC
Ethan Ampadu Chelsea FC

So 66 Wilder signings and just 10 who were either non-British or who were born in UK/Ireland but qualified for their country via family connections.

Now tell me that #wildersbrexitblades does not exist…..

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I’ve absolutely no idea what your point is. He knows the players that he likes to work with & who he can get the best out of.

Nothing wrong with that, he’s been largely successful in his time with us so he clearly knows what he’s doing.

It’s probably our scouting system that’s the problem when it comes to signing top talent from abroad not Wilder.
 
So 2 promotions and a good PL season for a net transfer outlay of £0 and a wage bill of about £100m over the 3 successful seasons (up to summer 19)?

Criticise the business post promotion. Having anything but praise for the business before that is being silly.

"But what about Evans, Leonard etc". 1,000+ high quality performances from Wilder signings that pushed the club to a mid table PL finish, again, for £100m over 3 sessions all in

Missing the point Carlts, (what's new) my point was Wilder prefers to sign British players, that's fact.....not saying there is anything wrong with that if it is successful but it is a bit short-sighted when so many other clubs cast their nets wider and pick up good signings...
 
Missing the point Carlts, (what's new) my point was Wilder prefers to sign British players, that's fact.....not saying there is anything wrong with that if it is successful but it is a bit short-sighted when so many other clubs cast their nets wider and pick up good signings...
Fair enough.

My point was more that they found a successful way of working and it didn't matter where the players came from.

What was inexplicable is that, when we came into some money CW/PM completely disregarded all the things that had stood them in such good stead on recruitment .

One of which, technically strong players who came through at big clubs with excellent character who were being undervalued for whatever reason had worked astonishingly well. But most of all, every successful player we signed was tactically clever and had the football knowledge to learn their role quickly. But they gave that up and just moved to signing players who'd played well against United and disregarded whether they would work within the 'system'. The collective tactical IQ of the players signed in summer 2019 was about 11.
 
I’ve got a bit of stick for using the #wildersbrexitblades over the past few days in light of us being linked with predominantly UK players since Wilders return so decided to waste a few minutes looking back over his first tenure…

Wilder joined on 12/5/2016 and left on 12/3/2021

Signings during this period, (there are some shockers here so apologies for raking up any bad memories)

Simon Moore Cardiff City
James Hanson Bradford City
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Dean Hammond Leicester City
Mark Duffy Birmingham City
Jake Wright Oxford United
James Wilson Oldham Athletic
John Fleck Coventry City
Jack O'Connell Brentford FC
Jake Bennett Mickleover FC
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Ethan Ebanks-Landell Wolverhampton Wanderers
Harry Chapman Middlesbrough FC U21
Caolan Lavery Sheffield Wednesday (Born in Canada qualifies for Northern Ireland)
Leon Clarke Bury FC
Chris Hussey Bury FC
Jay O'Shea Chesterfield FC
Joe Riley Manchester United
Samir Carruthers Milton Keynes Dons

Richard Stearman Fulham FC
Lee Evans Wolverhampton Wanderers
Ryan Leonard Southend United
George Baldock Milton Keynes Dons (Born in Buckingham qualifies for Greece)
Ched Evans Chesterfield FC
John Lundstram Oxford United
Ricky Holmes Charlton Athletic
Ben Heneghan Motherwell FC
Nathan Thomas Hartlepool United
Clayton Donaldson Birmingham City (Born in Bradford qualifies for Jamaica)
Cameron Carter-Vickers Tottenham Hotspur (Born in Southend qualifies for USA)
Jamal Blackman Chelsea FC
Enda Stevens Portsmouth FC
James Wilson Manchester United

John Egan Brentford FC
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Conor Washington Queens Park Rangers
Kean Bryan Manchester City U23
Dean Henderson Manchester United U23
David McGoldrick Ipswich Town
Marvin Johnson Middlesbrough FC
Kieran Dowell Everton FC
Gary Madine Cardiff City
Scott Hogan Aston Villa
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Ben Woodburn Liverpool FC

Sander Berge KRC Genk (Norwegian)
Oli McBurnie Swansea City
Lys Mousset AFC Bournemouth (French)
Callum Robinson Preston North End
Luke Freeman Queens Park Rangers
Ben Osborn Nottingham Forest
Michael Verrips KV Mechelen (Dutch)
Muhamed Besic Everton FC (Bosnian)
Dean Henderson Manchester United
Phil Jagielka Everton FC
Ravel Morrison Östersunds FK
Jack Robinson Nottingham Forest
Richairo Zivkovic Changchun Yatai (Dutch – loan)
Panagiotis Retsos Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Greek – loan)

Rhian Brewster Liverpool FC U23
Aaron Ramsdale AFC Bournemouth
Oliver Burke West Bromwich Albion
Max Lowe Derby County
Jayden Bogle Derby County
Wes Foderingham Rangers FC
Ethan Ampadu Chelsea FC

So 66 Wilder signings and just 10 who were either non-British or who were born in UK/Ireland but qualified for their country via family connections.

Now tell me that #wildersbrexitblades does not exist…..
Obviously some truth in what you suggest!Wilder is a better manager now than then ( his words )
so I would assume he is more open to foreign players.Its all about scouting and we are more open to foreigners now I would hope..
 
Yes, but half of Wilders time with us was either in League One or the Championship. Hardly an attractive proposition for foreign players…plus the fact we haven’t got pot to piss in.
But not having a pot to piss in is exactly the reason why foreign players should be bought, they are cheaper and in general they are better. Takes a lot of research and good scouting though, but why bother doing that when Joe Bloggs is available on a free from the Dog & Duck
 
But not having a pot to piss in is exactly the reason why foreign players should be bought, they are cheaper and in general they are better. Takes a lot of research and good scouting though, so why bother doing that when Joe Bloggs is available on a free from the Dog & Duck

It's not just 'good scouting ' though.
You have to set your stall out with a well funded long term plan. Brentford for instance, decided they couldn't compete with Arsenal/Spurs/Chelsea/CheatinAmmers academies, so put massive resources into research and video analysis.

It's not something you flip to and from, as managers come and go. It needs long term vision and more importantly, long term financial commitment from the owner.
 
But not having a pot to piss in is exactly the reason why foreign players should be bought, they are cheaper and in general they are better. Takes a lot of research and good scouting though, but why bother doing that when Joe Bloggs is available on a free from the Dog & Duck
Look, our scouting network probably isn’t the best, also our inability to pay the same as our peers makes “Sheffield who?” a non starter for many foreign internationals. But that might just give youngsters like Osula, Brooks, Arblaster etc an easier route into the first team.
 

It's not just 'good scouting ' though.
You have to set your stall out with a well funded long term plan. Brentford for instance, decided they couldn't compete with Arsenal/Spurs/Chelsea/CheatinAmmers academies, so put massive resources into research and video analysis.

It's not something you flip to and from, as managers come and go. It needs long term vision and more importantly, long term financial commitment from the owner.
That's what was meant by the term "Good Scouting"
Everyone knows you can't just send a bloke out to Argentina and Brazil with a clipboard and a tick box word document
 
Why are we signing a Croatian.

We want Brexit football. We can go as far as Ireland for me.
 
Now tell me that #wildersbrexitblades does not exist…

Is three promotions with 'brexitblades' a bad thing ?

Wendy sourced a bucket load of 'nonbrexit' players in the summer, would you prefer to have them ?
 
I'm presuming that CW doesn't really give a shiny shit where a player comes from, provided he is better than what we already have, is attainable, has the right ethics and work traits and most importantly, wants to come.

I suspect that United's limited visibility in the overseas player market has stunted our chances of picking up gems from abroad so as he has been working with a limited budget he has gone with what he knows. That's fair enough and it's worked out well on the whole, but to get to the next level we do really need to see us expanding our knowledge of the overseas markets. Bearing in mind we have nearly signed a player from the MLS last season, brought in a Brazilian from overseas in the summer, and are just about to sign a player from the Spanish league, maybe we are just starting to see an expansion of our home grown policy. I can't believe that CW will be having a strop about this either.
 
But not having a pot to piss in is exactly the reason why foreign players should be bought, they are cheaper and in general they are better. Takes a lot of research and good scouting though, but why bother doing that when Joe Bloggs is available on a free from the Dog & Duck
Look at Wednesdays spending on foreign players and where its got them ?
Decades out of the top league and a small portion of their massive fanbase coming on here and pretending to be blades
 
Look at Wednesdays spending on foreign players and where its got them ?
Decades out of the top league and a small portion of their massive fanbase coming on here and pretending to be blades
What a pathetic weakly little creature you are. Calling someone a pig or a Wendy just because they don't share your stupid and precious opinion about how everything in United world is wonderful and fantastic.

You should fucking grow up you pathetic twat
 
What a pathetic weakly little creature you are. Calling someone a pig or a Wendy just because they don't share your stupid and precious opinion about how everything in United world is wonderful and fantastic.

You should fucking grow up you pathetic twat
What's a weakly little creature ?

Does it sleep 6 days and be a creature for the other one ?

No need for the abuse if your not a pig pretending to be a blade then you're a blade who sounds like a pig pretending to be a blade
Not sure which is worse
 
I’ve got a bit of stick for using the #wildersbrexitblades over the past few days in light of us being linked with predominantly UK players since Wilders return so decided to waste a few minutes looking back over his first tenure…

Wilder joined on 12/5/2016 and left on 12/3/2021

Signings during this period, (there are some shockers here so apologies for raking up any bad memories)

Simon Moore Cardiff City
James Hanson Bradford City
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Dean Hammond Leicester City
Mark Duffy Birmingham City
Jake Wright Oxford United
James Wilson Oldham Athletic
John Fleck Coventry City
Jack O'Connell Brentford FC
Jake Bennett Mickleover FC
Danny Lafferty Burnley FC
Ethan Ebanks-Landell Wolverhampton Wanderers
Harry Chapman Middlesbrough FC U21
Caolan Lavery Sheffield Wednesday (Born in Canada qualifies for Northern Ireland)
Leon Clarke Bury FC
Chris Hussey Bury FC
Jay O'Shea Chesterfield FC
Joe Riley Manchester United
Samir Carruthers Milton Keynes Dons

Richard Stearman Fulham FC
Lee Evans Wolverhampton Wanderers
Ryan Leonard Southend United
George Baldock Milton Keynes Dons (Born in Buckingham qualifies for Greece)
Ched Evans Chesterfield FC
John Lundstram Oxford United
Ricky Holmes Charlton Athletic
Ben Heneghan Motherwell FC
Nathan Thomas Hartlepool United
Clayton Donaldson Birmingham City (Born in Bradford qualifies for Jamaica)
Cameron Carter-Vickers Tottenham Hotspur (Born in Southend qualifies for USA)
Jamal Blackman Chelsea FC
Enda Stevens Portsmouth FC
James Wilson Manchester United

John Egan Brentford FC
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Conor Washington Queens Park Rangers
Kean Bryan Manchester City U23
Dean Henderson Manchester United U23
David McGoldrick Ipswich Town
Marvin Johnson Middlesbrough FC
Kieran Dowell Everton FC
Gary Madine Cardiff City
Scott Hogan Aston Villa
Oliver Norwood Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton
Ben Woodburn Liverpool FC

Sander Berge KRC Genk (Norwegian)
Oli McBurnie Swansea City
Lys Mousset AFC Bournemouth (French)
Callum Robinson Preston North End
Luke Freeman Queens Park Rangers
Ben Osborn Nottingham Forest
Michael Verrips KV Mechelen (Dutch)
Muhamed Besic Everton FC (Bosnian)
Dean Henderson Manchester United
Phil Jagielka Everton FC
Ravel Morrison Östersunds FK
Jack Robinson Nottingham Forest
Richairo Zivkovic Changchun Yatai (Dutch – loan)
Panagiotis Retsos Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Greek – loan)

Rhian Brewster Liverpool FC U23
Aaron Ramsdale AFC Bournemouth
Oliver Burke West Bromwich Albion
Max Lowe Derby County
Jayden Bogle Derby County
Wes Foderingham Rangers FC
Ethan Ampadu Chelsea FC

So 66 Wilder signings and just 10 who were either non-British or who were born in UK/Ireland but qualified for their country via family connections.

Now tell me that #wildersbrexitblades does not exist…..
It certainly worked for us, that old school British way of the changing room, sometimes foreigners just don’t get the banter im pretty sure if most of us went into a Spanish or Italian or Romanian dressing room we’d feel a bit alienated too. A good successful football team requires togetherness
 

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