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Amazing how quick: 'these boys deserve a chance/we have a special togetherness/the whole squad have got us over the line' turns into 'need to be ruthless/not good enough for the prem/overhaul required, lets do a Fulham.'

How many people said the same about our players when we came up from league 1?

Surprised Wilder has released the numbers he has; not because any individual is top quality, but it risks losing our spirit. Wilder might have to sign unknown (foreign) players without trustworthy character references, and it can always go wrong regardless.
 
Surprised Wilder has released the numbers he has; not because any individual is top quality, but it risks losing our spirit.

Loans aside (the loans were always heading back initially), we’re effectively releasing 3 – 1 that’s been with us a while but only started 1 game, 1 that’s started less than 10 games and hasn’t been with us long, and 1 that hasn’t been with us long and hasn’t featured in many games. I think the spirit will be alright.

It’s actually fairly similar to the 2017 released list. McNulty and Scougall were released. EEL and Chapman returned to their parent clubs. Done, Hussey, Wilson listed. O’Shea opted to leave for regular football. I don’t think the squad the following season felt too different, despite the change. The really key parts remained the same.
 
Loans aside (the loans were always heading back initially), we’re effectively releasing 3 – 1 that’s been with us a while but only started 1 game, 1 that’s started less than 10 games and hasn’t been with us long, and 1 that hasn’t been with us long and hasn’t featured in many games. I think the spirit will be alright.

It’s actually fairly similar to the 2017 released list. McNulty and Scougall were released. EEL and Chapman returned to their parent clubs. Done, Hussey, Wilson listed. O’Shea opted to leave for regular football. I don’t think the squad the following season felt too different, despite the change. The really key parts remained the same.
Not trying to be dramatic, you'd hope Wilder will make the best decisions with better infomation than me and he obviously values our spirit.

Feels like more than it is due to all our loans I suppose. To be bringing in more than 10 players into a 25 man squad is a massive change though,
 
Unfortunately for Cranie, there’s an obscure PFA rule stating if more than 50% of a player’s club’s fanbase regularly misspell the player’s name for a full season you aren’t allowed to keep them. Extremely harsh on Cranie, but I don’t make these rules up.
I feel part of the reason now! Even when I dropped the 'y' I often gave him too many 'i's. Sorry Martin. Best of luck.
 
Amazing how quick: 'these boys deserve a chance/we have a special togetherness/the whole squad have got us over the line' turns into 'need to be ruthless/not good enough for the prem/overhaul required, lets do a Fulham.'

How many people said the same about our players when we came up from league 1?

Surprised Wilder has released the numbers he has; not because any individual is top quality, but it risks losing our spirit. Wilder might have to sign unknown (foreign) players without trustworthy character references, and it can always go wrong regardless.

We would also do a Fulham if we don't get rid of those deemed not good enough and have little to no room for new additions.
 
We would also do a Fulham if we don't get rid of those deemed not good enough and have little to no room for new additions.
I would say doing a Fulham isn't going down, it's having a quality team and style of play and destroying it with massive changes over one transfer window. They are now geting relegated with huge squad of players on massive prem wages who don't want to play in the championship.
 
I'm sure a deal (loan or permanent), will be wrapped up for Henderson soon and I wouldn't at all be surprised if he's not our first signing of the summer.

Doesn't he only have one more year on his Man United contract? If so they won't loan him out for the final year, so we'll have to wait for them to sit down with him and negotiate a new contract and then we'll get a chance to try and negotiate a loan. Has Deano gone to Vegas with the rest of the team? If he has then no contract negotiations until he's back.

Don't expect anything to happen too quickly and to be fair this gives Wilder a great opportunity to look around and see who else is available, I haven't seen anybody mention Nick Pope at Burnley but he's 3rd choice behind Heaton and Hart at the moment so surely he'd fancy the chance of some first team football?
 
I'd post my recruitment wishlist too but I'm having too much of a hard time deciding between Calum Chambers or Harry Wilson on loan while trying to keep it all British and Irish...
I’ll look forward to your annual list of “every Tom Dick or Harry” with the most baited of breaths.

:).

Oh and please feel free to add a few dozen more to the list after it’s compiled. It makes it even more unmissable reading.

UTB
 
I’ll look forward to your annual list of “every Tom Dick or Harry” with the most baited of breaths.

:).

Oh and please feel free to add a few dozen more to the list after it’s compiled. It makes it even more unmissable reading.

UTB

Still don't understand the point of the thread do you? It really isn't rocket science.
 
'Paul Coutts, Martin Cranie, Conor Washington, Daniel Lafferty and Caolan Lavery will all leave Bramall Lane when their current deals expire this summer.

Leon Clarke, Jake Wright, Ched Evans, Samir Carruthers, Nathan Thomas, Ben Heneghan and Ricky Holmes have all been placed on the transfer list, despite still being under contract.

Meanwhile, Dean Henderson, Kieran Dowell, Scott Hogan, Gary Madine and Marvin Johnson will all return to their parent clubs following the completion of their loan deals.
'

The full list :)

Wasn't Lundstrums name on the list of Andy Giddings ?
 
Not surprised to see Coutts go, I think most people who were confident we would see the best of him after his leg break were kidding themselves.

Well most of us weren't expecting us to a) sign Oliver Norwood, and b) build a serious automatic promotion campaign in Coutts' absence.

Fate conspired to not leave him an opportunity to work his way back into the team. You don't just hit the ground running after an injury like that. He really should have been loaned out somewhere in January to get some games but with 6 months left on his contract that would have been a bit senseless. And Wilder made the right call in keeping him in and around the 18.
 
Unfortunately for Cranie, there’s an obscure PFA rule stating if more than 50% of a player’s club’s fanbase regularly misspell the player’s name for a full season you aren’t allowed to keep them. Extremely harsh on Cranie, but I don’t make these rules up.

How on Earth have we held onto Sharp/Sharpe (delete as appropriate) for so long then??
 
Really surprised Freeman ain’t listed.

Why? He has started a significant number of games this season, scored and contributed to goals and been an integral part of the club's success over the last three years. Only in the finishing straight of the season did Baldock cement his 1st team place.
 
How on Earth have we held onto Sharp/Sharpe (delete as appropriate) for so long then??

While there has been a handful of “Sharpe” spellings, their total fortunately haven’t come close to activating this rule. I hear that Lundstram was fairly close to leaving on the same grounds, hence Giddings’s initial confusion.

The absolute tragedy of it is that the ruling was only activated due to the exact total required being met. That means that had even one fan responsible for misspelling had taken the time to get his name right, he’d still be with us. That sort of thing will probably haunt people for the rest of their lives.
 



Cranie thing is interesting. Wilder is really good at transfers and won't have his pants pulled down. perhaps boro have been on asking for daft money cos we got promoted.. i reckon he might be waiting and psyche them out. Wilder won't be paying Premiership premiums
 
Cranie thing is interesting. Wilder is really good at transfers and won't have his pants pulled down. perhaps boro have been on asking for daft money cos we got promoted.. i reckon he might be waiting and psyche them out. Wilder won't be paying Premiership premiums

I don't think he was on loan to us. We got him on a free transfer I think.
 
so does this mean we are keeping Bryan?? get the feeling Wilder must have seen something in him in training, he was certainly in the celebrations in a big way, maybe we will see next year

Seen so much in him that when JOC got injured he'd rather Enda play left centre-half and play Johnson/Dowell at left wing back??
 
Cranie thing is interesting. Wilder is really good at transfers and won't have his pants pulled down. perhaps boro have been on asking for daft money cos we got promoted.. i reckon he might be waiting and psyche them out. Wilder won't be paying Premiership premiums

Middlesbrough released him last summer. He was our player on a short-term contract.
 
never does. you never hear about who he is after. you just get

Wilder signed x
who is x?
x is playing
x is crap
x is improving
x is mega
x is a legend
Wilder is a genius

nearly every time ;)

Agree, Genuinely think wilder is ‘hitting’ on transfers at an unprecedented rate. I reckon at least a third have become absolute stand out performers in their time (ones no one could question the value of)

Thinking -
Fleck
Duffy
JoC
Stephens
mcgoldrick
Egan
Norwood
Clarke
Baldock
Hendo


If we sign say 9 or 10. At that rate We will upgrade at least a third of the side with substantial improvements. Most managers would kill for that success rate - and it doesn’t even count the fact there are v few disasters on his resume (hussey and ched?) most of the others have provided at least some value.
 
Has Andy Giddings called it wrong by saying Lundstram is for sale? Official site doesn't mention him.

Must admit I was surprised to see Giddings mention him. His role towards the end of the season (ie. often being used ahead of Coutts) suggested he might well be in Wilder's squad plans for next year. Likely available at the right price, particularly if we bring another CM or two in, but right now he's decent cover. I've got no problem with that.

Interesting one for me. Never been a big fan of Lunny, but his cameo roles towards the end of the season showed promise and he looked a lot fitter. For the time being I hope he stays.
 
Think there will be some disappointed blades going by some of the signing suggestions! Just saw Danny Drinkwater mentioned... The bloke was instrumental to Leicester winning the league and he must be on a fair wedge. He could have his pick of club from the top 6 (possibly spurs too). Personally I don't want a big 'star signing' as I feel it will upset the dressing room. Wilder has a tough job ahead balancing keeping current squad happy and bringing in enough quality.

Very interesting Summer ahead.
 
If we sign say 9 or 10. At that rate We will upgrade at least a third of the side with substantial improvements. Most managers would kill for that success rate - and it doesn’t even count the fact there are v few disasters on his resume (hussey and ched?) most of the others have provided at least some value.
Agreed his hit rate is around 1 in 3 .... and its a good job Billy's is more than 2 in 3 :)

Thing is, a bad Transfers in, at 2 in 3 would not have got us relegated from League 1, and probably not from the Championship ......

It will next Season, I think he has cut a little too far, and I am thinking Crainie not Coutts

Anyhow, lets see what Drunken Karaoke Fucks he brings in :D

Wilder at Interview to Players Agent

"reight, seen your lad play, what can he sing ?" :)
 
Think there will be some disappointed blades going by some of the signing suggestions! Just saw Danny Drinkwater mentioned... The bloke was instrumental to Leicester winning the league and he must be on a fair wedge. He could have his pick of club from the top 6 (possibly spurs too). Personally I don't want a big 'star signing' as I feel it will upset the dressing room. Wilder has a tough job ahead balancing keeping current squad happy and bringing in enough quality.

Very interesting Summer ahead.

Struggling to work out if this is a joke or not...? Danny Drinkwater will have his pick of the top six?
 



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