Neal Maupay

[Pinchy]

A number of key economic indicators point to a recession within a year or so.

I could wax lyrical about inverted yield curves. I’ll not !!!!!

Brexit, or more accurately whatever outcome we have post Brexit may accelerate or deepen the recession.

But make no bones, it IS coming, so bolt down your hatches !!

UTB

No “may” about it. It will be a key trigger, not an accelerant. That’s why a huge number of us are determined to stop it.

Sorry folks. Once again, I didn’t start it...

 

[LoughboroBlade]

[INSERT GENERIC ‘MORE PAY’ GAG]

FAO Jim Chimmerney

 

[SteveBlade]

How can there be four new pages for me to read since this morning with no actual information?

Gibbards.

 

[LoxBlade]

I can confirm there was no Neal Maupay in the carpark as of half an hour ago. Shoes off.

 

[alcoblade]

But within 12 months ?

Football not my only area of genuine expertise

UTB

Apologies if you stated a within 12 momths previously.

That said, economic forecasters, even the professionals, are notoriously shite at their jobs (or in other words, their output is meaningless).

If there was any worth in there predictions, I doubt Btexit would be such a contentious issue.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I can confirm there was no Neal Maupay in the carpark as of half an hour ago. Shoes off.

Because he was training with Brentford.

 

[blades95]

 

[BladeInIreland]

One more day off before the real training work begins.

 

[OldBillBlade]

No “may” about it. It will be a key trigger, not an accelerant. That’s why a huge number of us are determined to stop it.

Sorry folks. Once again, I didn’t start it...

And apparently a larger number are determined to ensure it will happen! By leaving before the bust we will be a head of the game not tied into the concrete boots which will take us down with the rest. It's the storm that you finally are seeing is on the horizon! Better hold steady!
UTB.

 

[blademark]

No “may” about it. It will be a key trigger, not an accelerant. That’s why a huge number of us are determined to stop it.

Sorry folks. Once again, I didn’t start it...

I've noticed that you never actually start ANYTHING Pinch. However, you are a world class retaliator.

 

[NewBee]

Benham's been the main owner for what, 7 or 8 years (thought you might know )...

MB first put money into the club in 2006 and while he didn't purchase outright ownership until 2012, I'm pretty sure that was only because the club was fan-owned and he was never going to mount a "hostile" takeover before they were ready. Meanwhile, without his support in the interim, the club would almost certainly have folded.

... and in that time you've had one promotion and spent the last 4 seasons mid table in the Chumpionship. Looking from the outside, it's fine making money on deals and selling your assets for a profit every season (as I've said before, the modern day Crewe), but as fans, there has to come a point when you say fine, but how about the next step up the ladder ? You won't always find players that improve, investment in young players doesn't always work out, then what.

"Looking from the outside" indeed.

Imagine I told you I was building a house. A year later we meet, you ask me whether I've moved in yet and when I say "No", so you assume I was never serious about building one in the first place.

Never mind that I've dug the foundations, added the walls and roof and installed all the essential services etc, with the only reason I've not actually moved in being because the interiors need finishing, the kitchen installing and I'm waiting on furniture etc.

Which is where BFC are. Looking solely at the league table, you might imagine we've not made any progress. But each season, we've got stronger as a club in every respect. And if the finishing touches (i.e. the team on the pitch) aren't quite there yet, that's only because MB refuses to gamble against FFP in a dash for promotion.

But as with the new stadium - and you have no idea just how complex that was - everything about MB's involvement is long term, so that if/when we should go up, you can be sure we'll be giving ourselves the best possible chance of staying there, rather than eg "doing a QPR".

Benham will more than likely lose interest, cash in and move on.

I don't mean to be rude, but that is so far off the mark as to be comical.

"It is important to emphasise that Benham is not that stereotypical football club owner who uses the side’s finances and heritage as his personal plaything but rather a lifelong fan. Attending his first Brentford game as an 11-year-old in 1979 against Colchester, Benham has shared an affinity with the Bees for 32 years."

A profile of Brentford's owner Matthew Benham

atthematch.com

His investment to date is now around the £100m mark, with no guarantee he'll get any of it back (though he'd be unlucky to lose it all).

And although he doesn't talk about himself much, he has revealed that he hopes to pass the club on to his young son when his own involvement comes to an end.

 

[Scarebus]

MB first put money into the club in 2006 and while he didn't purchase outright ownership until 2012, I'm pretty sure that was only because the club was fan-owned and he was never going to mount a "hostile" takeover before they were ready. Meanwhile, without his support in the interim, the club would almost certainly have folded.

"Looking from the outside" indeed.

Imagine I told you I was building a house. A year later we meet, you ask me whether I've moved in yet and when I say "No", so you assume I was never serious about building one in the first place.

Never mind that I've dug the foundations, added the walls and roof and installed all the essential services etc, with the only reason I've not actually moved in being because the interiors need finishing, the kitchen installing and I'm waiting on furniture etc.

Which is where BFC are. Looking solely at the league table, you might imagine we've not made any progress. But each season, we've got stronger as a club in every respect. And if the finishing touches (i.e. the team on the pitch) aren't quite there yet, that's only because MB refuses to gamble against FFP in a dash for promotion.

But as with the new stadium - and you have no idea just how complex that was - everything about MB's involvement is long term, so that if/when we should go up, you can be sure we'll be giving ourselves the best possible chance of staying there, rather than eg "doing a QPR".

I don't mean to be rude, but that is so far off the mark as to be comical.

"It is important to emphasise that Benham is not that stereotypical football club owner who uses the side’s finances and heritage as his personal plaything but rather a lifelong fan. Attending his first Brentford game as an 11-year-old in 1979 against Colchester, Benham has shared an affinity with the Bees for 32 years."

A profile of Brentford's owner Matthew Benham

atthematch.com

His investment to date is now around the £100m mark, with no guarantee he'll get any of it back (though he'd be unlucky to lose it all).

And although he doesn't talk about himself much, he has revealed that he hopes to pass the club on to his young son when his own involvement comes to an end.

...and your new away kit is quite nice

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Today's the day, folks. It's the day when Billy the Fucking Bee returns after saying he'd see us all next (this) Tuesday (today). Can't wait.

 

[NewBee]

Then you are obviously quite dim.

I had hoped the 'wink' would be enough of a clue, but yeah, I suppose it was a bit dim of me to imagine that everyone would get the point I was making.

I mean, there's always one who needs extra help...

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Never mind that I've dug the foundations, added the walls and roof and installed all the essential services etc, with the only reason I've not actually moved in being because the interiors need finishing, the kitchen installing and I'm waiting on furniture etc.

I'd have moved in ages ago if it was like that! In fact, if you were building it on, say, the Hogarth Roundabout or maybe on a traffic island on the outskirts of somewhere like Plymouth, I'd have put my tent up and had done with it before anyone started digging the foundations.

 

[Le Cynique]

MB first put money into the club in 2006 and while he didn't purchase outright ownership until 2012, I'm pretty sure that was only because the club was fan-owned and he was never going to mount a "hostile" takeover before they were ready. Meanwhile, without his support in the interim, the club would almost certainly have folded.

"Looking from the outside" indeed.

Imagine I told you I was building a house. A year later we meet, you ask me whether I've moved in yet and when I say "No", so you assume I was never serious about building one in the first place.

Never mind that I've dug the foundations, added the walls and roof and installed all the essential services etc, with the only reason I've not actually moved in being because the interiors need finishing, the kitchen installing and I'm waiting on furniture etc.

Which is where BFC are. Looking solely at the league table, you might imagine we've not made any progress. But each season, we've got stronger as a club in every respect. And if the finishing touches (i.e. the team on the pitch) aren't quite there yet, that's only because MB refuses to gamble against FFP in a dash for promotion.

But as with the new stadium - and you have no idea just how complex that was - everything about MB's involvement is long term, so that if/when we should go up, you can be sure we'll be giving ourselves the best possible chance of staying there, rather than eg "doing a QPR".

I don't mean to be rude, but that is so far off the mark as to be comical.

"It is important to emphasise that Benham is not that stereotypical football club owner who uses the side’s finances and heritage as his personal plaything but rather a lifelong fan. Attending his first Brentford game as an 11-year-old in 1979 against Colchester, Benham has shared an affinity with the Bees for 32 years."

A profile of Brentford's owner Matthew Benham

atthematch.com

His investment to date is now around the £100m mark, with no guarantee he'll get any of it back (though he'd be unlucky to lose it all).

And although he doesn't talk about himself much, he has revealed that he hopes to pass the club on to his young son when his own involvement comes to an end.

That sounds familiar - self-confessed fan as an owner who wants to pass things on to his son...

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

MB first put money into the club in 2006 and while he didn't purchase outright ownership until 2012, I'm pretty sure that was only because the club was fan-owned and he was never going to mount a "hostile" takeover before they were ready. Meanwhile, without his support in the interim, the club would almost certainly have folded.

"Looking from the outside" indeed.

Imagine I told you I was building a house. A year later we meet, you ask me whether I've moved in yet and when I say "No", so you assume I was never serious about building one in the first place.

Never mind that I've dug the foundations, added the walls and roof and installed all the essential services etc, with the only reason I've not actually moved in being because the interiors need finishing, the kitchen installing and I'm waiting on furniture etc.

Which is where BFC are. Looking solely at the league table, you might imagine we've not made any progress. But each season, we've got stronger as a club in every respect. And if the finishing touches (i.e. the team on the pitch) aren't quite there yet, that's only because MB refuses to gamble against FFP in a dash for promotion.

But as with the new stadium - and you have no idea just how complex that was - everything about MB's involvement is long term, so that if/when we should go up, you can be sure we'll be giving ourselves the best possible chance of staying there, rather than eg "doing a QPR".

I don't mean to be rude, but that is so far off the mark as to be comical.

"It is important to emphasise that Benham is not that stereotypical football club owner who uses the side’s finances and heritage as his personal plaything but rather a lifelong fan. Attending his first Brentford game as an 11-year-old in 1979 against Colchester, Benham has shared an affinity with the Bees for 32 years."

A profile of Brentford's owner Matthew Benham

atthematch.com

His investment to date is now around the £100m mark, with no guarantee he'll get any of it back (though he'd be unlucky to lose it all).

And although he doesn't talk about himself much, he has revealed that he hopes to pass the club on to his young son when his own involvement comes to an end.

You could sum a lot of that up in two words from around 20 years ago, Kevin McCabe

Two more words, we'll see.

 

[Linz]

Right then Foxy delete the Rumour Mill

Don't fucking tempt us...

 

[Jesus_was_a_Blade]

Don't fucking tempt us...

If anything Linz you need another Rumour Mill, a Pre Rumour Mill. For when there's a rumour that there's a rumour, but not a confirmed rumour...

On second thoughts I'm going for a lie down

 

[BushBlade]

You could sum a lot of that up in two words from around 20 years ago, Kevin McCabe

Two more words, we'll see.

The crunch will come once they’ve moved into the new stadium. They’ll start getting glory seekers who’ll think they’re supporting the new Man City and will start demanding promotion.
They may well get promoted but if they don’t, some of their more vocal and less intelligent supporters will start moaning about Benham, giving him abuse, calling him Scrooge and all that. They’ll have a new bunch of fans with a sense of entitlement who won’t remember the days when they were stuck in the lower leagues and won’t appreciate what Benham has done for them.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If anything Linz you need another Rumour Mill, a Pre Rumour Mill. For when there's a rumour that there's a rumour, but not a confirmed rumour...

On second thoughts I'm going for a lie down

Or how about a Ricky rumour mill page?

 

[Th!stledo]

MB first put money into the club in 2006 and while he didn't purchase outright ownership until 2012, I'm pretty sure that was only because the club was fan-owned and he was never going to mount a "hostile" takeover before they were ready. Meanwhile, without his support in the interim, the club would almost certainly have folded.

"Looking from the outside" indeed.

Imagine I told you I was building a house. A year later we meet, you ask me whether I've moved in yet and when I say "No", so you assume I was never serious about building one in the first place.

Never mind that I've dug the foundations, added the walls and roof and installed all the essential services etc, with the only reason I've not actually moved in being because the interiors need finishing, the kitchen installing and I'm waiting on furniture etc.

Which is where BFC are. Looking solely at the league table, you might imagine we've not made any progress. But each season, we've got stronger as a club in every respect. And if the finishing touches (i.e. the team on the pitch) aren't quite there yet, that's only because MB refuses to gamble against FFP in a dash for promotion.

But as with the new stadium - and you have no idea just how complex that was - everything about MB's involvement is long term, so that if/when we should go up, you can be sure we'll be giving ourselves the best possible chance of staying there, rather than eg "doing a QPR".

I don't mean to be rude, but that is so far off the mark as to be comical.

"It is important to emphasise that Benham is not that stereotypical football club owner who uses the side’s finances and heritage as his personal plaything but rather a lifelong fan. Attending his first Brentford game as an 11-year-old in 1979 against Colchester, Benham has shared an affinity with the Bees for 32 years."

A profile of Brentford's owner Matthew Benham

atthematch.com

His investment to date is now around the £100m mark, with no guarantee he'll get any of it back (though he'd be unlucky to lose it all).

And although he doesn't talk about himself much, he has revealed that he hopes to pass the club on to his young son when his own involvement comes to an end.

Interesting article. It is a fact that statistics never lie. Perception and interpretation of said statistics can be a minefield though.

For me, Maupay has peaked in the Championship last season. There is very little he can add to the coming season that would increase his value. But he can lose form or pick up an injury that will see his performance and his valuation drop dramatically.

Logic would dictate that he is sold in this window. A sizeable profit with the possibility of a portion of resale fee if he cuts it in the Premiership. A guaranteed risk-free return on investment.

 

[NewBee]

But apparently Brentford operate and do their transfer business differently to EVERY other club in the league, it what makes them unique and special.......apparently lol.

I'm genuinely not being 'Billy Big Bollocks' when I say this, but BFC have no choice but to do things differently.

Because if we tried to compete with other clubs on level terms, then we'd fail.

Which is only a recognition of the fact that we're a small club, with not much of a history, not many supporters, a stadium which is a quarter century out-of-date (at least), and a location which has over a dozen bigger clubs competing within a 20 mile radius.

For me, the key to all this can be encapsulated in one game in March 2014, when Bees went to Orient in a League One game, with both clubs pushing equally hard for promotion. Brentford won 1-0 and afterwards, O's manager Russell Slade complained that we had "celebrated like we'd won the FA Cup".

Fact is, we might as well have, since we went on to gain promotion, the O's fell away, and within three years they were slipping out of the league at the same time as we were enjoying our third season in the Championship.

Today, not one single player survives from either of the sides which took the field back then, but while they're now existing entirely on free transfers and loans, we're buying players for up to £5m, and selling them for £15m+ - completely unprecedented for either club. (I've just checked, and the record fee paid by Orient was £175k in 1989 and the record received was £600k in 1981)

Which as I say, is not to "big up" ourselves, or "do down" Orient, but it does need to be appreciated if you're to understand what we do and why.

Meanwhile, Sheff U look to be doing things in a more conventional way and it's v.successful for you, so fair play!

But it does mean you ain't gonna get Neal on the cheap!

 

[Th!stledo]

The crunch will come once they’ve moved into the new stadium. They’ll start getting glory seekers who’ll think they’re supporting the new Man City and will start demanding promotion.
They may well get promoted but if they don’t, some of their more vocal and less intelligent supporters will start moaning about Benham, giving him abuse, calling him Scrooge and all that. They’ll have a new bunch of fans with a sense of entitlement who won’t remember the days when they were stuck in the lower leagues and won’t appreciate what Benham has done for them.

Calm down Kev. It'll get sorted mate

 

[NewBee]

You could sum a lot of that up in two words from around 20 years ago, Kevin McCabe

Two more words, we'll see.

I'm afraid I don't know anything about your Mr. McCabe, but if he's as interesting a character as our Mr. Benham, then maybe I should do some research.

Any pointers?

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I'm afraid I don't know anything about your Mr. McCabe, but if he's as interesting a character as our Mr. Benham, then maybe I should do some research.

Any pointers?

www.google.co.uk

HTH

 

[NewBee]

The crunch will come once they’ve moved into the new stadium. They’ll start getting glory seekers who’ll think they’re supporting the new Man City and will start demanding promotion.
They may well get promoted but if they don’t, some of their more vocal and less intelligent supporters will start moaning about Benham, giving him abuse, calling him Scrooge and all that. They’ll have a new bunch of fans with a sense of entitlement who won’t remember the days when they were stuck in the lower leagues and won’t appreciate what Benham has done for them.

But isn't that the whole point about Glory Hunters?

If the glory doesn't arrive, then they'll fuck off somewhere else again. Hopefully.

Which will still leave the genuine fans, however many there may be, who appreciate completely what Benham is doing for us.

And even if BFC's support has never been the most numerous or vocal in the game, it's still been enough to keep the club going for well over a century, so should see us through another one.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

And I don't understand fans posting on their own forum about another club's player...

Discussing possible signings for your club, you mean your site doesn’t do that? How odd if not

 

[Bladesman]

I get the impression this thread will have the tag gone elsewhere.

 

[BushBlade]

But isn't that the whole point about Glory Hunters?

If the glory doesn't arrive, then they'll fuck off somewhere else again. Hopefully.

Which will still leave the genuine fans, however many there may be, who appreciate completely what Benham is doing for us.

And even if BFC's support has never been the most numerous or vocal in the game, it's still been enough to keep the club going for well over a century, so should see us through another one.

No, unfortunately a lot start supporting a club because they think they’re on the up and that ‘progress’ is infinite. By the time they realise it’s not the case, they’re hooked.

If you were to ask most supporters when their first game was (especially the ones not indoctrinated by family at a young age) you’ll tend to find it was during one of the successful periods. We’ve got a generation who thought they were going to see players like Tony Currie on a regular basis throughout their lives. We’ve not had one since.

You’ll effectively become Fulham v2.