Neal Maupay

[Bladeinleeds]

11 followers. About as relevant as “my Nan’s milkman has a friend who spoke to someone when walking the dog who has a cousin that stayed in the copthorne 2 months ago and might, but might not have, seen Maupays wife”

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11 followers
Number 0926437 in the twitter handle
Brand new account

Seems legit!

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Is it just me that cant see someone like Wet Spam signing a player like Maupay? He's had one really good season in a mid table Championship team, surely they are more likely to go for someone from a "forrun" league who is proven at above Championship level (yes I know its La Liga but you know what I mean)

Jordan Hugill?!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Is she fit ? What was she wearing ? ...asking for a friend......

She was there with me.

Yes.

Very little.........

 

[Brownieblade]

TBH I would be willing to spend 20 on this lad because I think he will be quality for next 4 years either in prem or championship

 

[Sheffsteel]

TBH I would be willing to spend 20 on this lad because I think he will be quality for next 4 years either in prem or championship

I’d risk £20 or £20,000 on him too but £20 million is above his market value. We’re being ripped off but I suppose it’s a sellers market.
We’d be taking a big leap of faith for someone who’s only had 1 good season and never played a single minute at PL level.

I also think he’ll be quality at PL in the right team but i also wouldn’t be suprised if he struggles like Hugill did at West Ham, like Vydra did at Burnley.
He’s not a “sure thing`’ signing, it is amazing when you think a club might be spending 20 mil on a player that is untested and a big risk.

 

[SufcBilly]

I’d risk £20 or £20,000 on him too but £20 million is above his market value.
We’d be taking a big leap of faith for someone who’s only had 1 good season and never played a single minute at PL level.

I also think he’ll be quality at PL in the right team but i also wouldn’t be suprised if he struggles.
He’s not a “sure thing`’ signing, which is amazing when you think a club might be spending 20 mil on an untested big risk.

Whats yoyr view on McBurnie then? he surely isnt a viable option in your eyes either?

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I’d risk £20 or £20,000 on him too but £20 million is above his market value. We’re being ripped off but I suppose it’s a sellers market.
We’d be taking a big leap of faith for someone who’s only had 1 good season and never played a single minute at PL level.

I also think he’ll be quality at PL in the right team but i also wouldn’t be suprised if he struggles like Hugill did at West Ham, like Vydra did at Burnley.
He’s not a “sure thing`’ signing, it is amazing when you think a club might be spending 20 mil on a player that is untested and a big risk.

TBF Hugill was stupid signing, but hardly had a chance at West Ham anyway.

Vydra was injured for most of the season I think,

 

[FriethBlade]

You don't see many footballers on trains

True Jim. ...but Eurostar isnt any old train and its quicker to Versailles than flying.

Talking about footballers and trains I've chatted to a couple of ours on a train. Firstly Charlie Hartfield who couldn't have been nicer and was happy to have have a conversation. Secondly Tony Currie who was the complete opposite !

 

[Sheffsteel]

Whats yoyr view on McBurnie then? he surely isnt a viable option in your eyes either?

I like them both and would like us to sign both.

Not because they are such great players, both could initially struggle in their first season in PL.
The reason why i’d want to buy them is because they fit our club perfectly, young up and coming strikers with potential, hungry with something to prove.
Also because we are buying potential rather than guaranteed PL quality then we should be able to buy them at a good price.
I’d say 10 mill was a fair price last season but because the market has gone crazy then 15 million tops for either player is fair.
It’s always tempting to pay slightly over 15 mill but where do you draw the line before you realise the seller things you’re desperate so you’re being ripped off.
If both have average seasons next season, bet you can pick either one up for £10 million in the January window,

I’d be happy if we bought either but I wouldn’t putting loads of pressure or expectation on them.
I see Maupay as a similar level and style to Sharp but slightly quicker and of course much younger with potentially a big future in front of him.
I see McBurnie as a rough diamond, more of an all rounder, almost a Brian Deane type, he could end up being more effective and more useful than Maupay.

My point is that I think both are currently top end Championship/ low end PL players.
Don’t think either are currently quite good enough for the PL but both have big potential and are young enough to improve (especially under Wilders coaching).

 

[BLADES1988]

True Jim. ...but Eurostar isnt any old train and its quicker to Versailles than flying.

Talking about footballers and trains I've chatted to a couple of ours on a train. Firstly Charlie Hartfield who couldn't have been nicer and was happy to have have a conversation. Secondly Tony Currie who was the complete opposite !

Thank god! someone else has experienced Currie being a miserable old shit. I used to live near the bloke and he's right mard arse.

 

[NewBee]

It could also be that our exclusively British and Irish team is off-putting to anyone who isn't from those places. It might lead to feelings of isolation. That's not me slagging off our squad make-up, but it probably works both ways - great for togetherness if you're part of that group, not necessarily attractive if you're not.

Also I'm sure our lads would make anyone welcome wherever they're from, but it could be that a player from outside GB and Ireland would be more comfortable within a more multi-cultural squad.

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I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure it's that relevant.

Bees have a very strong Scandinavian contingent (Coaches and Directors etc, not just players), but there's no evidence that eg our French or Algerian players have had problems settling, never mind our British/Irish.

In the end, personality is more important than nationality and in that respect, Bees do a huge amount of background research before signing someone. (Memorably summed up by our Danish coach as being a "No Dickheads" policy! )

So if your recruitment and due diligence etc are sound, then you'll get good players, regardless of where they've come from.

In that respect, I'd guess both Bees and Sheff U are getting it right, even if they are "fishing in different waters".

 

[Sheffsteel]

Thank god! someone else has experienced Currie being a miserable old shit. I used to live near the bloke and he's right mard arse.

In the 1980’s I’ve tried to speak to Currie and on a different occasion I spoke to our manager Ian Porterfield.

It was like chatting to a right good looking bird in a bar. Both were quite stuck up and ignorant.
Although I was only about 19 at the time, probably couldn’t be arsed to speak to a young fan
Or maybe it’s my chat up line that put them off.
I was telling TC how it was such a honour to meet him but he looked bored and fed up, just didn’t want to have a conversation.
Was also shocked that he had this strong Landon accent, told him as a joke I expected him to speak in a Yorkshire accent, he didn’t find it funny.

 

[Pinchy]

In the 1980’s I’ve tried to speak to Currie and on a different occasion I tried to speak to Porterfield.

It was like chatting to a right good looking bird in a bar. Both were quite stuck up and ignorant.
Although I was only about 19 at the time, probably couldn’t be arsed to speak to a young fan
Or maybe it’s my chat up line that put them off.
I was telling TC how it was such a honour to meet him but he looked bored and fed up, just didn’t want to have a conversation.

Woodward was a grumpy fucka.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Woodward was a grumpy fucka.

Probably hungover.......

Mick Speight was a very nice guy, always happy to chat with us youngsters

 

[Brownieblade]

I’d risk £20 or £20,000 on him too but £20 million is above his market value. We’re being ripped off but I suppose it’s a sellers market.
We’d be taking a big leap of faith for someone who’s only had 1 good season and never played a single minute at PL level.

I also think he’ll be quality at PL in the right team but i also wouldn’t be suprised if he struggles like Hugill did at West Ham, like Vydra did at Burnley.
He’s not a “sure thing`’ signing, it is amazing when you think a club might be spending 20 mil on a player that is untested and a big risk.

That’s fair enough, my counter to that is as you already know there are no such things as sure thing so you have to gamble regardless at that end of the market and we have a fair idea, even on just one season that worst case scenario this lad will be pretty decent back in championship level

Can we say that about the lad Villa bought for more than 20 or one of the dozen or so lads that West Ham have been lined up with if they don’t get Maupay

 

[NewBee]

Is it just me that cant see someone like Wet Spam signing a player like Maupay? He's had one really good season in a mid table Championship team,

Don't be deceived by that.

I watched his first season and was a bit unsure about him. In particular, I was not persuaded that he is a "natural finisher" (missed a couple of sitters etc).

How wrong I was!

I can only conclude that he was simply trying too hard to impress in his first season, but by the time of his second season he had settled in (team, teammates, style of football, London etc), and so was a bit more relaxed.

Another "marker" was his discipline. In his first season, he was forever picking unnecessary fights (officials, opponents, away fans even). And even in his second, he was still a right niggly bugger, but it seemed to me to be more measured, more controlled, even though he was receiving rather tougher treatment from defenders.

... surely they are more likely to go for someone from a "forrun" league who is proven at above Championship level (yes I know its La Liga but you know what I mean)

For every player who finds it hard to step up a level, there's another who finds it hard to transfer to a foreign league, even when it's the same level.

Besides which, the Championship is as high a standard as all but 4 or 5 foreign leagues and players from those leagues are often too expensive, or don't want to move from where they're comfortable.

 

[NewBee]

Or it could be that he's as thick as mince and won't do anything unless his agent says so

I'd guess that when he first came to England, his agent would have recommended Brighton (more money, higher league). But he chose Bees instead, apparently because he knew he'd get a better opportunity to progress his career with us.

Which seems to be working nicely so far.

 

[WhittingtonBlade]

I'd guess that when he first came to England, his agent would have recommended Brighton (more money, higher league). But he chose Bees instead, apparently because he knew he'd get a better opportunity to progress his career with us.

Which seems to be working nicely so far.

I'm curious, who would you personally like to see Maupay go to (in the best interests of his career - personal opinions aside)

 

[Sheffsteel]

I'm curious, who would you personally like to see Maupay go to (in the best interests of his career - personal opinions aside)

If I was Maupay I’d be more interested in progressing his career instead of receiving the big pay off to make him financially secure.
At Villa, they generally play 1 up front which will be their new signing Wesley, the Villa fans think Maupay will mainly be sub.
At Sheff Utd it seems certain he’ll be a regular with Sharp being his back up.

I think the only (major) concern about joining Sheff United is that he could end up back in the Championship after 1 season.
That would be my main concern so i’d want clauses inserting based around that.
Maybe a relegation clause like what Jagiaelka had, like “if SU are relegated then Maupay can be sold to any PL for a buy out clause of 15 million”
Meaning if he proves himself in the PL then he can negotiate a good contract at another PL club.

Would imagine location might be important, so depending on how Brighton, West Ham, Bouurnmouth to Brighton prefer to use him, then those club must be tempting.
Also let’s not forget that he knows the Villa manager Smith and ex colleagues Konsa and Jota, which you would imagine helps him settle
But based on purely playing reasons then Sheff United have a strong case.

 

[ThatJa]

I'd guess that when he first came to England, his agent would have recommended Brighton (more money, higher league). But he chose Bees instead, apparently because he knew he'd get a better opportunity to progress his career with us.

Which seems to be working nicely so far.

I mean, your still in the same division as when he joined. So not sure how its progressing well?

 

[Billyblade]

I'd guess that when he first came to England, his agent would have recommended Brighton (more money, higher league). But he chose Bees instead, apparently because he knew he'd get a better opportunity to progress his career with us.

Which seems to be working nicely so far.

I think the most pertinent word in that post is "guess" because that's what it is. A guess

 

[Bladesman]

Deal done

Still a done deal then?

 

[Sheffsteel]

Still a done deal then?

Blade789 can easily back track and say it was a done deal at the time, player all set to sign the contracts
But now other clubs are sniffing around and Maupays agent wants a few extra days to consider the options (this is kind of what RC has said).
Could be one of them where we are gazumped at the 11th hour.

 

[Bladesman]

Blade789 can easily back track and say it was a done deal at the time, player all set to sign the contracts
But now other clubs are sniffing around and Maupays agent wants a few extra days to consider the options (this is kind of what RC has said).
Could be one of them where we are gazumped at the 11th hour.

Last seen this morning.

 

[NewBee]

I'm curious, who would you personally like to see Maupay go to (in the best interests of his career - personal opinions aside)

To a reasonably competitive PL club who understand what he can offer and who can guarantee him the most game time.

I say "reasonably", since if went to say, a Huddersfield, then it would be hard to produce your best in a team which is getting humped each week.

But it need not be a club which is guaranteed to stay up, since if he could notch 15+ goals in a team which ultimately got relegated, he'd still be sought after by other PL clubs.

Edit: I couldn't recommend WHU, since their recruitment processes are pure gash. But Villa might be a good choice, since Smith knows him well personally and professionally. Or Sheff U, since I presume Wilder has done his homework and knows exactly what he wants from him.

Of these latter two, I'm not sure which is more likely to survive. Objectively, you'd have to say Villa (sorry), esp if they get Maupay. But as Fulham showed last season, signing loads of big money players won't work if you can't integrate them. Whereas Sheff U seem to be very "together", which could stand for more in any relegation dogfight.

 

[SufcBilly]

12 pages to go shaggers

 

[NewBee]

I mean, your still in the same division as when he joined. So not sure how its progressing well?

Er, the fact that Premier League clubs are considering spending up to 10 times what BFC paid for him as recently as 2 seasons ago?

 

[NewBee]

I think the most pertinent word in that post is "guess" because that's what it is. A guess

I used the word "guess" specifically to avoid giving the impression that I was ITK on this.

On which point, normally I'd say "Your guess is as good as mine", except that unless you follow BFC as closely as I do, it probably isn't.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

To a reasonably competitive PL club who understand what he can offer and who can guarantee him the most game time.
I say "reasonably", since if went to say, a Huddersfield, then it would be hard to produce your best in a team which is getting humped each week.

Huddersfield might be humping Brentford this coming season.

 

[Brownieblade]

I'd guess that when he first came to England, his agent would have recommended Brighton (more money, higher league). But he chose Bees instead, apparently because he knew he'd get a better opportunity to progress his career with us.

Which seems to be working nicely so far.

I would hazard a guess that location also plays a big part in who you can attract etc etc as well as getting first team football