CONFIRMED Max Lowe joins Forest on loan

[sheffieldred]

So...

Cushty, fuck off and buy elsewhere then.

Also, if he's not great and "Jack Colback was keeping him out" then in the kindest way possible...what the fuck are you still doing on our forum?

Surely you've got picket lines to cross?

Don't get it. I don't work on the trains....?

 

[LudlamBlade]

Don't get it. I don't work on the trains....?

I'll give you that, scab

 

[Varkanoid]

normally spouted by those who support clubs who nobody cares about.

and Sky Commentators love Nottingham too.

 

[LudlamBlade]

Media love for Forest is a myth, normally spouted by those who support clubs who nobody cares about. Huddersfield were moaning about it pre Wembley too.

Behave, they're showering you with the same shite that we had thrown at us when we went up, especially given how quickly we'd come from L1 to the "big league".

The media loves an underdog.




For a while.

 

[Champagneblade]

Take the emotion out of it…

Is he not entitled to say

‘If you’re not planning on playing me Sell me for a similar price to what you bought me for or if you now value me a say double that ( £5m or so) give me a new contract thats commensurate to my new improved value to the side.? ‘

But when he was bought he became a Premier League player. He's now a Championship player.

 

[Champagneblade]

Enda Stevens is still in Brennan's back pocket isn't he? Never heard of the other lad.

To be honest Lowe would be back up, wouldn't be a starter as I'd imagine we'd be aiming a bit higher now.

Stevens has been on a downward trend for some time.

You could also say that Spence was in Norrington-Davies' pocket in the return.

You were the better side at Bramall Lane but United were better at Forest hence the result in both games. N'Diaye was very unfortunate not to win it away. I don't recall you creating that much at home to be honest apart from one Johnson effort late on. Don't believe Foderingham had much to do. Even your goal was against the run of play.

 

[Notts Red]

I don't recall you creating that much at home to be honest apart from one Johnson effort late on. Don't believe Foderingham had much to do. Even your goal was against the run of play.

We didn't at home but should have been 5-1 up going into the home leg so there's no doubt the better side went through. The season showed that too.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

But when he was bought he became a Premier League player. He's now a Championship player.

Don’t get me wrong - he’s done nothing for us that justifies a pay rise and looked out of his depth the league above.

I’m just saying he has leverage if he wants to pull it. Forest are looking to make him a PL player (for a season)

 

[Chingo]

We didn't at home but should have been 5-1 up going into the home leg so there's no doubt the better side went through. The season showed that too.

Are Bournemouth and Leeds not more relevant to you now than we are ?

Go on their message boards and debate with them who’s gonna stay up , do one ya gloating git!

 

[Broomhall Blade]

He's not far off to be fair

Far of what being a goalkeeper ?
Trust me he's worse than Lee Baxter.

 

[Champagneblade]

We didn't at home but should have been 5-1 up going into the home leg so there's no doubt the better side went through. The season showed that too.

I don't discount your efforts away. You were excellent but wasteful. But there was only one winner at your place in open play in what was the decisive leg. Most of your fans assumed your 9 straight home record would see you through but your players were hugely rattled. Samba was immense and saved you but he was a stud away from N'Diaye putting you out in extra time.

The narrative always goes with the winner. You should know that. I doubt anyone would have said it was a travesty if United got through. It would have been all about never say die attitude and mental toughness. That's how it is with the media. Just as you couldn't settle the tie at ours, the momentum we build just wasn't enough to win it in open play for us. You went through because you took more effective penalties. Over 390 minutes it was 5-5. Very little between the teams.

The ball just didn't fall for us. Then penalties are a lottery. Good takers miss and unproven ones step up. It is what it is.

I don't expect you to agree with me. You're a football fan. You're naturally partisan and so am I!

United were unlucky this year. We got shafted by covid cowards cancelling 4 games (more than anyone) to give us a huge fixture backlog. This contributed to a ridiculous injury list. When we played you at home we had 11 seniors out. When we met you in the play offs we had 6 strikers unavailable and had to go with two attacking midfielders up front.

We did well to get within 5 points of you given the absences.

We go again next time. We'll watch with interest. Henderson has a point to prove and was well liked here. You've then got to replace the 5 loans though it looks like you we spent 17.5m on one. All I'll say is it is fun until here. Not sure the positives outweigh the negatives once you get going.

 

[Frank the tank]

We didn't at home but should have been 5-1 up going into the home leg so there's no doubt the better side went through. The season showed that too.

But you weren't though were you ,you didn't take your chances and visibly wilted when we scored at your place

Your back 3 will get torn apart in the prem and if your wing backs are going to include colback your well and truly fucked

Your the most arrogant bunch of fans we've encountered including our very own neighbours in s6 and Leeds and that is some fucking achievement

Suppose its to be expected from the scabs

 

[Scarebus]

I don't discount your efforts away. You were excellent but wasteful. But there was only one winner at your place in open play in what was the decisive leg. Most of your fans assumed your 9 straight home record would see you through but your players were hugely rattled. Samba was immense and saved you but he was a stud away from N'Diaye putting you out in extra time.

The narrative always goes with the winner. You should know that. I doubt anyone would have said it was a travesty if United got through. It would have been all about never say die attitude and mental toughness. That's how it is with the media. Just as you couldn't settle the tie at ours, the momentum we build just wasn't enough to win it in open play for us. You went through because you took more effective penalties. Over 390 minutes it was 5-5. Very little between the teams.

The ball just didn't fall for us. Then penalties are a lottery. Good takers miss and unproven ones step up. It is what it is.

I don't expect you to agree with me. You're a football fan. You're naturally partisan and so am I!

United were unlucky this year. We got shafted by covid cowards cancelling 4 games (more than anyone) to give us a huge fixture backlog. This contributed to a ridiculous injury list. When we played you at home we had 11 seniors out. When we met you in the play offs we had 6 strikers unavailable and had to go with two attacking midfielders up front.

We did well to get within 5 points of you given the absences.

We go again next time. We'll watch with interest. Henderson has a point to prove and was well liked here. You've then got to replace the 5 loans though it looks like you we spent 17.5m on one. All I'll say is it is fun until here. Not sure the positives outweigh the negatives once you get going.

Mic drop

 

[sheepbridge]

I don't think he actually wants to be in Sheffield though does he? I got the impression he wasn't treated particularly well before his move to us...

No he was treated appallingly.
Paid thousands of pounds a week to train a few hour a day and either sit on the bench or play, usually not particularly well.

He does give the impression he’d rather play for you lot, though it seems a pay rise might soften the blow of having to stay, but unfortunately for him, we own his registration and can determine the price we value him at.

I would actually keep him to see if he really has improved, he did look ok last season, and do think Stevens is getting past it so having two young decent players for left wingback is a necessity if we want to challenge. Ozzy is a decent stand in, but I don’t think he’d ever be first or even second choice at LWB.

 

[247Blade]

Sensitive lot on here ain't you...

Samba riled you all up good.

He will get plenty of practice this season

 

[Kanye]

Forest were better than us over the two legs, and the season as whole. Notts Red is within his right to be a bit smug. He's probably buoyed by their signing of Awoniyi today too.

I'm sure they'll stay up, and have a good season. Cooper's a good manager, and I imagine it will be a fun year for Forest fans.

Ultimately though, he's trolling people he's never met on a completely unrelated football teams forum, on a Saturday night. I wouldn't be too jealous.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Agree with all that Kanye apart from Forest staying up - I think they're nailed on to go back down.

They'll have to spend fortunes to even given themselves a chance including replacing the entire defence

 

[The Crab]

And we've replaced him with probably the best players you've had in decades

If he plays like he did for us, undoubtedly.

If he plays like he did when he went back to Man Utd, not so sure.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Ah fair enough. Don't know where I'd seen £1m. Has he been injury prone for you as well?

No, he was crap and then we let him go on loan. If you’ve made him good then we’ll have him back.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I cannot wait for mid-December when they're all moaning about...

VAR
Big teams getting the decisions
Crap kickoff times
Thin squads
Being rock bottom by January

Genuinely cannot wait, I'm not asking Santa for owt this year because he's already wrapping up the best present I could hope for

Unfortunately there’s a chance that one of the promoted teams will do a Blades/Leeds first season. I just hope it’s not Forest.

 

[Grizzly blade]

I don't think he actually wants to be in Sheffield though does he? I got the impression he wasn't treated particularly well before his move to us...

And what gives that impression? Surely you aren’t falling for the usual footballer guff about loving the club…blah blah blah?

He’s under contract, and was more than happy under Wilder playing premier football…then left when he didn’t suit Slavs plan.
So even if he doesn’t want to be here, it’s feckin tough shit, he stays if the club says he stays.

Besides, I’m sure he’s losing a lot of love for a club who’s fans are suggesting he isn’t worth the transfer fee over £2m….

 

[LJBlade]

Based on this season (or his forest career if you will)he had two separate instances of a groin injury that kept him out of a good 20 games I'd say. That isn't great is it.

If I'm wrong and it was less than that, it means that Jack colback was keeping him out.

Either way, hardly a ringing endorsement for spending 5 mil on him

Pretty much what I thought, you’ve no idea really. You’re calling him injury prone based on him having just the one injury (the groin injury was the same issue each time).

I assume you’d class Keinan Davis as injury prone as well, seeing as he had two different injuries this year.

I suspect that the ‘injury prone’ comment was an attempt at having a sly dig but it doesn’t really work. At least you were brave enough to try to explain your stupidity though, Notts Red didn't bother.

 

[sheffieldred]

Same re keinan davis you are right. i love him as a player but I havent been bothered that we haven't made paying Aston villa''s ridiculous £15m "asking price" a priority. If he was available later in the summer for significantly less I would sign him

Re lowe, Two separate instances of a groin strain within the season, costing around 20 games, "indicates that he might be susceptible to injury". You might call that injury prone? Its not a dig.

The max amount of games he played on the spin for you was 5 or 6 right? Hardly the basis for a better opinion on his injury record.

 

[Scarebus]

Same re keinan davis you are right. i love him as a player but I havent been bothered that we haven't made paying Aston villa''s ridiculous £15m "asking price" a priority. If he was available later in the summer for significantly less I would sign him

Re lowe, Two separate instances of a groin strain within the season, costing around 20 games, "indicates that he might be susceptible to injury". You might call that injury prone? Its not a dig.

The max amount of games he played on the spin for you was 5 or 6 right? Hardly the basis for a better opinion on his injury record.

Please don't tell me that you've woken up nice and early on a Sunday morning and the first thing you've done is log onto another clubs fan forum and craft a 3 paragraph response.

 

[Weasel]

Anyway back to the subject matter. As SUFC currently own the players contract and do so until the 2024 and we aren't under pressure to sell, then if you want the lad you either:

1) get your hands in your pockets and pay SUFC their asking price, or
2) fuck off and find another player.

It really is as simple as that despite all the other claptrap and drivel that has been spouted re injury prone etc. Pay up or fuck off. Either works just fine for us.

 

[sheffieldred]

Who say I've been to bed

we'll do option 1 but when you're asking price is lower haha.

I'll leave the thread for now. We'll see what happens. No point until something concrete either happens or doesn't. I will return and congratulate you though if you get the full 5. Honest.

 

[metalblade]

Injury prone, only wanted as back up, not worth more than £2m, makes me wonder what all the fuss is about? Forest could just move on to other targets but maybe the lad has got something about him to make two dog nonces troll a Blades forum. Like others have said either pay up or jog on.

 

[Champagneblade]

I'm struggling to see the difficulty here in paying a fair price for Lowe.

It seems on one hand they have been linked with bidding €5m on a guy called Jesus Vazquez from Valencia's reserve team who is 19 and started a grand total of 8 league games. Yet he'd be seen as a more sure starter than someone who has been with them all season and according to whoscored.com was in the top three most consistent performers for them.

On the flip side, Forest seem interested in Nico Williams, who is now Liverpool's 3rd choice right back after Alexander-Arnold and Calvin Ramsay and for whom Liverpool (good sellers as we well know) have set the eye watering fee of £15m. I know he is an International but given Norrington-Davies also is (a player of similar level to Lowe, and Williams for that matter), I can well imagine Lowe would get recognised for Wales too if he had been born there

https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/174/Show/England-Nottingham-Forest

Behind only Davis in terms of performance consistency for Forest from an impartial source.

Just offer somewhere around the same as we paid for Osborn (£3.5m) to the €5m mooted here (£4.2m) and we can all move on.

Appreciate strikers cost more but they've just laid out 17.5m on a guy with no track record in England from Germany.

To be looking for him for likely a little more than the £1.5m that was offered in January is an insult to all parties.

£4m is a bargain for a player who has already some PL experience.

Let's face it, if we had an offer for Stevens we'd be keeping Lowe in a shot. It just doesn't make sense to have 3 senior left wing backs and you can only seel where there is an interest.

 

[ATL Recs]

I don't discount your efforts away. You were excellent but wasteful. But there was only one winner at your place in open play in what was the decisive leg. Most of your fans assumed your 9 straight home record would see you through but your players were hugely rattled. Samba was immense and saved you but he was a stud away from N'Diaye putting you out in extra time.

The narrative always goes with the winner. You should know that. I doubt anyone would have said it was a travesty if United got through. It would have been all about never say die attitude and mental toughness. That's how it is with the media. Just as you couldn't settle the tie at ours, the momentum we build just wasn't enough to win it in open play for us. You went through because you took more effective penalties. Over 390 minutes it was 5-5. Very little between the teams.

The ball just didn't fall for us. Then penalties are a lottery. Good takers miss and unproven ones step up. It is what it is.

I don't expect you to agree with me. You're a football fan. You're naturally partisan and so am I!

United were unlucky this year. We got shafted by covid cowards cancelling 4 games (more than anyone) to give us a huge fixture backlog. This contributed to a ridiculous injury list. When we played you at home we had 11 seniors out. When we met you in the play offs we had 6 strikers unavailable and had to go with two attacking midfielders up front.

We did well to get within 5 points of you given the absences.

We go again next time. We'll watch with interest. Henderson has a point to prove and was well liked here. You've then got to replace the 5 loans though it looks like you we spent 17.5m on one. All I'll say is it is fun until here. Not sure the positives outweigh the negatives once you get going.

Why spoil it by throwing the Covid shit excuse in again?
it’s becoming childish
And let’s be reigh one game more
Nope what screwed our season up was injuries but not due to game overload
Also Forest due to their cup success also had a period of game pile ups

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm struggling to see the difficulty here in paying a fair price for Lowe.

It seems on one hand they have been linked with bidding €5m on a guy called Jesus Vazquez from Valencia's reserve team who is 19 and started a grand total of 8 league games. Yet he'd be seen as a more sure starter than someone who has been with them all season and according to whoscored.com was in the top three most consistent performers for them.

On the flip side, Forest seem interested in Nico Williams, who is now Liverpool's 3rd choice right back after Alexander-Arnold and Calvin Ramsay and for whom Liverpool (good sellers as we well know) have set the eye watering fee of £15m. I know he is an International but given Norrington-Davies also is (a player of similar level to Lowe, and Williams for that matter), I can well imagine Lowe would get recognised for Wales too if he had been born there

https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/174/Show/England-Nottingham-Forest

Behind only Davis in terms of performance consistency for Forest from an impartial source.

Just offer somewhere around the same as we paid for Osborn (£3.5m) to the €5m mooted here (£4.2m) and we can all move on.

Appreciate strikers cost more but they've just laid out 17.5m on a guy with no track record in England from Germany.

To be looking for him for likely a little more than the £1.5m that was offered in January is an insult to all parties.

£4m is a bargain for a player who has already some PL experience.

Let's face it, if we had an offer for Stevens we'd be keeping Lowe in a shot. It just doesn't make sense to have 3 senior left wing backs and you can only seel where there is an interest.

“I can well imagine Lowe would get recognised for Wales too if he had been born there”


Or who’s Nan once shagged Tom Jones.