Jimmy Hagan

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Who was sent off in 1937?

I take it from your reaction to my answer that it is correct. In which case, I have at last discovered a positive from this self-isolation lark - it gave me an opportunity (for the first time, I think) to provide an answer to a question from you! If only Roygbiv was posting his 'Views from', I might manage a 1st on one of those!

 

[Silent Blade]

I take it from your reaction to my answer that it is correct. In which case, I have at last discovered a positive from this self-isolation lark - it gave me an opportunity (for the first time, I think) to provide an answer to a question from you! If only Roygbiv was posting his 'Views from', I might manage a 1st on one of those!

I didnt know the answer myself, I better look it up now!

EDIT: Yes, you are right.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I didnt know the answer myself, I better look it up now!

EDIT: Yes, you are right.

That feels like a papal blessing (not that I have ever been blessed by a Pope!)

 

[KoppedOff]

“He continued to play for United until 1958, as captain between 1946 and 1949, despite United accepting what would have been a British record transfer fee of £32,500 from Wednesday in February 1951.”

Was McCabe in charge in 1951?

“No bigger Blade than me, Jimmy. But off you pop to the pigs. £32k is not to be sniffed at, especially when I’ve got my eye on a bit of land behind the kop that will come in handy in 69 years time...”

 

[haich1889]

Like this one?View attachment 74758

Yes but in the car park.

 

[haich1889]

There should be 4 outside the ground: Needham, Shaw, Currie, Hagan, and leave a plinth free for one of the current crop at some point.

The Dooley one should be moved to where fans of both teams can "enjoy" it, so to speak.

Agree. Doesn't sit well with anyone I know the Dooley statue. When it all boils down he was a Wendy fan & player.

 

[haich1889]

I think it's fair to say Hagan and Currie would both be in the top 5 United (outfield) players of all time Needham top, then in no particular order Hagan, Currie, Gillespie (Billy) and perhaps Joe Shaw or there could be arguments for Harry Johnson, Woodward, Tunstall or Badger. Theres probably plenty of others for consideration.

Dane Whitehous?? Only true Blade since Woody & Badger to nail his colours to the mast & turn down big moves away. Proper Blade & excellent player sadly cut down in his prime.

I was at Port Vale the day Gareth Ainsworth did him.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

A good article and I can vouch for everything the writer says about Jimmy. For me he just beats TC as the best player I ever saw for the Blades I first saw him in the 1947-8 season and almost every home game until his retirement in around 1958. I mentioned , on another board, that in our childhood and teens ,we are sometimes overawed by what we see compared to later on in life. Maybe that sways my vote for Jimmy over TC but either way both are absolute legends.
One story about Jimmy is that he was by the corner flag with 3 defenders fencing him in. Suddenly, Jimmy jerked his head up and glanced over his shoulder. All 3 defenders followed his gaze and when they looked back he was gone. True or not there were many magical moments to savour which would take too long (and with good writing) to describe.

I attach a couple of pics which you might not have seen when I posted them some time ago. I am sure I am not the only one who would like to hear some of your stories - and we have time on our hands at the moment! I saw Hagan a few times when he was towards the end of his career and I was very young, so he was a hero to me, but my memories are patchy. One memory is my second match, v Huddersfield, 1953, when a player was not retreating 10 yards for a free-kick. Hagan with great accuracy blasted the heavy leather caseball into his groin, and left him on the floor as he collected the wall pass. The other may be a false memory, but I thought he was coming down the left towards the Kop, when the right-back tried to foul him; with quick feet, Hagan avoid the lunge and came down on the defender's leg. The defender wa stretchered off. I have always believed the defender was Alf Ramsey. I have no confirmation of this, and suspect it may be mis-remembered (something Mrs HBT sometimes reminds me of!)

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Jock Dodds at Swansea, Feb 1937.

Wow.
Both against Swansea Town.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

I think it's fair to say Hagan and Currie would both be in the top 5 United (outfield) players of all time Needham top, then in no particular order Hagan, Currie, Gillespie (Billy) and perhaps Joe Shaw or there could be arguments for Harry Johnson, Woodward, Tunstall or Badger. Theres probably plenty of others for consideration.

Jimmy Dunne.

 

[drblade]

Harry Johnson was a goal machine, he would have to be in the forward line!

Interested to know how many players there are who are the record goalscorer for more than one club (like our Harry).

UTB

Years	Team	Apps	(Gls)
1916–1931	Sheffield United	313	(201)
1932–1935	Mansfield Town	163	(104)
Total		476	(305)

 

[Rodley]

Hagan é deus

 

[haich1889]

Agree. Doesn't sit well with anyone I know the Dooley statue. When it all boils down he was a Wendy fan & player.

Put the Dooley statue on Dooley Way at the side of the Parkway. I really think the names mentioned on here especially tru Blades have more right to be in the Car Park.
What about Woody, Alan Hodgkinson, Len Badger?? true legends that wore the RED & White stripes not blue & white..

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

Derek Dooley was a good man and I'm glad he found a place at United after the other lot treated him so fucking horribly.

But as far as the statue goes, it'd be better off outside Hillsborough as a reminder of their shame, then we can free up some space for somebody who made a significant on-field contribution to the club.

 

[atlanticblade]

My father-in-law was a pig who hated United with a passion. Like many at the time,
he went to both grounds alternately.He told me that Hagan was the best player he
had ever seen and, surprisingly, that he was a "dirty bastard" as well, albeit in a crafty
cunning way. The latter comment surprised me.

 

[Nearly Jimmy Hagan]

Jimmy Hagan was before my time but my father always used to tell me what a great footballer Hagan was & in his opinion the best player he saw play for the Blades.
I have memories of standing on the Kop in the late seventies / early eighties (not our most glorious footballing period by a long stretch) & having to witness my father shouting ‘you’re not fit to lace Hagan’s boots’ & then strike up a conversation about it with whoever was unlucky enough to have shown some interest. Sometimes it was more entertaining than the game!

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Hagans actual name was James O'Hagan but the family dropped the O to avoid people realising his Irish family roots.
Anti Irish prejudice was high in Middlesbrough region when he was a kid.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Hagan has to be the better player, have you seen the boots they had to play in back then !!!!
And they played with a Caseball, if you have ever headed a wet one of those you'd know what I was talking about. but not till ten minutes later......

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Whenever I told mi Dad that TC was the best we'd ever seen at BDTBL, he'd tell me about Jimmy Hagan. Wish I'd seen him play.

Whenever I told mine about TC mine would tell me he wasn't fit to lace Hagan's boots.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Different time, different era, so it's something we'll never know really, lets just be glad they both were Blades...

 

[testerry]

i also had the priviledge of seeing jimmy hagan in my opinion he was a better player than T C what he could do with an old style ball was unblievable he was that good the blades were called a one man so much so that the sheffield star printed a team photo with all the players with jimmy,s head super imposed on each player

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Whenever I told mine about TC mine would tell me he wasn't fit to lace Hagan's boots.

And did you believe him ?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Hagans actual name was James O'Hagan but the family dropped the O to avoid people realising his Irish family roots.
Anti Irish prejudice was high in Middlesbrough region when he was a kid.

The family had dropped the O before Jimmy was born. His father was a Hagan. Probably dropped by his grandfather mid 1800s when the family arrived.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

I've got a book with a few facts about the BLADES but it was first published in 2010 it say's - At 39 years and 236 days Jimmy Hagan is the oldest player in League or cup matches to turn out for the Blades, has anyone beaten that since or are we just waiting for Jags to get older ?........

 

[Revolution]

I've got a book with a few facts about the BLADES but it was first published in 2010 it say's - At 39 years and 236 days Jimmy Hagan is the oldest player in League or cup matches to turn out for the Blades, has anyone beaten that since or are we just waiting for Jags to get older ?........

Hagan is third oldest, and the oldest post war.

Albert Sturgess and Billy Gillespie both made league appearances aged 40 in the 1930s. Sturgess was the oldest, at about 40 years and 100 days.

 

[Silent Blade]

I've got a book with a few facts about the BLADES but it was first published in 2010 it say's - At 39 years and 236 days Jimmy Hagan is the oldest player in League or cup matches to turn out for the Blades, has anyone beaten that since or are we just waiting for Jags to get older ?........

Which book was that? Hagan isbt the oldest ever to have played for us, it was Albert Sturgess. After leaving us, he joined Norwich and his last game for them was when he was 43

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

The Sheffield United Miscellany,
Darren Phillips.
It's on the back of the book, on the sleeve .......

 

[haich1889]

My father-in-law was a pig who hated United with a passion. Like many at the time,
he went to both grounds alternately.He told me that Hagan was the best player he
had ever seen and, surprisingly, that he was a "dirty bastard" as well, albeit in a crafty
cunning way. The latter comment surprised me.

My dad says exactly same, Hagan was the best ever.
As far as being dirty he confirmed this too & told me about an occasion when he was sent off at the Lane. He said the ground went silent, followed by the ref getting the worse abuse he can remember.

 

[Silent Blade]

The Sheffield United Miscellany,
Darren Phillips.
It's on the back of the book, on the sleeve .......

Well he got it wrong about who was our oldest ever player

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Well he got it wrong about who was our oldest ever player

Hagan is third oldest, and the oldest post war.

Albert Sturgess and Billy Gillespie both made league appearances aged 40 in the 1930s. Sturgess was the oldest, at about 40 years and 100 days.

Gentlemen, I apologise and bow to your superior knowledge...........

ps. should I bin the book ?