CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

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Berkshire Blade said:
I've noticed a tone in some of the stars journalists tweets there is more going on that is disruptive than we know about.
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Nathan Hemingway comment was lets say uneasy he said that the club couldn't comment as things were changing all the time not on a legal matter though
 

Well, if we don't beat Rotherham by at least three clear goals on Saturday then I think we'll know that the players aren't getting paid.
Real trouble ahead.
utb
 
Andy67 said:
I’m trying to explain but if you read my posts over the last few days you might start to understand my annoyance, l don’t hate anyone but he is rotten to the core and what has just taken place is a disgrace. All in good time.
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Have you explained why the Prince would want to ruin things. As you claimed?
 
JL94x4 said:
Andy knows fuck all. He got a few guesses right and it got to his head.
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In fairness the embargo was a revelation that gave him power and bias from immunity from the Moderators with his C bombs
 
Sheffsteel said:
Surely you can appreciate that it's tiring how you keep taking in riddles.
When ever you've made specific predictions they've turned out to be wrong, hence you return to the safety of being vague
Also what is highly unusual is that you seem to have a personal (quite emotional) vendetta against the Prince. Why?

Anyhow here's my theory.

You're getting your info in the pub over a game of pool with your mate Chris Wilder.
Suspect Wilder still has close ties with some high level people within the club and may be getting snippets of info from someone like Steve Bettis.
Bettis obviously won't be divulging too much to Wilder but will have given him some cryptic clues like the owners aren't from your usual football continents.
Might have told he's pi$$ed off and not happy about the Prince's recent behaviour regards his disappearing act and refusal to pay bills since early Dec.
Might have also told him he has some concerns about the new owners too as its all quite secretive as they aren't contacting him and letting him know about where he stands regards his future at SUFC. Bettis is worried he might soon be out of a job when the new owners arrive.

Wilder will still have beef with The Prince and has probably been slagging him off to you in the pub, so you feel it important to put the truth out there
that the Prince isn't this wonderful person and can turn quite nasty, cold and selfish when it comes down to money and business.
Bettis will have told Wilder (who is still a Blade and wants the best for us) that The Prince is willing to sell both Berge and N'Diaye and isn't interested in incomings,
so unless the new owners become more active and take some level of control then it's going to be a disaster of a transfer window, thanks to the Prince.
So from your insider knowledge you still don't feel comfortable until The Prince is totally out of the club and feel something bad could still happen.

The issue is that sometimes there are 2 different versions of the same truth, it depends on who is giving their version of those events.
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Well with Prince standing to make a multi million pounds profit while Wilders stock is currently, sadly, and disappointingly low, it’s possible.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Well with Prince standing to make a multi million pounds profit while Wilders stock is currently, sadly, and disappointingly low, it’s possible.
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This takeover has been kept top secret and there are very few people at the club who will know what's going on.
You would think as CEO (Chief Executive Officer), Steve Bettis would be one of the few, may be the only one with first hand knowledge.

Think Bettis was quite close to Wilder. So as Wilder is still a fan of Sheff Utd with no distractions of another job.
Then you would expect him to have had some contact with his pal asking for the takeover latest.
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Bettis is professional and would have been careful to only give Wilder vague information regards the identity, like the new owners are from a continent beginning with A.
Wilder will have asked about the Prince and I reckon Bettis has let Wilder know how pi$$ed off he is with the situation regards the behaviour of the Prince.
So although Wilder doesn't know anything specific he does have a general picture that The Prince has gone awol and stopped funding the club.
He's expecting the new owners to contact him but heard nothing, so the club is (or was) in total limbo with direct instructions from the Prince to be
prepared to sell Berge and/ or N'Diaye with no incomings to replace them. Bettis is furious and relayed this back to Wilder.

Probably explains why our CEO hasn't done any interviews regards the takeover because he doesn't know what to say and would prefer to stay in the background.

Wilder has then fed back the serious concerns back to his mates and I reckon Andy (born in 1967 makes him the same age as Wilder) is one of his drinking buddies.
This explains why Andy is highly confident regards his insider info because he's received it from an excellent source, virtually direct from the horse mouth.
and I believe he does have genuine info but it's quite vague because he doesn't have hardly any specific info, this explains the riddles.
Andy genuinely expected Berge and/or N'Diaye to be sold and I believe at the time it was accurate info.
However at the last minute the new owners must have took control and done a deal with The Prince in order to keep the present team together.
Also explains this strong dislike of the Prince because he'll have heard many times from Wilder what the Prince is really like behind closed doors.

Anyway.... this makes more sense than anything else and explains Andy's posts.
 
Sheffsteel said:
This takeover has been kept top secret and there are very few people at the club who will know what's going on.
You would think as CEO (Chief Executive Officer), Steve Bettis would be one of the few, may be the only one with first hand knowledge.

Think Bettis was quite close to Wilder. So as Wilder is still a fan of Sheff Utd with no distractions of another job.
Then you would expect him to have had some contact with his pal asking for the takeover latest.
.
Bettis is professional and would have been careful to only give Wilder vague information regards the identity, like the new owners are from a continent beginning with A.
Wilder will have asked about the Prince and I reckon Bettis has let Wilder know how pi$$ed off he is with the situation regards the behaviour of the Prince.
So although Wilder doesn't know anything specific he does have a general picture that The Prince has gone awol and stopped funding the club.
He's expecting the new owners to contact him but heard nothing, so the club is (or was) in total limbo with direct instructions from the Prince to be
prepared to sell Berge and/ or N'Diaye with no incomings to replace them. Bettis is furious and relayed this back to Wilder.

Probably explains why our CEO hasn't done any interviews regards the takeover because he doesn't know what to say and would prefer to stay in the background.

Wilder has then fed back the serious concerns back to his mates and I reckon Andy (born in 1967 makes him a similar age to Wilder) is one of his drinking buddies.
This explains why Andy is highly confident regards his insider info because he's received it from an excellent source
and I believe he does have genuine info but it's quite vague because he doesn't have specific info, this explains the riddles.
Andy genuinely expected Berge and/or N'Diaye to be sold and I believe at the time it was accurate info.
However at the last minute the new owners must have took control and done a deal with The Prince in order to keep the present team together.
Also explains this strong dislike of the Prince because he'll have heard many times from Wilder what the Prince is really like behind closed doors.

Anyway.... this makes more sense than anything else and explains Andy's posts.
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You can make up as many scenarios to suit your current view but at the end of the day you have no idea if any of that is anywhere near the case. Sadly, some will take that nonsense as gospel.
 
Large Mendonca said:
It's all very clear now what happened. The Prince absolved his duties in the running of the club, and left it to the incoming owner. The issue with a missed payment has cropped up and the Prince thinks the new owner should stump up. Obviously there has been a mexican style standoff, which boiled down to the Prince threatening to sell prize assets to sort it. This was brinkmanship in a way, but I believe Andy67 that he was fully prepared to do it - his loyalty is towards his personal wealth and not the Blades. The new owner has had to step in to protect his soon to be Golden Goose.

Has that about covered it?
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One possible scenario:
When the Prince and the buyer agreed a price for the sale of the club, the Blades were a club that had the potential to get promoted. Since then we have motored on and are now odds on favourites and would potentially be valued at a lot more now than the initial agreed price.
If that is the case it would be understandable that the Prince would feel that it is not his place to stump up any more cash when he is selling at a now undervalued price?
 
They will have agreed two prices, one if we remain in the championship and one if we were to be promoted
 
Sean Thornton said:
You can make up as many scenarios to suit your current view but at the end of the day you have no idea if any of that is anywhere near the case. Sadly, some will take that nonsense as gospel.
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True, I agree......I haven't a clue really.....
so just made up a scenario that makes sense of Andy's attitude and how a "normal fan" could have insider knowledge on something that is top secret.
Also as stated Chris Wilder is a fan of the club and will still have his contacts, so it wouldn't be a surprise if he's tried to find out what's going on.

Regards Andy, his posts have tended to be quite vague but I do believe him....think his info is genuine and it's appreciated.
 
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Sheffsteel said:
True, I agree......I haven't a clue really.....
so just made up a scenario that makes sense of Andy's attitude and how a "normal fan" could have insider knowledge on something so secret.
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But you ought to think about how you are showing both Bettis and Wilder in a bad light.
 

Sean Thornton said:
But you ought to think about how you are showing both Bettis and Wilder in a bad light.
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It's just a made up scenario/ story...2+2 = 5
Sincere apologies to Andy

Also if Bettis and Wilder are looking in, apologies to them too.
It was only the other day I actually gave very favourable feedback on Steve Bettis, someone I know and trust, worked with him and paid him loads of complements
telling me he's a genuine guy who's great at his job....and I've always been a massive Wilder fan too.
 
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BushBlade said:
I think he wrote The Old Cunt and the Sea, For Whom the Bell Ends and A Farewell to Cunts. I could be getting confused, it’s been a long day.
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Don‘t forget his tremendous non-fiction treatise about ITK fraudsters posting rubbish on message boards during deadline day, Cunts in the Afternoon.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Anyway.... this makes more sense than anything else and explains Andy's posts.
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My read on this is that the Prince agreed a price for us when we were far from favorites for promotion (after the slump). The price agreed is less than it would be if he sold it today given we are looking v.likely to go up - but that price is set. (El accounto said something to that effect this week).

The plan was always to sell key assets to plug a known financing hole in January if we didn't look certain for promotion in January. As it happens we are, and so the logical thing is to invest more and keep the squad together.

However - given the new owner is going to be the beneficiary of that promotion, the Prince (lightweight annoyed he is now selling the club on the cheap) pushed for the new owner, and ultimate beneficiary of keeping the squad together, to pay the bills. The new owner - refused for whatever reason (conservative approach, financing issues for the deal)

The embargo/Berge sales were essentially brinkmanship from the Prince to get the new owner to pay these bills (or authorize new debt). Some kind of compromise has been agreed now, the details of which I don't think we'll ever know, but I guess it involves some form of shared risk. between the new and old owner if the deal falls through.
 
bertieblade said:
They will have agreed two prices, one if we remain in the championship and one if we were to be promoted
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This might have been the case. It would have been difficult in this situation because it would have been difficult to assess how long the sale would take to go through.
There may have been a post-sale promotion bonus negotiated. My scenario was if that was not the case.
 
SUFCScorecard said:
My read on this is that the Prince agreed a price for us when we were far from favorites for promotion (after the slump). The price agreed is less than it would be if he sold it today given we are looking v.likely to go up - but that price is set. (El accounto said something to that effect this week).

The plan was always to sell key assets to plug a known financing hole in January if we didn't look certain for promotion in January. As it happens we are, and so the logical thing is to invest more and keep the squad together.

However - given the new owner is going to be the beneficiary of that promotion, the Prince (lightweight annoyed he is now selling the club on the cheap) pushed for the new owner, and ultimate beneficiary of keeping the squad together, to pay the bills. The new owner - refused for whatever reason (conservative approach, financing issues for the deal)

The embargo/Berge sales were essentially brinkmanship from the Prince to get the new owner to pay these bills (or authorize new debt). Some kind of compromise has been agreed now, the details of which I don't think we'll ever know, but I guess it involves some form of shared risk. between the new and old owner if the deal falls through.
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Well done....that makes perfect sense. Not sure how takeovers mid season work.
That might be why the deal has been complicated because promotion this season changes everything.
However you would expect the Prince to realise that promotion this season was a realistic possibility and put a promotion clause in the contract
or factored in a good chance of promotion in the asking price.
 
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Sheffsteel said:
This takeover has been kept top secret and there are very few people at the club who will know what's going on.
You would think as CEO (Chief Executive Officer), Steve Bettis would be one of the few, may be the only one with first hand knowledge.

Think Bettis was quite close to Wilder. So as Wilder is still a fan of Sheff Utd with no distractions of another job.
Then you would expect him to have had some contact with his pal asking for the takeover latest.
.
Bettis is professional and would have been careful to only give Wilder vague information regards the identity, like the new owners are from a continent beginning with A.
Wilder will have asked about the Prince and I reckon Bettis has let Wilder know how pi$$ed off he is with the situation regards the behaviour of the Prince.
So although Wilder doesn't know anything specific he does have a general picture that The Prince has gone awol and stopped funding the club.
He's expecting the new owners to contact him but heard nothing, so the club is (or was) in total limbo with direct instructions from the Prince to be
prepared to sell Berge and/ or N'Diaye with no incomings to replace them. Bettis is furious and relayed this back to Wilder.

Probably explains why our CEO hasn't done any interviews regards the takeover because he doesn't know what to say and would prefer to stay in the background.

Wilder has then fed back the serious concerns back to his mates and I reckon Andy (born in 1967 makes him the same age as Wilder) is one of his drinking buddies.
This explains why Andy is highly confident regards his insider info because he's received it from an excellent source, virtually direct from the horse mouth.
and I believe he does have genuine info but it's quite vague because he doesn't have hardly any specific info, this explains the riddles.
Andy genuinely expected Berge and/or N'Diaye to be sold and I believe at the time it was accurate info.
However at the last minute the new owners must have took control and done a deal with The Prince in order to keep the present team together.
Also explains this strong dislike of the Prince because he'll have heard many times from Wilder what the Prince is really like behind closed doors.

Anyway.... this makes more sense than anything else and explains Andy's posts.
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Or Andy1967 is Chris Wilder.

Or that wit guy.
 
Sweepstake time?

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Take out the 3 mansours and it leaves 15 to choose from.
 

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