CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

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Biggsy guessing. Current and new owner would have to agree or there'd be a breach of contract and financial repercussions for that. It would also jeapordise a deal that would make this look insignificant. United's valuation is significantly higher, too; prepared to sell doesn't imply "at any price!!. United have been prepared to sell Berge for two years.
 

The Alan Partridge roadshow is one thing.

I'd say if his representatives are actively seeking a move, then it's a worry. Especially if we need to raise money. I'm pretty sure if a player knows we'll sell him and his reps are pushing him then he's much more likely to go.

But who knows. There's so much flying around at the moment, it's impossible to know what to believe.
His reps have been sounding out moves for the past 6 months, hence why he's not signing any new deal.
 
we're amongst a takeover and ndiaye represents a significant chunk of value of the club...
 
The Alan Partridge roadshow is one thing.

I'd say if his representatives are actively seeking a move, then it's a worry. Especially if we need to raise money. I'm pretty sure if a player knows we'll sell him and his reps are pushing him then he's much more likely to go.

But who knows. There's so much flying around at the moment, it's impossible to know what to believe.
I'd imagine Everton approached his representatives, because you'd have to be batshit crazy to approach the shambles that is Everton at the minute
 
I'd imagine Everton approached his representatives, because you'd have to be batshit crazy to approach the shambles that is Everton at the minute
Everton are a great side for a player to sign for from a representative's perspective. Huge wad of cash to get him to go there, relegation release fee and another wad of cash next year.
 
Is this not tapping up ?

No, this is how it works. No point in going down the route of agreeing fees / add on / sell on clauses in a transfer if the player doesn’t want to go.

A club will ask the players reps if they want the move first. If the answer is no, then… no bids.
 
Everton are a great side for a player to sign for from a representative's perspective. Huge wad of cash to get him to go there, relegation release fee and another wad of cash next year.
Oh I can see it's a good short term option but he probably knows he can get something more secure in the top flight and there are better options to put your energy into, I'd imagine if he really wanted out his representatives would have permanent residence in a hotel outside the stade velodrome
 
we're amongst a takeover and ndiaye represents a significant chunk of value of the club...
Reports said the last accepted bid was around 115 million. One cheaply brought, admittedly great, player being worth around 20% of the clubs value suddenly makes that huge figure look a bargain.
 

He's better than iliman go get him dyche.

Thing is he is likely to be £20m+ till Coventry accept as well.

Problem with us is this embargo money. We have to clear it. Easiest way for the prince to raise funds is to sell a player.

If we are really in a pickle I can see us selling someone cheaply on deadline day. Like Iliman for £12m and/or Berge for £7m to just plug the gap. In true McCabe style.

What im hoping is that the club isnt in a pickle more so just this embargo money owed. Could even be something to do with khadra perhaps? But I reckon more likely Brewster, Berge or Anel etc.
 
Only player likely to go is Sander. Happy at the club but itching for prem football. Maybe last bonus signing on fee. Hasn't had the best/worst season, Injuries haven't helped. Ndiaye will not be going.
It's going to be a deadline day watch over sander only.

Every single blades fan will be broken if Ndiaye did go, but any business owner wouldn't sell there greatest asset at 20m when tomorrow it could be worth 150m... you'd gamble all day in hope to earn 130m.
 
So tapping up had been replaced by
Errr what I call tapping up, or at least that is what it used to be as you were not supposed to approach a player under contract to another club without that club’s permission
 
So what is tapping up?

Fifa rules state only that a club must inform another of its intention to speak to their player. The Premier League goes a significant step further by maintaining that written consent must be obtained.

A club can approach the player only “with the prior written consent of the club to which he is contracted,” rule T.1.2. of the latest Premier League handbook says.

The same goes for agents hawking their players to other clubs. By the book, they cannot do so “without having obtained the prior written consent of his club” – rule T.6.

And even discussing it publicly is forbidden, rule T.8. specifying that “a statement made publicly by or on behalf of a club expressing interest in acquiring the registration of a contract player or by a contract player expressing interest in transferring his registration to another club shall in either case be treated as an indirect approach”.

The Premier League successfully took action against Liverpool, Manchester City and Everton in 2017 and 2018 regarding the tapping up of academy footballers (it’s incredibly weird to tap up an 11-year-old, but there you go), issuing fines and academy transfer bans.

But it still happens, and when it comes to first teams its even harder to find solid modern examples. You can cite a handful of cases, at Chelsea, Roma, Sion, a few others.

The action-taken-to-offence-committed ratio make it barely worth the time taken to write the rules.
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding of the current situation is this.:
  • If we don't clear the debt the transfer ban will apply for three windows.
So if we have no other way of financing payment of the debt the options are:
  • Don't sell players and thereby try and safeguard our chances of promotion. And then hope this current squad with no meaningful additions is good enough to survive a season in the Premier League
  • Sell players. Pay off the debt and hope we have still enough in the squad to attain promotion. But then be in a position to be allowed to strengthen the squad for the Premier league if we have got there.
If this is the case then choice would you make?
 
Why don’t we all just calm down, turn our phones off & then turn them back on next Wednesday and see what we’re left with
Exactly. The club won't sell illiman unless it's an outrageously high amount. I agree, Sander could and still might go.

Does anyone know how much the unpaid amount is?

I'm confident that the club or new owner will pay the bill before the deadline as that would be financiall suicide - wont happen. Selling Sander could speed up that process, but we will have to wait and see.

Not worried at all.

UTMB
 
Does anyone know ndiayes contract status ?

Is it a year left in the summer or a year with an option

If it’s just a year I would say £25 mill could be the best we will get
 
Does anyone know ndiayes contract status ?

Is it a year left in the summer or a year with an option

If it’s just a year I would say £25 mill could be the best we will get
It's expires summer 2024 I think. If that's the case then I would expect that the club will offer illiman a massive deal in the summer EVEN if he is to be sold. He is worth far more under a large contract than just the 1 year remaining (if I'm correct)
 




I'm so unbelievably confused


Regardless of whether Everton made a bid or not, now Dyche is their new manager, I just don’t see N’Diaye being a Dyche type player. Well certainly not in the predicament they are in.

I reckon he’ll be in for all the premiership stalwart experience he can get hold of to try and avoid going down
 

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