Get him gone

[247Blade]

After Oxford he spoke about wanting consistency from the fans.

When he joined the club he said he knew the sort of football Blades fans wanted to see, and he produced it, no doubt about it, front foot & exciting.

Cut to this season, and he must know that we are really difficult to watch, it’s rarely enjoyable and there isn’t much exciting about grinding out 1-0 wins. So his narrative has changed. Producing performances that the fans enjoy watching no longer matters, the only thing that counts is points.

Which is fine, but you’ve changed your tune, Chris. Where’s your consistency?

Wilder wants to concentrate on the team ... not us!

 

[AWetFlannel]

“We don’t really tolerate shit performances, and whilst we’ve been getting results, the overall performance has been poor, we also don’t take to kindly to pointing the finger at paying fans, especially when the blame lies solely at the set up and choices made”

So you're saying if the team puts in a shit performance while I'm manager, the thing that happens to all teams every now and again, I'll get sacked regardless of the overall context? Fuck that.

 

[AWetFlannel]

So is he saying we shouldn't have expected to beat Oxford and that's why he had a problem with the booing on Saturday as we should've expected a draw or loss? Talk about backtracking. What a load of utter chuff.

You must be doing this on purpose.

This is the same thing as the last thread, he complained about abuse. Is booing abuse?

 

[Danetheblade]

So you're saying if the team puts in a shit performance while I'm manager, the thing that happens to all teams every now and again, I'll get sacked regardless of the overall context? Fuck that.

Is it one shit performance though? It’s been a consistent theme all season, poor performance, scrape through the match. Recently the tides changed whereas we’re not getting away with one goal leads, backs to the wall defensive performances. We’re now unable to break teams down.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Is it one shit performance though? It’s been a consistent theme all season, poor performance, scrape through the match. Recently the tides changed whereas we’re not getting away with one goal leads, backs to the wall defensive performances. We’re now unable to break teams down.

You said that "we don't tolerate shit performances".

 

[Danetheblade]

You said that "we don't tolerate shit performances".

Yeah we shouldn’t, do you? Do you accept that all apart from 5/6 games have been shit performances where we’ve rode our luck?

 

[AWetFlannel]

Yeah we shouldn’t, do you? Do you accept that all apart from 5/6 games have been shit performances where we’ve rode our luck?

I tolerate shit performances, yes. Man City have put in shit performances in the last five years despite winning the league every season. If you're a football fan and you can't tolerate a thing which is guaranteed to happen, you should spend your time doing something where you can have those guarantees.

 

[Danetheblade]

I tolerate shit performances, yes. Man City have put in shit performances in the last five years despite winning the league every season. If you're a football fan and you can't tolerate a thing which is guaranteed to happen, you should spend your time doing something where you can have those guarantees.

You’re talking chalk and cheese comparing us to Man City.

I can accept the loses, can I accept the loses based on shit performances in which we’ve won a lot of games based on shit performances? Nah.

 

[AWetFlannel]

You’re talking chalk and cheese comparing us to Man City.

I can accept the loses, can I accept the loses based on shit performances in which we’ve won a lot of games based on shit performances? Nah.

I'm not comparing us to Man City.

So you agree with me then, you will tolerate shit performances. Glad we could clear that up.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

So you're saying if the team puts in a shit performance while I'm manager, the thing that happens to all teams every now and again, I'll get sacked regardless of the overall context? Fuck that.

It's not been every now and then though has it? It's been all season but it got ignored because "results matter more". Good performances bring good results and will likely achive this. Poor performances rely solely on luck and at some point it will run out.

If by some miracle we do go up then I'd like to know what the "results first" camp would say if we're getting outplayed every week and losing. All of a sudden will performance matter?

 

[Not_a_Cheat]

How can it be in our own hands? We're 2pts behind so relying on others isn't having it in your own hands!

I'm hoping you are joking, but if we win all 5, or 4 and a draw, as long as that draw isn't against Burnley, then yes of course it's in our own hands....

 

[paidsy]

I'm hoping you are joking, but if we win all 5, or 4 and a draw, as long as that draw isn't against Burnley, then yes of course it's in our own hands....

If we beat Burnley and draw one of the other we need them to drop points twice in their last 5...

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

Plymouth will be the hardest of this trilogy of "we should have won games" glad I'm working on a Saturday for once

 

[ml1997]

Ridiculous.

As our manager has rebuilt us twice and transformed us from an average league one team to a top end championship club. He’s done a brilliant job this year, our squad until Jan was above average for the level and since Jan we’ve maintained the pace with a squad not as good as Burnley’s or Leeds.

Also, he signed a new contract a couple months ago and he was allowed to spend a fair amount in January, so the new owners obviously back him. If we don’t go up and aren’t in the top 6 in October time I’d expect him to be sacked though.

 

[JJBlade]

I tolerate shit performances, yes. Man City have put in shit performances in the last five years despite winning the league every season. If you're a football fan and you can't tolerate a thing which is guaranteed to happen, you should spend your time doing something where you can have those guarantees.

We've tolerated shit performances for over 50 years that I've been a fan and enjoyed the good ones too.
But this club and manager especially take it to a new level, it's shit when we win, it's shit even when we get promoted, it's just non stop shit, shit, shit, shit, camouflaged by crap, boring, unconvincing scrappy wins.

Every team that is top of the league after 39 games has given someone a good hiding at some point, but not us. After all it's only shitty old us and boring is all we can ever expect or deserve. And that word "Deserve" is the crucial one, too many people at this club think you, me and the rest of us deserve fuck all.
They and especially Wilder believes that the average Sheffielder has such a drab existence that they can continue the drabness in the way they play football, and it will just be accepted

 

[mattbianco1]

Always been a thorn in our side these cockney twats

It does feel like that, but in our last 10 games against them the record is:- W5 D1 L4. Fairly even

Since 2000, the record stands at:- W12 D4 L12 - identical record

Our overall record dating back to 1895 is:- W27 D10 L27 - identical record

 

[Super Furry Blades]

It does feel like that, but in our last 10 games against them the record is:- W5 D1 L4. Fairly even

Since 2000, the record stands at:- W12 D4 L12 - identical record

Our overall record dating back to 1895 is:- W27 D10 L27 - identical record

Its a poor record against a club of that caliber

 

[RAP51]

Its a poor record against a club of that caliber

As others have said, sacking Wilder at this stage of the season solves nothing. He is a decent manager but as we all do, he makes mistakes. However he is stubborn and has difficulty accepting he has got things wrong often persisting with tactical and player choices when they are not working out.
He has always realised how important our supporters are in motivating the players and therefore should not be criticising the travelling fans after an abject performance. This is often the starting point in a managers decline and eventual sacking.
I noticed last night he was much more humble in his attitude.
I accept that fans have the right to boo the players but even this is counter productive. We have a young team in a much higher position than most expected and booing them at a low point for them as well as us isn't going to boost their confidence.
I've watched the Blades for over 60 years and seen hundreds of players more deserving of criticism.
The only player in all that time that I booed was Marlon King when his name was announced on his debut and that had nothing to do with his ability.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

If we dont go up, I think our new owners will be thinking of making a change. US businessmen dont tolerate failure. I think CW knows this as well.

 

[Back post bob]

Credit should be given to opposition Managers and Coaches,Simply they have worked us out and we are unable to adapt.Plymouth must be relishing this Saturday it will be more of the same sadly.

 

[Houston_Blade]

After Oxford he spoke about wanting consistency from the fans.

When he joined the club he said he knew the sort of football Blades fans wanted to see, and he produced it, no doubt about it, front foot & exciting.

Cut to this season, and he must know that we are really difficult to watch, it’s rarely enjoyable and there isn’t much exciting about grinding out 1-0 wins. So his narrative has changed. Producing performances that the fans enjoy watching no longer matters, the only thing that counts is points.

Which is fine, but you’ve changed your tune, Chris. Where’s your consistency?

The narrative has changed now to “result over performance”.

He’ll be getting the excuses around the points deduction ready next.

Given our record against top 4 teams so far this season I can’t see any better than a draw at Burnley, that means we need to win 1 more game than them out of the other 4. The best way to do that now is to attack teams and stop fucking about at the edge of the opposition box expecting something to happen.

Has he got the balls?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Wilder is coming in for a fair bit of criticism at the minute, and rightly so.

But never forget how far we've come.

 

[Big.Dane.w]

Unreal though wanting him sacked so close to end of season

Is it that unreal though? It’s a good squad, I honestly believe any half decent manager could come in and set a team up from this squad capable of winning the last 5 games. I don’t believe wilder can.

 

[Zero dark thirty]

Is it that unreal though? It’s a good squad, I honestly believe any half decent manager could come in and set a team up from this squad capable of winning the last 5 games. I don’t believe wilder can.

Fair comment

 

[Slugger]

Help me out here.

1. Wilder is at fault for buying shite players?

2. We've got a brilliant squad and Wilder is at fault because he won't be able to make them win every one of the last 5 games of the season.

You do realise that both of the above can't be true?

 

[Bladesman]

Wilder is coming in for a fair bit of criticism at the minute, and rightly so.

But never forget how far we've come.

Keep in mind we got rid of him fairly quickly.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Keep in mind we got rid of him fairly quickly.

Worst manager we've ever had by some distance.

 

[Hartley Hare]

Not sure I will get out of bed again after reading that lot. Phew.........

Shoes on.

HH

 

[Bladesman]

Worst manager we've ever had by some distance.

In fairness to him, at least he knows his limits. He hasn't tried to use his name and go on to other clubs tricking them into hiring him as manager like many former PL players do.

He is still technical director at Brighton and doing alright it would seem.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Worst manager we've ever had by some distance.

Very highly respected in the football world with good reason. He’s not a manager, but he’s been a huge success at Brighton.