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paidsy said:
What's he drilling into them on the training pitch?

Because they appear to have no concept of any gameplan or style of play.
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We've had a game plan all season, get in front, tough to break down, hard to beat, it's got us more wins than anyone else in this league.

It's worked against plenty of sides this season but not worked against other sides, but that's what happens sometimes in football.

What happened tonight, was Millwall played well, found a way to cancel us out and beat us, fair play to them, they played well and deserved to win.

If there's one thing I will criticise CW for, it's that he tries to play all his best players at the same time (which is understandable as most managers want to do that) but it messes with the 4-2-3-1 system sometimes e.g BBD being inconsistent at RW and Hamer not playing his better CM position.

The main priority right now, is for us to try and bounce back against Plymouth, and we're kicking off before everyone else so that might take a bit of the pressure off the players.
 

Zero dark thirty said:
Fucking ell you still got a chance for automatically promoted and some posts are laughable..he was your God 2 weeks ago now you want him gone...
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I suspect not the same people. Bed wetter's generally keep their sheets dry until the next blip, before melting down again.
 
alcoblade said:
I suspect not the same people. Bed wetter's generally keep their sheets dry until the next blip, before melting down again.
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Whilst often happy clappers refuse to accept that anything is wrong and cannot see the blindingly obvious as they fear they may lose their status as Bladiest Blade ever if they say anything negative or critical. I'd rather people are just honest. When we're good, say we're good. When we're bad, say we're bad.
 
Wilders ego cost us three points tonight, he kept the same starting 11 that had dropped 3 points at Oxford, purely as a ‘Fuck you’ to the fan base, who dared to criticise their performance on Saturday.

Unfortunately, it backfired spectacularly for him and they produced an equally inept display tonight. Only it didn’t just backfire for him, it also massively backfired for the loyal supporters, who turn up every week, who he implores to be the 12th man, many who live and breath Sheffield United, who’s lives revolve around the club.

But sadly, he couldn’t resist the opportunity to show everyone, that he knew best and through pure arrogance, he put his own personal interests, above the interests of the club and the supporters. If he was half the manager he thinks he is, he’d identify that the team needed to be freshened up.

Wilder is all too fond of telling United fans, if you want to cheer and enjoy the victories from good performances, then you shouldn’t boo or condemn the failures that come from the bad performances. Well he should take a look in the mirror, because he, loves to soak up the praise and attention for the Wednesdays & Coventry performances, so he should equally, accept responsibility for the Oxfords and Millwalls, he should show some humility and admit his mistakes, because no two ways about it, he has massively fucked up tonight.
 
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loyalblade95 said:
Fair enough, performances I can agree with, we've had some bad performances but we're still in the auto race, and we're not there by accident we've earned our place in the top 3 by being one of the better sides this season.

But CW can only do so much during games, he can't put on a pair of boots and play the game for the players, it's on them to go out and win the game.

We have got a chance of going up this season with Wilder, we sack him and we've got zero chance of going up this season.
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Nobody wants to sack him this season…That would be just plain stupid. But you have to question his sheer bloody mindedness when it comes to making tactical changes especially when we’re up against it.
 
1889 said:
Wilders ego cost us three points tonight, he kept the same starting 11 that had dropped 3 points at Oxford, purely as a ‘Fuck you’ to the fan base, who dared to criticise their performance on Saturday.

Unfortunately, it backfired spectacularly for him and they produced an equally inept display tonight. Only it didn’t just backfire for him, it also massively backfired for the loyal supporters, who turn up every week, who he implores to be the 12th man, many who live and breath Sheffield United, who’s lives revolve around the club.

But sadly, he couldn’t resist the opportunity to show everyone, that he knew best and through pure arrogance, he put his own personal interests, above the interests of the club and the supporters. If he was half the manager he thinks he is, he’d identify that the team needed to be freshened up.

Wilder is all too fond of telling United fans, if you want to cheer and enjoy the victories from good performances, then you shouldn’t boo or condemn the failures that come from the bad performances. Well he should take a look in the mirror, because he, loves to soak up the praise and attention for the Wednesdays & Coventry performances, so he should equally, accept responsibility for the Oxfords and Millwalls, he should show some humility and admit his mistakes, because no two ways about it, he has massively fucked up tonight.
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Every fan I spoke to before and after the game were all of the same opinion…If all the players were fit, we should have played our best team. The warnings were all there in the Oxford game.
 
Some of the players played well. But as a team we were tactically inept. The lack of tactical nous by Wilder was on full display.
The 352 formation served us well for a few seasons but we became glued to it even when it was being contained by opposition.

This season we go doggedly in the 4231 formation and can't seem to grasp that when this is contained that we should try something different. But that only goes to part of the problem.

The major issue is our attacking play. How many times did we slow it down on the wings and not get a decent cross in. The problem is our full backs are asked to play as wingers. Which means our wide players end up getting on the ball and play it to the full backs who are ahead of them. This also leaves our defense open to quick counter attacks. Which then leads to Hamza dropping too deep, Peck alone in the middle of the park with few options. Mostly it's going wide, move it back across the edge of the box creating fuck all.
 
RecordBreakers said:
Ye seriously, u can say win our 5 games were up.. but then your relying on Burnley to slip up against us!! So either way your relying on someone as well as yourself!
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My mum always said “there are some people who aren’t worth arguing with” 🤣

Yes it’s in our own hands. Win all our games we get promoted. Do you not understand that or are you just arguing for arguments sake?
 
I don’t know how to feel about Wilder TBH.

On the one hand 3rd place i think is pretty bloody good considering I thought he wouldn't achieve anything like that this season. So to me its still an overachievement.

Considering the situation we were in though, top, it’s a huge let down to not capitalise on the opportunity.

The rebuild is hit and miss, I think he’s signed some good players but also some shite. Still not convinced he has a good eye for players in the market and wouldn’t trust him with money. He has a ‘type’ and they tend to be quite limited. If we want to build for the premier league we would have to gut the team if we went up. Perhaps thats just the norm now as the gulf between the leagues is so great.

The style of football is poor, rarely have i seen this season, consistently, something that resembles a team that can upset teams or challenge for a title. We are a bit cautious, slow and predictable and reliant too much on being ‘solid’ but lack cutting edge, and dynamic play.

That plus all his stupid media comments, sandwiches, slagging off the fans, bit of an ego etc. I find it a bit cringey at times.

This is a very different wilder tactically to the one who took us to the prem years back and to be honest i’ve not enjoyed much of this season. ‘Winning’ but in the dullest way possible I’ve found really challenging to enjoy.

I do think any change of manager would be pointless until end of the season but TBH i wouldn’t be upset to see the back of Wilder as long as we can get someone more cultured in who plays dynamic football.
 

Silly saying get him gone but the inability to make notable changes when it's not working isn't a good look.

You see lesser teams change shape or formation that has an effect. Don't see that enough from us.
 
If we go up we start next season with Wilder in charge, with a Brexit team of "solid championship pros" and we all know what will happen.

If we bottle promotion he could, (should) get the bullet.

Choices!
 
SUFCinks said:
I don’t know how to feel about Wilder TBH.

On the one hand 3rd place i think is pretty bloody good considering I thought he wouldn't achieve anything like that this season. So to me its still an overachievement.

Considering the situation we were in though, top, it’s a huge let down to not capitalise on the opportunity.

The rebuild is hit and miss, I think he’s signed some good players but also some shite. Still not convinced he has a good eye for players in the market and wouldn’t trust him with money. He has a ‘type’ and they tend to be quite limited. If we want to build for the premier league we would have to gut the team if we went up. Perhaps thats just the norm now as the gulf between the leagues is so great.

The style of football is poor, rarely have i seen this season, consistently, something that resembles a team that can upset teams or challenge for a title. We are a bit cautious, slow and predictable and reliant too much on being ‘solid’ but lack cutting edge, and dynamic play.

That plus all his stupid media comments, sandwiches, slagging off the fans, bit of an ego etc. I find it a bit cringey at times.

This is a very different wilder tactically to the one who took us to the prem years back and to be honest i’ve not enjoyed much of this season. ‘Winning’ but in the dullest way possible I’ve found really challenging to enjoy.

I do think any change of manager would be pointless until end of the season but TBH i wouldn’t be upset to see the back of Wilder as long as we can get someone more cultured in who plays dynamic football.
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I agree completely.
 
There’s a temptation to get carried away after two bad defeats, but last night was worrying.

We made three subs to try and get back in the game at one point but we didn’t change the formation at any point, didn’t try and adapt at any point. Didn’t really even go all out to salvage a point in the last 5 minutes.

I’ve stuck up for Wilder on here & I still don’t fall into the trap of ‘get him out’ but last night again was worryingly bad.
 
Davalon said:
Silly saying get him gone but the inability to make notable changes when it's not working isn't a good look.

You see lesser teams change shape or formation that has an effect. Don't see that enough from us.
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It's always been the same with Wilder unfortunately; system is great when it works, but when it doesn't, there's never a plan b and it's this reason why I'm certainly reluctant about having him in charge should we manage to make it up.
 
After Oxford he spoke about wanting consistency from the fans.

When he joined the club he said he knew the sort of football Blades fans wanted to see, and he produced it, no doubt about it, front foot & exciting.

Cut to this season, and he must know that we are really difficult to watch, it’s rarely enjoyable and there isn’t much exciting about grinding out 1-0 wins. So his narrative has changed. Producing performances that the fans enjoy watching no longer matters, the only thing that counts is points.

Which is fine, but you’ve changed your tune, Chris. Where’s your consistency?
 
MagnifiqueShorehamStreet said:
I understand the sentiment behind your point, and to some degree have sympathy with it,but, saying the same catchphrase over and over again, can make you appear, a bit dull and lacking in originality.
Rock on Tommy!
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It's kinder than my real thoughts though - there's a certain type of poster that does it, because I never meet anyone like it away from social media. Basically socially inadequate and unheard - social media gives them something lacking for them in the real world - attention by anyone.
 
Well done Wilder your little outburst on the fans on Saturday and the fuck you I'm playing the same team bullied them into stunned silence on Tuesday night. The points are gone no use back tracking in the post match interview the damage has been done. Of course you know best.
 
What irritates me about some managers and Wilder is one of them, is that they have absolutely zero respect for football supporters knowledge of the game. Some of whom, will have been watching games and many different players, longer than he’s been alive. I’d even say, that there will be several people watching the game, who given the opportunity would be a better manager than him and many of his peers.

In my experience the collective opinion of several thousand supporters is very rarely wide of the mark. Instead of condemning that or railing against it, a wise man would take it as a cue for reflection and change.

Hopefully he’ll be doing that over his cornflakes this morning, though somehow, I doubt it.
 

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