Failure to control our players

[Balham]

I make that four charges over 19 games this season. That's quite impressive. I don't think (it's hard to find any evidence either way) that the punishment can extend to points deductions but we must be testing the patience of the FA.

Wrexham (H): they score a consolation goal in the 93rd minute. Peck gets to the ball in the back of the net first, Wrexham players come steaming in to get it. Melée ensues. £8,500 fine.

Watford (H): Jebbison tangles with Souttar just after Hamer takes out one of their players to stop a counter. Players from both sides pile in. £17,000 fine.

Portsmouth (A): Seriki is taken out bursting through but the referee blows for full time before we can take the kick. Souza, in particular, is incensed. Portsmouth's keeper gets involved unnecessarily. Both teams pile in. £40,000 fine.

Coventry (A): Ahmedhozic reacts to some classic shithousery from Norman Bassatte and is sent off just before half time. Melée ensues in the tunnel, presumably centred around Bassatte. Sanction to be determined but it might well be £100k.

Do we have a problem? Or are we just unfortunate? It's good that the players stick up for each other but maybe we need a few calmer heads at times. The Wrexham incident was sparked by their players piling in unnecessarily but the Watford incident was probably caused by our players. Pompey was down to the incompetence of the referee; Coventry was our players reacting to Bassatte.

 

[wizadry]

I make that four charges over 19 games this season. That's quite impressive. I don't think (it's hard to find any evidence either way) that the punishment can extend to points deductions but we must be testing the patience of the FA.

Wrexham (H): they score a consolation goal in the 93rd minute. Peck gets to the ball in the back of the net first, Wrexham players come steaming in to get it. Melée ensues. £8,500 fine.

Watford (H): Jebbison tangles with Souttar just after Hamer takes out one of their players to stop a counter. Players from both sides pile in. £17,000 fine.

Portsmouth (A): Seriki is taken out bursting through but the referee blows for full time before we can take the kick. Souza, in particular, is incensed. Portsmouth's keeper gets involved unnecessarily. Both teams pile in. £40,000 fine.

Coventry (A): Ahmedhozic reacts to some classic shithousery from Norman Bassatte and is sent off just before half time. Melée ensues in the tunnel, presumably centred around Bassatte. Sanction to be determined but it might well be £100k.

Do we have a problem? Or are we just unfortunate? It's good that the players stick up for each other but maybe we need a few calmer heads at times. The Wrexham incident was sparked by their players piling in unnecessarily but the Watford incident was probably caused by our players. Pompey was down to the incompetence of the referee; Coventry was our players reacting to Bassatte.

Do we know if Coventry have also been charged for their part in their courthousery?

 

[McGrath]

I think the players are committed and have each others backs. That's a good thing, even if it incurs the wrath of the FA

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

How many have other clubs had though?

Are we getting done more than anyone else?

 

[Grey Blade]

Whilst our players should have shown more self control, I hope the FA take account of the provocation.
Sounds a bit childish but they started it

 

[Idontlikewednesdays]

I make that four charges over 19 games this season. That's quite impressive. I don't think (it's hard to find any evidence either way) that the punishment can extend to points deductions but we must be testing the patience of the FA.

Wrexham (H): they score a consolation goal in the 93rd minute. Peck gets to the ball in the back of the net first, Wrexham players come steaming in to get it. Melée ensues. £8,500 fine.

Watford (H): Jebbison tangles with Souttar just after Hamer takes out one of their players to stop a counter. Players from both sides pile in. £17,000 fine.

Portsmouth (A): Seriki is taken out bursting through but the referee blows for full time before we can take the kick. Souza, in particular, is incensed. Portsmouth's keeper gets involved unnecessarily. Both teams pile in. £40,000 fine.

Coventry (A): Ahmedhozic reacts to some classic shithousery from Norman Bassatte and is sent off just before half time. Melée ensues in the tunnel, presumably centred around Bassatte. Sanction to be determined but it might well be £100k.

Do we have a problem? Or are we just unfortunate? It's good that the players stick up for each other but maybe we need a few calmer heads at times. The Wrexham incident was sparked by their players piling in unnecessarily but the Watford incident was probably caused by our players. Pompey was down to the incompetence of the referee; Coventry was our players reacting to Bassatte.

Yes we have a problem. Great to see the commitment from the players, but we overstep in the mark and are easily wound up.

 

[Bladesman]

I make that four charges over 19 games this season. That's quite impressive. I don't think (it's hard to find any evidence either way) that the punishment can extend to points deductions but we must be testing the patience of the FA.

Wrexham (H): they score a consolation goal in the 93rd minute. Peck gets to the ball in the back of the net first, Wrexham players come steaming in to get it. Melée ensues. £8,500 fine.

Watford (H): Jebbison tangles with Souttar just after Hamer takes out one of their players to stop a counter. Players from both sides pile in. £17,000 fine.

Portsmouth (A): Seriki is taken out bursting through but the referee blows for full time before we can take the kick. Souza, in particular, is incensed. Portsmouth's keeper gets involved unnecessarily. Both teams pile in. £40,000 fine.

Coventry (A): Ahmedhozic reacts to some classic shithousery from Norman Bassatte and is sent off just before half time. Melée ensues in the tunnel, presumably centred around Bassatte. Sanction to be determined but it might well be £100k.

Do we have a problem? Or are we just unfortunate? It's good that the players stick up for each other but maybe we need a few calmer heads at times. The Wrexham incident was sparked by their players piling in unnecessarily but the Watford incident was probably caused by our players. Pompey was down to the incompetence of the referee; Coventry was our players reacting to Bassatte.

What's annoying is that in some of these cases we are not the instigators of the melees yet we are on the end of the bigger fine.

 

[SwissBlade]

I make that four charges over 19 games this season. That's quite impressive. I don't think (it's hard to find any evidence either way) that the punishment can extend to points deductions but we must be testing the patience of the FA.

Wrexham (H): they score a consolation goal in the 93rd minute. Peck gets to the ball in the back of the net first, Wrexham players come steaming in to get it. Melée ensues. £8,500 fine.

Watford (H): Jebbison tangles with Souttar just after Hamer takes out one of their players to stop a counter. Players from both sides pile in. £17,000 fine.

Portsmouth (A): Seriki is taken out bursting through but the referee blows for full time before we can take the kick. Souza, in particular, is incensed. Portsmouth's keeper gets involved unnecessarily. Both teams pile in. £40,000 fine.

Coventry (A): Ahmedhozic reacts to some classic shithousery from Norman Bassatte and is sent off just before half time. Melée ensues in the tunnel, presumably centred around Bassatte. Sanction to be determined but it might well be £100k.

Do we have a problem? Or are we just unfortunate? It's good that the players stick up for each other but maybe we need a few calmer heads at times. The Wrexham incident was sparked by their players piling in unnecessarily but the Watford incident was probably caused by our players. Pompey was down to the incompetence of the referee; Coventry was our players reacting to Bassatte.

The FA seems to use this as an easy money maker like police use Speed Cameras.

But the pompey one at £40k is insane as you say, it was just a strange flash point.

I like the way we play and we’re not afraid to get involved in a bit of handbags as it seems to affect opposition more than us. But sides like to rough us up

But yes, regardless of the conclusion of each event, I agree with your summary btw, the FA are going to look at it as just the number of incidents rather than the actual scenario and come down heavy. Meanwhile sides get away with diving, cheating and some nasty tackles

 

[Idontlikewednesdays]

How many have other clubs had though?

Are we getting done more than anyone else?

Yes, of course we are, but that’s because we have been misbehaving. We will no doubt soon be put in detention.

 

[Agreasychipbutty]

This seems like pointless meddling by the FA to me. I'm not just saying that because it's against us I would feel the same about any team being fined for these sorts of incidents. None of those listed were serious or put anyone in any harm, just handbags between riled up passionate players. The most serious of them was Anels red but it's clear in the replays there is no force or danger to the player (not arguing it's not a red) so I don't see the need for any further punishment. Surely yellow (or red where needed) cards for the instigators is plenty?

 

[FredZeppelin]

Our players are obviously a reyt nasty set of cunts.

I'm ok with that personally.

utb

 

[Balham]

Do we know if Coventry have also been charged for their part in their courthousery?

They have indeed.

The FA seems to use this as an easy money maker like police use Speed Cameras.

But the pompey one at £40k is insane as you say, it was just a strange flash point.

I like the way we play and we’re not afraid to get involved in a bit of handbags as it seems to affect opposition more than us. But sides like to rough us up

But yes, regardless of the conclusion of each event, I agree with your summary btw, the FA are going to look at it as just the number of incidents rather than the actual scenario and come down heavy. Meanwhile sides get away with diving, cheating and some nasty tackles

Pompey was £60k, reduced by a third as we accepted the charge and it was only that high because it was our third proven charge of the season. Pompey got a £6k fine.

This one (if proven) will start at £75k.

 

[Bladesman]

Our players are obviously a reyt nasty set of cunts.

I'm ok with that personally.

utb

Most incidents were just a bit of pushing and shoving that were eventually dealt with by the ref.

Yet big PL clubs can have their players surround the ref after every poor decision and not get so much as a booking.

 

[HarryHaslam]

Tight bunch who have each others back, always makes great team moral and many promotion winning team groups have this mentality, one in all in Blades

 

[SwissBlade]

They have indeed.

Pompey was £60k, reduced by a third as we accepted the charge and it was only that high because it was our third proven charge of the season. Pompey got a £6k fine.

This one (if proven) will start at £75k.

That’s bizarre. Like the points deduction, we accept and move on. But we’re not an inherently aggressive or dirty side, we do encourage sides to get involved and we’re happy to get stuck in with them.

We’re a physically imposing side, but we don’t start it all but seem to get the big fines because of previous.

Maybe we should’ve just appealed the Wrexham one as we didn’t start it but we made sure it ended

 

[Stretch]

I have absolutely no issue with what the manager and players did on Saturday. That shithouse deserved a talking to in the tunnel (at least).

Our other rucks have been less easy to condone, but at the same time it's nice to have a team who don't take any crap.

 

[Blade56]

Any manager worth his salt will use this situation to use Bassetts antics to try and wind our players up for the rest of the season.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Not one proper scrap in all that, what a pathetic set of reasons for fines. Back in the day wouldn’t even have warranted a passing comment

 

[ben1987]

Worth £100k if someone slotted that cunt one in the tunnel

 

[North Shields Blade]

An individual player’s failure to control himself may well have cost us two points on Saturday.

If we’re fined £100k for the stuff in the tunnel that’s a significant penalty. How many season tickets do you have to sell to generate that sum?

I don’t know if ultimately there’s power to deduct points for repeated offending of this kind but if there is then we’re running a serious risk of that happening and that would really cost us on top of the existing deduction we’ve already suffered.

Bad behaviour isn’t necessary for “team bonding” or to prove that the players “have each other’s backs”.

It’s down to Wilder. He should be drumming into players that they should do everything they can to avoid getting sent off or accumulating bookings that lead to suspensions and he should be drumming into them that running towards flare-ups and pushing or grabbing hold of opponents is stupid and likely to have adverse consequences.

But it feels like mine is a minority view on here

 

[Bert]

An individual player’s failure to control himself may well have cost us two points on Saturday.

If we’re fined £100k for the stuff in the tunnel that’s a significant penalty. How many season tickets do you have to sell to generate that sum?

I don’t know if ultimately there’s power to deduct points for repeated offending of this kind but if there is then we’re running a serious risk of that happening and that would really cost us on top of the existing deduction we’ve already suffered.

Bad behaviour isn’t necessary for “team bonding” or to prove that the players “have each other’s backs”.

It’s down to Wilder. He should be drumming into players that they should do everything they can to avoid getting sent off or accumulating bookings that lead to suspensions and he should be drumming into them that running towards flare-ups and pushing or grabbing hold of opponents is stupid and likely to have adverse consequences.

But it feels like mine is a minority view on here

Bert agrees, the players responsible should pay the fine.

 

[Tom Bott]

I make that four charges over 19 games this season. That's quite impressive. I don't think (it's hard to find any evidence either way) that the punishment can extend to points deductions but we must be testing the patience of the FA.

Wrexham (H): they score a consolation goal in the 93rd minute. Peck gets to the ball in the back of the net first, Wrexham players come steaming in to get it. Melée ensues. £8,500 fine.

Watford (H): Jebbison tangles with Souttar just after Hamer takes out one of their players to stop a counter. Players from both sides pile in. £17,000 fine.

Portsmouth (A): Seriki is taken out bursting through but the referee blows for full time before we can take the kick. Souza, in particular, is incensed. Portsmouth's keeper gets involved unnecessarily. Both teams pile in. £40,000 fine.

Coventry (A): Ahmedhozic reacts to some classic shithousery from Norman Bassatte and is sent off just before half time. Melée ensues in the tunnel, presumably centred around Bassatte. Sanction to be determined but it might well be £100k.

Do we have a problem? Or are we just unfortunate? It's good that the players stick up for each other but maybe we need a few calmer heads at times. The Wrexham incident was sparked by their players piling in unnecessarily but the Watford incident was probably caused by our players. Pompey was down to the incompetence of the referee; Coventry was our players reacting to Bassatte.

How much will Chris Wilder be fined for standing on a table and singing about sausage rolls ?

 

[Grey Blade]

Bert agrees, the players responsible should pay the fine.

That's the logical solution if the punishment is a fine. It's no more than a week's wages if shared amongst the involved players.

 

[Stretch]

An individual player’s failure to control himself may well have cost us two points on Saturday.

If we’re fined £100k for the stuff in the tunnel that’s a significant penalty. How many season tickets do you have to sell to generate that sum?

I don’t know if ultimately there’s power to deduct points for repeated offending of this kind but if there is then we’re running a serious risk of that happening and that would really cost us on top of the existing deduction we’ve already suffered.

Bad behaviour isn’t necessary for “team bonding” or to prove that the players “have each other’s backs”.

It’s down to Wilder. He should be drumming into players that they should do everything they can to avoid getting sent off or accumulating bookings that lead to suspensions and he should be drumming into them that running towards flare-ups and pushing or grabbing hold of opponents is stupid and likely to have adverse consequences.

But it feels like mine is a minority view on here

Well he (Wilder) said that he was disappointed in Anel, had explicitly told him so and that he knew he shouldn't have reacted like that. Which suggests that players do have a clear idea of what is expected. You see these group handbag sessions every matchday though, up and down the divisions. I am sure there are very few managers encouraging their players to do it, but in the heat of a game tempers flare a bit.

I think it's partly the nature of the game and what it does to people. How often have you been sat at a match and the seemingly mild mannered gentleman or lady in front of you has suddenly leapt from their seat and launched a volley of language at the referee or an opposition player that would strip the paint of your walls? Players may be paid to keep their cool, but they can't be completely immune from a bit of pashun, especially when provoked. I agree though that we need to cool it down from here on in.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Do we know if Coventry have also been charged for their part in their courthousery?

A fracas then erupted in the tunnel with referee Darren Bond’s whistle heard in a bid to break up the two sides. Although the exact nature of the incident was not disclosed at the time it is understood to have been included in Bond’s report, with both sides consequently hit with an FA charge earlier today.

According to the Star, yes.

 

[Snowflake]

I think the players are committed and have each others backs. That's a good thing, even if it incurs the wrath of the FA

No, it’s not a good thing if it is costing us money or a potential ban. It may make refs wary of us to our detriment with more bookings and suspensions.
Sticking up for each other is good, but we don’t need everyone piling in nor reacting after the incident as with Coventry.

 

[KiwiBlabe]

Meanwhile the winking Coventry cheat is free to go on his way with no sanction. Even some on this thread suggesting he should be a role model for how to play against us.
Not everything about the modern game is rubbish, but there are very large parts that are.

 

[sitwell]

Take passion out of the game, along with tackling , common sense and entertainment. Heading will be next. I would like 5 minutes in the FA head office.

 

[robbiez666]

I make that four charges over 19 games this season. That's quite impressive. I don't think (it's hard to find any evidence either way) that the punishment can extend to points deductions but we must be testing the patience of the FA.

Wrexham (H): they score a consolation goal in the 93rd minute. Peck gets to the ball in the back of the net first, Wrexham players come steaming in to get it. Melée ensues. £8,500 fine.

Watford (H): Jebbison tangles with Souttar just after Hamer takes out one of their players to stop a counter. Players from both sides pile in. £17,000 fine.

Portsmouth (A): Seriki is taken out bursting through but the referee blows for full time before we can take the kick. Souza, in particular, is incensed. Portsmouth's keeper gets involved unnecessarily. Both teams pile in. £40,000 fine.

Coventry (A): Ahmedhozic reacts to some classic shithousery from Norman Bassatte and is sent off just before half time. Melée ensues in the tunnel, presumably centred around Bassatte. Sanction to be determined but it might well be £100k.

Do we have a problem? Or are we just unfortunate? It's good that the players stick up for each other but maybe we need a few calmer heads at times. The Wrexham incident was sparked by their players piling in unnecessarily but the Watford incident was probably caused by our players. Pompey was down to the incompetence of the referee; Coventry was our players reacting to Bassatte.

We have a big problem if we can't pay them!

 

[Trigger]

The irony is the club is charged with failing to control the players, when in fact it all stems from the fact that the referee failed to control the players.
Had he done his job it wouldn’t have happened.
Maybe he should pay the fine.