Compared with last season...

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grafikhaus said:
46 points after last night. :( This is why stats., tables etc. are unreliable with such a small sample size. After we beat Brentford, we were on course for 138 points over the season. After the defeat at Middlesbrough, we were looking at a projection of 69 points. After Cardiff, we've got three points from three games, ergo 46 points over this season.



I'm working on it. I see what you mean but, as we all know, the Championship now is a different beast to 2010/11 when we were last relegated from the Championship. For example, Palace, Leicester and Swansea were in the Championship that season. Just as I changed the format last season to comparing 2016/17 to season 2011/12 as comparing last season to Adkins' diabolical effort would be futile, this year I've decided to compare United this season to last season (2016/17) in the Championship. (I don't think we'll get 100 points this season...) It's what I call the 'safe zone'


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Obviously, I'm open to suggestions. I've really got nowt better to do...:D
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This is probably a lot to ask of you grafikhaus but wouldnt it be a truer reflection of what we need to achieve if we follow a graph comparing us against the average points needed to achieve a) 21st (avoiding relegation), b) 12th place finish (I.e top half), and c) 6th (play offs) over the last 6 seasons (I.e the time we've been away from this league.

Appreciate that's 6 seasons of data to input, but if we have those three average lines to chart against, we have a more accurate representation of how we are doing month-by-month, game-by-game.

Hope that makes some sense - what do we think?
 

Interesting to see the change at game 6 or 7.
Forest started same as us, hit a bit of form and fell away.
Leeds struggled, hit game 6 and had a decent season.
Cheers for doing the stats again Graffers.
 
beatific blade said:
This is probably a lot to ask of you grafikhaus but wouldnt it be a truer reflection of what we need to achieve if we follow a graph comparing us against the average points needed to achieve a) 21st (avoiding relegation), b) 12th place finish (I.e top half), and c) 6th (play offs) over the last 6 seasons (I.e the time we've been away from this league.

Appreciate that's 6 seasons of data to input, but if we have those three average lines to chart against, we have a more accurate representation of how we are doing month-by-month, game-by-game.

Hope that makes some sense - what do we think?
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I think Mr grafikhaus has done something similar before using the mean of the previous x seasons. But as he says, he's got nowt else to do so I'm sure he won't mind;)
 
beatific blade said:
This is probably a lot to ask of you grafikhaus but wouldnt it be a truer reflection of what we need to achieve if we follow a graph comparing us against the average points needed to achieve a) 21st (avoiding relegation), b) 12th place finish (I.e top half), and c) 6th (play offs) over the last 6 seasons (I.e the time we've been away from this league.

Appreciate that's 6 seasons of data to input, but if we have those three average lines to chart against, we have a more accurate representation of how we are doing month-by-month, game-by-game.

Hope that makes some sense - what do we think?
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He says he has nothing better to do, so he is just been lazy if he can't spend the time to work this out :)
 
beatific blade said:
This is probably a lot to ask of you grafikhaus but wouldnt it be a truer reflection of what we need to achieve if we follow a graph comparing us against the average points needed to achieve a) 21st (avoiding relegation), b) 12th place finish (I.e top half), and c) 6th (play offs) over the last 6 seasons (I.e the time we've been away from this league.

Appreciate that's 6 seasons of data to input, but if we have those three average lines to chart against, we have a more accurate representation of how we are doing month-by-month, game-by-game.

Hope that makes some sense - what do we think?
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I know what I think, but it's unprintable! As I've said, it's far too early to work out how this season will pan out, but I'll be looking for ways to make it relevant (if there's such a thing). It's the 'Chaos Theory'. But I'll leave you with a couple of uninteresting stats. On 20th September 2003, I was in New York. Getting back to my neighbourhood bar (the Tap-A-Keg on Broadway) I asked the barman to find out how the Blades had done against Cardiff at home. He said 'The Blades have won 5-3!' As it was 0-0 at HT, I told him to shut the fuck up, but it was true.

Finally, in 2012/13, we did the double over Bournemouth in Division One. Stats, eh?
 
grafikhaus said:
Mind the gap...


and, as neither Forest or the pigs will be 'troubling the scorers' whatever their result tonight, we'll be fifth tomorrow:
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Not so - a Forest win by 2 or more goals takes them above us on goals scored or goals difference
 

To be fair, we're 6th, one point off averaging 2 per game, 2 points off being joint first.

Added to this, out of the games played we've had at least 2 results go against us which with better fortune wouldn't have.

There is no reason Boro away shouldn't have given us an additional point without biased/poor officiating and today's team selection options were exceptional to say the least.

Norwich had lost two games 4-0 away and had we had 2 from Sharp, Donaldson and Clarke the outcome would have been very different. I know they were without D'Oliveira but that's not the same as being reduced to playing one currently injured player making his first league start of the season and one midfielder making his debut as your strike partnership.

I would say lady luck is in our debt 8 games in.

So to be 6th is a superb effort.
 
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GreasyChipBeattie said:
We safe then do you reckon G? :D
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Oh we're going to be safe all right. Like most, I started this season with survival as the main priority. Now, not making the play-offs is beginning to feel like failure. Be in no doubt, we'll get the odd battering and might go on a run without a win, but I trust we'll realise how far we've come and not start whining like Wendy and Donny fans are. I'm sure we won't.

Personally, I want us to stay firmly 'in the mix' until the JTW. I think our defence is good/very good, our midfield is exceptional but I have worries that our strike force would struggle with just one injury or suspension. Apart from Donaldson, I don't see where the 'depth' is.
 
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