Brooks...

[wavy-blade]

I don't know where to start with your mindbendingly simplistic logic

That because you know I am right , isn't it , you know it make sense !

 

[alcoblade]

Given that many think we’ve been royally screwed on this deal, I’d be interested in a big list of players that have played so few games and generated such a transfer fee. Should be fairly easy given the apparent giveaway of Brooks.

Anyone care to list them?

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Maths isn’t your best skill is it?

Wilder said we had a good sell on clause. When the time comes we should see some good profit.

10% of any profit. £30m would be £18m profit. 10% of that.....

 

[vorpal blade]

Probably been let go by City taught him loyalty in football is few and far

Brooks didn't even show any loyalty to his country ...... he couldn't wait for Wales to come in and claim him as Welch even though he had captained England already.

The idea of swapping Sheffield United for Bournemouth (the first Premier League team who rang us up) is in the same vein as his vagueness about his own nationality.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Given that many think we’ve been royally screwed on this deal, I’d be interested in a big list of players that have played so few games and generated such a transfer fee. Should be fairly easy given the apparent giveaway of Brooks.

Anyone care to list them?

Lee Morris. Sold too soon for a remarkable £3m at the time – we never got to see how bad his injuries would have been with us had he stayed.

 

[Topplayersleave]

Given that many think we’ve been royally screwed on this deal, I’d be interested in a big list of players that have played so few games and generated such a transfer fee. Should be fairly easy given the apparent giveaway of Brooks.

Anyone care to list them?

We haven't been screwed
But being screwed and selling are two different things and two different discussions

 

[alcoblade]

We haven't been screwed
But being screwed and selling are two different things and two different discussions

There’s plenty on here claiming we’ve been screwed. It’s that point I’m addressing.

 

[alcoblade]

Lee Morris. Sold too soon for a remarkable £3m at the time – we never got to see how bad his injuries would have been with us had he stayed.

Didn’t he go on to almost break into Torquay’s first team?

 

[Tom Bott]

Willing seller - that's the situation summed up in two words!!

Though if someone offered you a 1.2 million signing on fee and 4/5 times your salary you would stay in your present job ?

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Given that many think we’ve been royally screwed on this deal, I’d be interested in a big list of players that have played so few games and generated such a transfer fee. Should be fairly easy given the apparent giveaway of Brooks.

Anyone care to list them?

Hypothetically speaking, DB's value is probably currently £10m upfront with £5m in add ons.

Spurs bought Georges-Kévin Nkoudou, a french winger in 2016 for £11m from Marseille. He was 21 at the time, had 50 top league appearances under his belt and was an u21 international. They also bought Juan Foyth in the summer, a 19yr old Argentinian CB for £8m. He'd only made a handful of appearance in Argentina and a dozen u21 appearances.

Everton bought Nikola Vlašić, a 19 yr old croatian winger for £10m in the summer, but he'd got nearly 100 appearances for Hadjuk Split. They also paid £7.5m upfront plus £3.5m add ons for Lookman in 2017.

Watford paid £8m to Derby for Will Hughes in the summer as well, as vastly more experienced player and only a couple of years older.

Ademola Lookman (English) left Charlton, signed by Everton for £7.5m + £3.5m.

Will Hughes (English) left Derby, signed by Watford for £8m.

Nathan Redmond (English) left Norwich, signed by Southampton for £10m.

Jacob Murphy (English) left Norwich, signed by Newcastle for £12m.

Alex Pritchard (English) left Norwich, signed by Huddersfield for £10m + £2m.

Lewis Cook (English) left Leeds, signed by Bournemouth for £6m + £4m. (Liverpool rumoured to have recently offered £20m)

Jordan Ibe (English) left Liverpool, signed by Bournemouth for £15m.

Nathan Chalobah (English) left Chelsea, signed by Watford for £6m.

Demarai Gray (English) left Birmingham, signed by Leicester for £4m. (Liverpool rumoured to have recently offered £12m)

Obviously add into that list Richarlison who watford signed in 2017 for £11.2m and whom Everton have just paid £35m for. Maddison & Iheanacho who Leicester paid £20m and £25m for. Bissouma who Brighton have just paid £12m - ish for and Torreira who Arsenal have just paid £26.4m for. What we got for Brooks looks like market value to be honest, obviously the reasons why & the need to sell him is a different matter.

 

[Topplayersleave]

There’s plenty on here claiming we’ve been screwed. It’s that point I’m addressing.

Yes some people are.
I've not got a problem with the fee for a young player. I just think we should have kept him for one more year to try for promotion, with the promise that he can leave next summer if we don't go up.

I think he would have improved dramatically this season at Championship level, and with a couple of additions to the squad like weve made in Norwood we could have had a right go at it

If we'd got promoted and Brooks was in the team we wouldn't be losing him to Bournemouth for £12 million, he'd be staying

Once he'd proven himself in the Premier League the only place he's going is Man Utd, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea or abroad for £50 million minimum

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Yes some people are.
I've not got a problem with the fee for a young player. I just think we should have kept him for one more year to try for promotion, with the promise that he can leave next summer if we don't go up.

I think he would have improved dramatically this season at Championship level, and with a couple of additions to the squad like weve made in Norwood we could have had a right go at it

If we'd got promoted and Brooks was in the team we wouldn't be losing him to Bournemouth for £12 million, he'd be staying

Once he'd proven himself in the Premier League the only place he's going is Man Utd, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea or abroad for £50 million minimum

You cheeky minx. It's one thing to have a few good games at Bournemouth, but to suggest that Brooks will soon be going to any of those teams for that sort of money is wumming of the highest order.

 

[Fanny magnet]

That because you know I am right , isn't it , you know it make sense !

It's because I can only assume you are 12 years old and yet to be broken In by the big bad world and I don't want to be the one to do it

 

[8lade]

Once he'd proven himself in the Premier League the only place he's going is Man Utd, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea or abroad for £50 million minimum

Surprised me there by saying what I was going to say; once you are in the Prem (and not getting relegated), those are the only clubs you have to worry about taking your talent and then it's the 40, 50, 60 million quids worth of us still getting ripped off instead of 3, 5 or 12 million!

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I've not got a problem with the fee for a young player. I just think we should have kept him for one more year to try for promotion, with the promise that he can leave next summer if we don't go up.

That’s essentially what we did with Jagielka in 2005 – he was asked to give us one more year to try and get promoted. He was up for that. Brooks clearly wasn’t, and Wilder’s had no hesitation in saying he thinks he’s made the wrong decision. Had he wanted to stay this season, he’d still be here – simple as that.

 

[alcoblade]

Yes some people are.
I've not got a problem with the fee for a young player. I just think we should have kept him for one more year to try for promotion, with the promise that he can leave next summer if we don't go up.

I think he would have improved dramatically this season at Championship level, and with a couple of additions to the squad like weve made in Norwood we could have had a right go at it

If we'd got promoted and Brooks was in the team we wouldn't be losing him to Bournemouth for £12 million, he'd be staying

Once he'd proven himself in the Premier League the only place he's going is Man Utd, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea or abroad for £50 million minimum

Some fair points. However, last season’s team wasn’t ever going to get promoted.

Reinvestment of the revenue from the Brooks sale makes challenging more likely, in my opinion.

 

[alcoblade]

Surprised me there by saying what I was going to say; once you are in the Prem (and not getting relegated), those are the only clubs you have to worry about taking your talent and then it's the 40, 50, 60 million quids worth of us still getting ripped off instead of 3, 5 or 12 million!

Someone press the “get promoted to premier league button” quickly then!

 

[8lade]

Someone press the “get promoted to premier league button” quickly then!

Tell me where it is and I'm on it!

 

[JohnDenver]

Some fair points. However, last season’s team wasn’t ever going to get promoted.

Reinvestment of the revenue from the Brooks sale makes challenging more likely, in my opinion.

It’s a no brainer. I’d have truly loved to see Brooks tear the division up this season, but he wanted to go, we don’t have a pot to piss in, and signings like Norwood justify the decision not to gamble on his attitude, form and fitness.

Awful to miss out on Brooks, but with one decent offer on the table, I’d have done exactly what Wilder did. If we could have bought players like Egan and Norwood without selling Brooks, I’d have thought differently. But we have the board we have.

 

[SteveBlade]

I'm still struggling to understand the outrage.

I could understand if we'd sold a player influential to the team and not replaced them, but that's not the case.

The only way we'd have avoided selling him at some point would have been if he went to shit.

The only scenario I can think of that those slagging the sale off can be thinking would have happened is that he'd have been a certainty to fire us to promotion this season.

Similar to the DCL sale, I can see these threads being bumped every time Brooks scores a goal or has a decent game. 'He's scoring for Bournemouth in the Premier League, fuck off McCabe.'

 

[WoodMillBlade]

If it was as simple as just keeping your best players and backing the club then youd be right and everyone would do it

As for saying all they had to was play football ?
Do you realise how stupid that sounds ?

Bourne.outh had a billionaire Russian oligarch breaking financial fair play rules to get in the prem

Try and have a little degree of balance and reason In your posts

Your right there Fanny Magnet.
Bit crap though that a couple of years ago we supposedly had a billionaire in a joint relationship with the McCabes and quotes of “think Liverpool”and “we won’t need to sell our best players”

 

[WoodMillBlade]

I'm still struggling to understand the outrage.

I could understand if we'd sold a player influential to the team and not replaced them, but that's not the case.

The only way we'd have avoided selling him at some point would have been if he went to shit.

The only scenario I can think of that those slagging the sale off can be thinking would have happened is that he'd have been a certainty to fire us to promotion this season.

Similar to the DCL sale, I can see these threads being bumped every time Brooks scores a goal or has a decent game. 'He's scoring for Bournemouth in the Premier League, fuck off McCabe.'

That’s the difference with footy fans though. Some dream to see the best players playing great footy in the top league.
Others are just happy to watch the footy on a Saturday with their mates.

Nothing wrong with both!

 

[snootyfenooty]

It's not blurb and no one's apologising ,it's a fact
You can choose to ignore it but it is a fact of life

We lose money, the higher the wage bill the more we lose

I didn't say otherwise. I said this and this is the bit you conveniently overlooked:

but it doesn't mean we have to sell every fucking single prospect we have.

 

[SteveBlade]

That’s the difference with footy fans though. Some dream to see the best players playing great footy in the top league.
Others are just happy to watch the footy on a Saturday with their mates.

Nothing wrong with both!

I'd love to see us do that, but I'd have been amazed if David Brooks was the one who'd have got us there.

 

[WoodMillBlade]

I'd love to see us do that, but I'd have been amazed if David Brooks was the one who'd have got us there.

All opinions but watching the highlights and Brooks got in some great attacking positions and created some good chances. I think he would have ripped Championship defences apart which is what we needed. Hopefully Norwood will be a great replacement.

 

[Fanny magnet]

I didn't say otherwise. I said this and this is the bit you conveniently overlooked:

it (market forces and our current position in the food chain) actually does ,everyone worth selling that is

 

[Bladesway]

We will end up receiving £15m for him. Nothing he did for us suggested a fee higher than that.

Fuck me, read nowt from you in ages and I see this and think, bang on!

 

[Bladesway]

I don't know how some of you are going to cope when you realise that Santa doesn't exist or that the tooth fairy is really mummy and daddy

I think some of you must just refuse to u erstand how modern football works and the fact thst Brooks wanted to go and his agent had got him a move to a premier league club means either we keep an unhappy player who's value drops or we sell a player and strengthen a team that badly needed strengthening all the rest is just either focusing on the negatives or the positives and not the facts

Yeah but how you going to go about being a moaning cunt if you think nice thoughts? All in the mind my friend. Some people don’t actually want to be happy so they find stuff to be unhappy about. Usually stuff they can do fuck all about. This means they can perpetually drop into a constant state of unhappiness in which they can never be blamed. Handy.

 

[Agreasychipbutty]

Just watching him batter West Ham on Match of the Day and am confused as to how to feel...

Proud, teary eyed about the player we've lost and angry that at £12m - it looks like we had our leg lifted...

I Look at him similarly to how I see Maguire in the world cup, just nice every time they do something good you think "eez a blade" (to a lesser extent with brooks but still).

And 12 mil was good for selling him now, if we kept him another season his price may have increased massively or if he turned out not so good could have fell. As long as the money is reinvested I'm happy.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Though if someone offered you a 1.2 million signing on fee and 4/5 times your salary you would stay in your present job ?

If my present employer didn't want to let me go, then it's a different proposition...

Grealish wanted to go to Tottenham but I don't see his name in the Spurs team...