CONFIRMED Bogle to Leeds United

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ancientblade said:
dont be stupid we bring a loan signing in weve 5 available you know bogle wanted to go so f**k him the 5/7m will get us worrall and burrows good deal for us bogle would have been no good in a 4231 set up his defending is garbage
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Ancient, I think you have a point tjere if we do indeed play that formation. However I remain unconvinced that Wilder will change from a back 3.
Bogle as right wing back with 3 at the back is a good player
 
Kevincarterversion2.0 said:
I think the up in the air status of the takeover and the need to get players in makes me feel worse about losing Bogle, when the reality his injury record suggests this is sensible business. I liked him though -really good going forward and that’s vital in the championship. Our running down contracts policy is ridiculous though. Poor, poor management.
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Where’s the evidence for this ?

At what juncture should Bogle have been offered ‘new’ terms, or indeed that he hadn’t been ?
 
Blade56 said:
that bad we can pay O’Hare a big signing on fee (alledgedly)
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That bad paying a signing on fee of a couple million means we're selling one of our better players for 5 million.

That's what it seems to me anyway.
 
1987 said:
That bad paying a signing on fee of a couple million means we're selling one of our better players for 5 million.

That's what it seems to me anyway.
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Why keep a player who A, doesn’t want to stay and B, is in his last year?

Makes perfect sense to sell a player who’s going free next season. Add his injury record and it’s a Brucey bonus we’ve got anywhere near 5M imo.
 
FriethBlade said:
Ancient, I think you have a point tjere if we do indeed play that formation. However I remain unconvinced that Wilder will change from a back 3.
Bogle as right wing back with 3 at the back is a good player
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oh yes i agree as a wingback think we would have tried harder to keep bogle but just think wilder will change to 4231/433 this season and i hope we do had enough of 3 centre backs get another body further up the pitch i just think we will bring a premier league loan player in
 
Danetheblade said:
Why keep a player who A, doesn’t want to stay and B, is in his last year?

Makes perfect sense to sell a player who’s going free next season. Add his injury record and it’s a Brucey bonus we’ve got anywhere near 5M imo.
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I see that point of view too.

Few things that influence me:

  • I don't see 5m as significant.
  • I don't necessarily believe not signing a contract = wanting away.
  • We're stronger to compete with him in the team.
  • It will definitely strengthen a rival.

I think though if you're surprised we got near 5m, we have different ratings of Bogle anyway.
 
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Andy67 said:
He wasn’t bought injury prone he was bought as a young lad with promise. Bogle gets injuries because of the nature of his game and football, Phil Jagielka was a very good player and he was hardly injured but not every player is physically capable of those demands at a high level. Leeds haven’t bought an injury prone player they’ve bought a player and a good one at that. The season we went up we were gutted when he got injured but it was like having a quality signing when he
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Andy67 said:
He wasn’t bought injury prone he was bought as a young lad with promise. Bogle gets injuries because of the nature of his game and football, Phil Jagielka was a very good player and he was hardly injured but not every player is physically capable of those demands at a high level. Leeds haven’t bought an injury prone player they’ve bought a player and a good one at that. The season we went up we were gutted when he got injured but it was like having a quality signing when he returned.
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Leeds have bought an injury prone player, he was injured more than half the time he was here 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
Who’s gonna be his fucking replacement then? 😂

Alright saying it’s a good price to sell him for, but who’s replacing him?
 
Barry Butlin said:
Leeds have bought an injury prone player, he was injured more than half the time he was here 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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i’m not disagreeing with you to a great extent. I suppose you have to factor that in however buying any player you take that risk. McGoldrick was always injured and then his record improved. Now if they were to buy Brewster they would have a player, sadly for him, whose hamstrings don’t seem to stand the rigours of the game and at the minute it can be argued RND too. I don’t think that Bogle’s injuries are the same as the aforementioned are but no doubt we’ll see. It is interesting how we see players in terms of pound, shillings and pence you get out of them in terms of game time. I know medicals are stringent but so is the past medical record, what makes a club take a risk on Tom Davies, are they cheaper as clubs know their record in which case you know why we tend to get them.
 
Can't see that this has been confirmed yet, an agreement between the clubs is only the first part.

What if he doesn't want to go?
 

ancientblade said:
dont be stupid we bring a loan signing in weve 5 available you know bogle wanted to go so f**k him the 5/7m will get us worrall and burrows good deal for us bogle would have been no good in a 4231 set up his defending is garbage
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If not get. At the minute the outcome of one being brought in I would bet against.
 
bladesmanluke said:
My god we're actually planning to use Leeds' ex 4th choice centre mid as our right back aren't we whilst selling our best one to them. What a club
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Exactly this. It’s unbelievable but it’s sufc init. Bogle is quality imo to sell him to a direct rival especially them cunts is absolutely ridiculous As usual. 1 step forward 2 back. I’m told a release clause has been triggered for hamer and some body is in for 15/20m. That would top it off if true Can’t write this fucker
 
moody1889 said:
Would Leeds sell their best right back to us for 5m out of contract or not?

Would they heck as like their fans would be going mad!! and with good reason too.

This club never learn we have a great opportunity of getting straight back into the Premier league this season and yet again the powers that be are showing a complete lack of ambition.

And all for what the sake of 5m which is nothing for the championship.

Nothing ever changes with the short sighted fools at the lane.

The day we actually get. a board room with a proper footballing brain is the day we start moving forward and start getting our best players tied down on proper contracts.
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Or does part of this fee get the Burrows deal done?
 
moody1889 said:
Would Leeds sell their best right back to us for 5m out of contract or not?

Would they heck as like their fans would be going mad!! and with good reason too.

This club never learn we have a great opportunity of getting straight back into the Premier league this season and yet again the powers that be are showing a complete lack of ambition.

And all for what the sake of 5m which is nothing for the championship.

Nothing ever changes with the short sighted fools at the lane.

The day we actually get. a board room with a proper footballing brain is the day we start moving forward and start getting our best players tied down on proper contracts.
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Yes, Leeds fans do take bedwetting to new levels, but they also know what sort of team they want to watch, and will raise hell to get it…Whereas we’re just hopeful and largely accepting of our fate.
 
I mean I guess this is a fine cash out, particularly if we are switching to a four where defending as a wide defender is an actual requirement, as opposed to nice to have
 
As mooted by others, and evidently during the two pre season fixtures, Wilder looks like he’s going 4 at the back, I don’t think Bogles strength was ever as a fullback, much better wing back, if we aren’t playing them then…..
 
BladeinExile89 said:
I mean he can he put in quite a few very good defensive perfirmances last year
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He also put in some particularly poor ones, as part of possibly the worst back 5 on Premier League history 🤷.

My take on it is that his positioning in defence is terrible. He drifts inside much too often, opening us up to attacks down the right which may have contributed to Anel looking so out of sorts.
 

HeySethUTB said:
As mooted by others, and evidently during the two pre season fixtures, Wilder looks like he’s going 4 at the back, I don’t think Bogles strength was ever as a fullback, much better wing back, if we aren’t playing them then…..
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with each passing day I think there’s a fair chance wilder won’t be here at start of season or after first month of season. Hes way too distant and quiet for Chris wilder. Something is off with him or it might be just me. Then again I think there’s something not quite right at all at minute. wtf is happening with the takeover lol 😂
 
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