Incoming? Alexander Blessin

[Anston Blade]

As I've said before, everyone's track record starts somewhere and just because they've been heading in the right direction so far there's no guarantee that their journey will continue to follow a good course.

We want the next big thing, not the one looking for a last hurrah.

Past performance is no guarantee of future returns ( I love that phrase, it's so appropriate in so many situations )

Of course there is no guarantee of future success but someone that has proven, recent success would justifiably install greater confidence that he can achieve that success again.

 

[Bladeloyal]

'Alexander Blessin est dans le viseur de Sheffield United pour succéder à Chris Wilder qui vient d'être remercié il y a quelques semaines, selon nos confrères de Het Nieuwsblad. Des pourparlers entre le technicien allemand âgé de 47 ans et le conseil d'administration de Sheffield United ont même déjà eu lieu. Cependant, il n'est pas encore certain que le coach d'Ostende devienne effectivement le nouvel entraîneur de l'équipe de Premier League. Il y a encore d'autres noms sur la liste des Blades'

Plus ici:

Alexander Blessin dans le viseur d'un club de Premier League

Les bonnes performances du technicien allemand au KV Ostende ne sont pas passées inaperçues outre-Manche.

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ALEXANDER BLESSIN IN THE SIGHTS OF A PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB

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ALEXANDER BLESSIN IN THE SIGHTS OF SHEFFIELD UNITED​

The good performance of the German technician at KV Ostend did not go unnoticed across the Channe

I will, of course, support whoever is appointed BUT I would consider this appointment to be a little underwhelming.
Next season we will have one of the strongest squads in the Championship and with the parachute payments we will be an attractive proposition to potential managers. Given that, I would have expected us to be able to attract someone with a better track record.

For me new ideas fresh outlook ,not some tired English Joe .now English football is full of cheats ,falling downers and contactless football we might as well go continental

 

[Maidenhead]

Of course there is no guarantee of future success but someone that has proven, recent success would justifiably install greater confidence that he can achieve that success again.

Perhaps, but there's also a lot of instances of "right place, right time" so unless they've achieved that success more than once and in different places I don't necessarily agree that they would be a better risk than an up and coming coach.

Edit: track records are over rated in football.

Adkins had an excellent track record and look how that went.

As Wilder and many others have said "you're only ever as good as your last result"

I prefer to consider current circumstances and future potential as more important than past history.

 

[true99blade]

Never heard of the bloke but seems like it would be a better fit for us than Jokanovic would.

 

[Yogi]

A player on Blessin's coaching methods:
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That sounds very wilder esq in terms of the intensity he might not be as much of departure in terms of identity as some might think. Plus the attention to detail sounds top level

 

[blade_ben]

That sounds very wilder esq in terms of the intensity he might not be as much of departure in terms of identity as some might think. Plus the attention to detail sounds top level

And the ability to change it up. Not stick stubbornly to a plan that ain’t working!

 

[Pedro Verde]

Of course there is no guarantee of future success but someone that has proven, recent success would justifiably install greater confidence that he can achieve that success again.

ADKINS say no more

 

[Anston Blade]

ADKINS say no more

Doesn't really prove the point though does it. Adkins is just an example of someone with a good track record not working out.
I could counter by saying 'WEIR say no more' but that would be equally irrelevant.

 

[Yogi]

Slightly off topic but relevant to the discussion are English coaches falling behind their continental counterparts? I ask this because we’re starting to see these big interlinked coaching trees spanning the continent where managers have spent time working under notable individuals and then go on to have success as managers in their own rights elsewhere and often end up working here at one time or another and then in turn end up imparting values of that coaching tree onto another generation of future managers. However, English coaches seem few and far between in Europe and are they therefore missing out on these insights as they develop into managers leaving our domestic game poorer for it.

 

[Scarebus]

Slightly off topic but relevant to the discussion are English coaches falling behind their continental counterparts? I ask this because we’re starting to see these big interlinked coaching trees spanning the continent where managers have spent time working under notable individuals and then go on to have success as managers in their own rights elsewhere and often end up working here at one time or another and then in turn end up imparting values of that coaching tree onto another generation of future managers. However, English coaches seem few and far between in Europe and are they therefore missing out on these insights as they develop into managers leaving our domestic game poorer for it.

Of course they are. I was proud to have a successful passionate English manager at the helm . Wilder stood out from the rest up to this season. European coaches seem more relaxed at trying something different.

Even Blessin mentions how the Championship is a tough long ball league in that interview, and how the Belgium league is better for him because it allows him to be more expressive I guess. That's what we're bringing home grown managers up through.

 

[Bladeloyal]

ADKINS say no more

I was having a good Friday until Adkins was mentioned

 

[Scarebus]

I was having a good Friday until I Adkins was mentioned

Adkins is mentioned every day. I think some secretly miss him

 

[bibbity bobbity boo]

Looking at his playing stats, he was a forward who didn't score many goals. Seems the perfect fit for us.

 

[Englebert Wincobank]

I’ll be keeping an eye on Oostendes results from now on. Just three games remaining - two home matches against the bottom two sides and Beerschot away.

 

[Yogi]

Of course they are. I was proud to have a successful passionate English manager at the helm . Wilder stood out from the rest up to this season. European coaches seem more relaxed at trying something different.

Even Blessin mentions how the Championship is a tough long ball league in that interview, and how the Belgium league is better for him because it allows him to be more expressive I guess. That's what we're bringing home grown managers up through.

Yeah I think wilders defining characteristic was that he and his management team were innovative.

it doesn’t bode well for English football especially at lower levels if coaches have only ever experienced one way of doing things.

 

[Scarebus]

I’ll be keeping an eye on Oostendes results from now on. Just three games remaining - two home matches against the bottom two sides and Beerschot away.

Beerschot last away game? Sounds like an ideal scenario to get some talking done.

 

[Pedro Verde]

I will, of course, support whoever is appointed BUT I would consider this appointment to be a little underwhelming.
Next season we will have one of the strongest squads in the Championship and with the parachute payments we will be an attractive proposition to potential managers. Given that, I would have expected us to be able to attract someone with a better track record

Of course there is no guarantee of future success but someone that has proven recent success would justifiably install greater confidence that he can achieve that success again.

Adkins fits the bill on both counts
You could also include Wilson, Clough whilst not success as such they had done very well at previous clubs and to a lesser extent Robson and possibly Adams in that category and dont forget we were in L1 for most of that time with a good budget for that League
Wilder came off so one out of five

Doesn't really prove the point though does it. Adkins is just an example of someone with a good track record not working out

Thats the point there are no guarantees in football even clubs with massive budgets get it wrong a lot of the time appointing managers who have proven track records and recent success

 

[Bladeloyal]

The only thing I can think of is that he may see us as a longer term role, whereas I think Jokanovic is considered a short term expensive option.
Obviously I’ve nothing to support that, just my view from the back.

I’m repeating myself but sacking Wilder brought in a significant level of additional risk. Of course that also brings opportunity, IF you’ve the right skills and are able to identify a better or comparable option.

Wilder sacked himself

 

[Bladeloyal]

I think what's becoming plainly obvious is that prince Abdullah and his advisors have a wide knowledge of world football and sport ,think he knows his onion's .

 

[Blade58]

Sheffield Utd eye Oostende boss Alexander Blessin as Chris Wilder's replacement

SHEFFIELD UNITED have put Oostende boss Alexander Blessin on their list of possible replacements for Chris Wilder. The Premier League basement boys have had Under 23 chief Paul Heckingbottom i…

www.thesun.co.uk

Just read that but saw this at the bottom

"SunSport also exclusively revealed on Wednesday that the Blades are also keeping tabs on Sean Dyche’s situation at Burnley."

Now Dyche I’d be interested in, but I don’t see it

Was always a certainty PA would be looking at overseas coaches

Some lower league overseas coaches are a success. Many aren’t

 

[Anston Blade]

Adkins fits the bill on both counts
You could also include Wilson, Clough whilst not success as such they had done very well at previous clubs and to a lesser extent Robson and possibly Adams in that category and dont forget we were in L1 for most of that time with a good budget for that League
Wilder came off so one out of five



Thats the point there are no guarantees in football even clubs with massive budgets get it wrong a lot of the time appointing managers who have proven track records and recent success

Well whoever they appoint, let's hope it's the right one. This feels like the biggest appointment since Warnock left. We got that decision wrong and it led to us squandering the parachute payments and ultimately 6yrs in league one. We can't afford to make the same mistake.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Wilder sacked himself

Clumsy wording on my part, however from an operational point of view the board are responsible for managing their staff. While I’m of the belief that Wilder effectively walked I hold the board responsible for that happening mid season instead of when they were ready.

 

[Rodley]

I’d have Jokanovic over him every day of the week, but take some assurance from PurpleRain. 8 months of management though is an very small sample size. Blackwell had a decent 8 months when he took over in the Championship.

 

[Rodley]

Every managerial appointment in football is a "complete and utter fucking gamble".

But gambling on the potential of someone with a record of 30 odd games in charge of Oostend, in a league which no disrespect has a completely different tempo, feel and standard, is fairly big one. Certainly a bigger gamble for me than someone who has had success in different leagues across the continent including lots in the league we’re soon to be dropping into.

If we were appointing someone who had 30 games of experience / success in League One or the Scottish leagues, would be equally as excited?

 

[Rodley]

I’ve got to admit my heart sank a bit when I read the OP but he sounds very much like a Pochettino type signing (when he came from Espanol to Southampton). Not hugely experienced but has clearly made an impact in his first job which has made people sit up, take notice and think “we’ve got one here”.

As others have said, rather him than a Pulis/Lennon type appointment.

When people talk about “experience” it’s not just about the numbers, how many years you’ve put in, it’s more about proving you can do the job, make an impact and that you’re not on the way down after a successful career. From what you’ve said, it seems like if we didn’t grab this bloke now, he could be out of our reach in a couple of seasons, if he continues on his current trajectory.

It’s a huge job. A complete rebuild of culture and personnel, with pressure from the off, in a new country. What was his job at Oostend? Does he know how to build a side capable of winning a promotion? All valid questions IMHO.

 

[bladesadviser]

I’d have Jokanovic over him every day of the week, but take some assurance from PurpleRain. 8 months of management though is an very small sample size. Blackwell had a decent 8 months when he took over in the Championship.

Nigel Spackman was excellent for us until board interference, his football was exciting to watch. With respect to Spackman he never had any success elsewhere

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Slightly off topic but relevant to the discussion are English coaches falling behind their continental counterparts? I ask this because we’re starting to see these big interlinked coaching trees spanning the continent where managers have spent time working under notable individuals and then go on to have success as managers in their own rights elsewhere and often end up working here at one time or another and then in turn end up imparting values of that coaching tree onto another generation of future managers. However, English coaches seem few and far between in Europe and are they therefore missing out on these insights as they develop into managers leaving our domestic game poorer for it.

I was just reading a Twitter thread of Stan collymore and Jamie o’haha (who I believe is doing his coaching badges) were both laughing at terms like transition, expected goals, pivot, false nine etc.

I get that they have played the game, but if you turn a blind eye to the latest innovations and the way the game is undeniably currently being played - you’re going to get left behind in the end if you don’t try and understand what’s making teams successful.

not suggesting English coaches can’t adapt - wilder did with a system that took us to the PL. the best ones combine a tactically flexible approach with the more fundamentals of effort and desire etc that’s more typically ‘british’.

 

[Yogi]

I was just reading a Twitter thread of Stan collymore and Jamie o’haha (who I believe is doing his coaching badges) were both laughing at terms like transition, expected goals, pivot, false nine etc.

I get that they have played the game, but if you turn a blind eye to the latest innovations and the way the game is undeniably currently being played - you’re going to get left behind in the end if you don’t try and understand what’s making teams successful.

not suggesting English coaches can’t adapt - wilder did with a system that took us to the PL. the best ones combine a tactically flexible approach with the more fundamentals of effort and desire etc that’s more typically ‘british’.

That’s the thing you can remain distinct whilst absorbing what makes others successful Spain is football looks very distinct from German football for example.

The ex pro thing annoys me at times just because you’ve been taught something doesn’t mean you can automatically be a teacher you might know what you’re talking about but that doesn’t mean you know how to communicate it to others.

 

[Rodley]

I was just reading a Twitter thread of Stan collymore and Jamie o’haha (who I believe is doing his coaching badges) were both laughing at terms like transition, expected goals, pivot, false nine etc.

I get that they have played the game, but if you turn a blind eye to the latest innovations and the way the game is undeniably currently being played - you’re going to get left behind in the end if you don’t try and understand what’s making teams successful.

not suggesting English coaches can’t adapt - wilder did with a system that took us to the PL. the best ones combine a tactically flexible approach with the more fundamentals of effort and desire etc that’s more typically ‘british’.

People will shit a brick when they realise Lunny is one of our best players in transition

 

[PurpleRain]

But gambling on the potential of someone with a record of 30 odd games in charge of Oostend, in a league which no disrespect has a completely different tempo, feel and standard, is fairly big one. Certainly a bigger gamble for me than someone who has had success in different leagues across the continent including lots in the league we’re soon to be dropping into.

If we were appointing someone who had 30 games of experience / success in League One or the Scottish leagues, would be equally as excited?

Also all due respect but don’t think there is much difference between the tempo in the championship and the Belgian pro league.