If not wilder, who else????

[Northyorksblade]

I’m going to be open. I’m a big Wilder fan, I’d never suggest he was the best football manager ever but I know that whilst ever he’s in charge we have a man making decisions with the future of the club in mind. I also know that any team he puts out will give everything, I would happily see him stay for the next 10 years.

I know there’s plenty who would like to see him go, I’m intrigued who those who would see him gone would want to see replace him. Who realistically could do a better job for us?

I can't see how you can defend Wilder? The "football" his team play is pretty poor most of the time and has been even when we've had a good season per results.
The squad he has at his disposal right now, on paper, is as good, if not better than most in this division.
Anybody out there,with half decent managerial experience would get them playing better stuff.
We need a change, sooner than later, to give a new manager a chance to turn the season around.

 

[Bell4]

I’m going to be open. I’m a big Wilder fan, I’d never suggest he was the best football manager ever but I know that whilst ever he’s in charge we have a man making decisions with the future of the club in mind. I also know that any team he puts out will give everything, I would happily see him stay for the next 10 years.

I know there’s plenty who would like to see him go, I’m intrigued who those who would see him gone would want to see replace him. Who realistically could do a better job for us?

I too held this view

I don’t now

The squad he has assembled, and taking into consideration the shit show around him in fairness, is bloated with has beens who offer next to nothing when compared to the vast majority of opponents in the league we are in . Most teams have athletic, attack minded players - who seem organised and can last the distance - we , on the whole , have nothing like this .

As I have said on other threads , CW has boxed us into a corner through his choices - we are turgid , slow , unorganised and largely incapable beyond a deep block .

As for the players giving their all ? Perhaps they are - but that then amplifies even more the damage done .

It’s a sorry state of self designed neglect from all parties .

CW is nothing like the future and his here and now is desperate and heading rapidly towards a sad and bitter ending

 

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I too held this view

I don’t now

The squad he has assembled, and taking into consideration the shit show around him in fairness, is bloated with has beens who offer next to nothing when compared to the vast majority of opponents in the league we are in . Most teams have athletic, attack minded players - who seem organised and can last the distance - we , on the whole , have nothing like this .

As I have said on other threads , CW has boxed us into a corner through his choices - we are turgid , slow , unorganised and largely incapable beyond a deep block .

As for the players giving their all ? Perhaps they are - but that then amplifies even more the damage done .

It’s a sorry state of self designed neglect from all parties .

CW is nothing like the future and his here and now is desperate and heading rapidly towards a sad and bitter ending

It's another season, like the last one where we'll be looking over our shoulder most weeks needing to stay up. January will be vital. Then whatever division we find ourselves in, a reset has to come if the owners are serious. I want Wilder to recapture his mojo, those 4 years we had filled me with immense pride and that my club had the potential to be an established premier league side. Sadly unless he takes himself off to a cave in the peak district and has an epiphany which sparks a turnaround in his thinking, I can't see him changing.

 

[The Fox]

Id normally be a bit narked at a 3 week international break but in this case it couldn't have come at a better time.

The coaching staff have a good opportunity to reassess the performances, formation , players etc .

It puts us in no excuse territory for the coming games

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Really interesting interview with Billy Sharp going around where he comments the old Chris Wilder didn’t care about the opposition, only what we did. There’s was a bit of opposition work on a Friday but no more than that.

He commented that this version of Sheffield United seems to be changing their formation to try and overcome other teams strengths rather than focussing on our own.

I thought he hit the nail on the head and spoke about the situation really well.

 

[bertieblade]

Billy has obviously been told there is no place for him at bdtbl at the moment and subsequently it is of no detriment if he voices his opinions.
Speaks volumes that he is saying exactly what supporters are expressing

 

[54yrblade]

Whatever happened that lead to Chris leaving the first time has had a far bigger effect on him than 'simply' losing his job.

It changed who he is, his approach to the game and, frankly, he's lost the bottle he had in the glorious 2016 - 21 years, and no surprise too. He had years of being the Blades kingpin in the city, feted wherever he went and sharing the top tables with the best managers in the country. Of course his ego was massive, anyone's would be, but the fall from that must be difficult to still be navigating.

We now have a situation where he plays it safe with those he brings in, where his 'culture' needs his 'type' around him to justify it, even when we can all see that it simply isn't working. His coaching from the technical area is failing, the players don't have the capacity or capability to act independently and it's just not working any more.

He lost his mojo in 2021. It isn't coming back in an international break or with yet another desperate JTW.

Whilst ever grateful for those mad, ridiculous years, we can't keep hoping beyond hope that his magic suddenly returns. It's not realistic, evidenced nor is it fair on him and those close to him to continue to carry the weight of that hope.

Desperation for him to succeed is not sensible or a strategy going forward. He had his time, he has a legacy from that first tenure. I'd rather remember that than a drawn out goodbye that gets more difficult to watch over time.

 

[Northyorksblade]

I can't see how you can defend Wilder? The "football" his team play is pretty poor most of the time and has been even when we've had a good season per results.
The squad he has at his disposal right now, on paper, is as good, if not better than most in this division.
Anybody out there,with half decent managerial experience would get them playing better stuff.
We need a change, sooner than later, to give a new manager a chance to turn the season around.

Regardless of what I think about Wilder, I wish Mrs Norks would stop posting under my name!

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

How about Joey Barton, he's not up to much and seems quite passionate.

 

[ChefYouKnighted1889]

Be careful what you wish for, if we sack Wilder or he walks away, with these owners we could be in League 2 before we know it. l say let's just ride out this season and see what happens at the end of May. We could well have new owners by then. we all seem to disagree who to bring in next, so there is trouble from the start. so, us fans will be split whoever comes in. but eventually someone new will come in and we will either come good again or be even worse. but right now, I just think we all need to stick together and back what we have. just my thoughts.

With this manager we'll be in league 2 unall

 

[ChefYouKnighted1889]

Id normally be a bit narked at a 3 week international break but in this case it couldn't have come at a better time.

The coaching staff have a good opportunity to reassess the performances, formation , players etc .

It puts us in no excuse territory for the coming games

3 weeks to change or figure out what's not working erm didn't we have all pre season for that,no excuses territory was the day before brum at home imo

 

[john Mathison]

My greatest fear is that we won't improve enough, and will be embroiled in a relegation dogfight.

 

[ChefYouKnighted1889]

Christine Widler obviously

 

[Rodley]

3 weeks to change or figure out what's not working erm didn't we have all pre season for that,no excuses territory was the day before brum at home imo

TBF to him we lost most of our creative players quite late in the window. We’re currently 4pts off the playoffs and 4pts off relegation in a season where the expectation will be to tread water until the ownership mess is all resolved.

 

[ChefYouKnighted1889]

TBF to him we lost most of our creative players quite late in the window. We’re currently 4pts off the playoffs and 4pts off relegation in a season where the expectation will be to tread water until the ownership mess is all resolved.

we had all pre season mate we knew the situation,we had to sell players wilder even said its gonna nd different this season,he was reyt it is different we are more wank than we were last season.

 

[The Fox]

3 weeks to change or figure out what's not working erm didn't we have all pre season for that,no excuses territory was the day before brum at home imo

In fairness I dont think we learned alot preseason , after that the last minute deadline day stuff and picking up injuries will be used , correctly or not as some mitigation .

The break , players returning and recent game analysis puts us in a position to rectify whats wrong .

Thats what I meant by no excuse.

They can either get a performance of them or not without any hiding place .

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I’m going to be open. I’m a big Wilder fan, I’d never suggest he was the best football manager ever but I know that whilst ever he’s in charge we have a man making decisions with the future of the club in mind. I also know that any team he puts out will give everything, I would happily see him stay for the next 10 years.

I know there’s plenty who would like to see him go, I’m intrigued who those who would see him gone would want to see replace him. Who realistically could do a better job for us?

Future of our club in mind?

There is no forward thinking at all.

Recruitment? We don't sign players for the future.
Culture/Ethos? Stuck 20 years ago
Tactics? No consistency or innovation
Club structure? About as modern as VHS

So what about the future is he covering? Serious question, open to anyone.

 

[Sean Thornton]

TBF to him we lost most of our creative players quite late in the window. We’re currently 4pts off the playoffs and 4pts off relegation in a season where the expectation will be to tread water until the ownership mess is all resolved.

But surely you have to ask if those players wanted out or were willing to listen to offers and if so when Wilder was made aware rather than assume, for example, it was all sprung on him? For instance l’d be very surprised if Snek would not inform him what was happening.

And before the fan boys pile in and call me a hater, the obvious follow up to that, for the non hysterical anyway, would be what options, if any, he was given for replacements. Probably a more important point actually seeing as player sales were expected due to budget requirements.

Like the Souttar bollocks though, we’ll be told nothing other than agenda driven bullshit from a) those who don’t know or b) the very few who do but would be embarrassed by the truth coming out.

Shambles from top to bottom.

 

[Rodley]

But surely you have to ask if those players wanted out or were willing to listen to offers and if so when Wilder was made aware rather than assume, for example, it was all sprung on him? For instance l’d be very surprised if Snek would not inform him what was happening.

And before the fan boys pile in and call me a hater, the obvious follow up to that, for the non hysterical anyway, would be what options, if any, he was given for replacements. Probably a more important point actually seeing as player sales were expected due to budget requirements.

Like the Souttar bollocks though, we’ll be told nothing other than agenda driven bullshit from a) those who don’t know and b) the very few who do but would be embarrassed by the truth coming out.

Shambles from top to bottom.

I don’t disagree with most of that, but I don’t think the current ownership will bat an eyelid unless we’ve dropped into the bottom three and look adrift. Basically in a holding position I imagine until all the ownership matters are resolved.