Incoming? Kalvin Phillips

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KMC-1889 said:
What good is showing it in training if he's never on the pitch?

For all the derision Soumare get's he contributed 100 times more than Phillips did last season and if we're bringing anyone back I'd take Soumare over Phillips any day of the week.
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I liked Soumare … he made some typical young player mistakes but he showed enough to suggest he can become a really good box to box midfielder combining good physical attributes with some silky touches at times.
The price seemed to be a bit too steep but he has definite potential.
 



Champagneblade said:
Funny thing is, he’s gone onto great things yet when we were in the Premier League we were quite positively comparing Fleck to him that first season and the promotion one and we were right at the time.

Sadly one has been hampered by injuries whilst the other has really kicked on.
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Well remembered, the comparison between Fleck and McGinn was a talking point (at least on here).
The thing is it was a genuine comparison as Fleck was coming into his peak, and it was a standard that
underlined Flecks importance (alongside Coutts and Duffy) to where we were and where we hoped to be.
There's no doubt that Fleck was exceptional, such a pity that injury prevented him from fulfilling his promise.
 
MartBlade said:
I liked Soumare … he made some typical young player mistakes but he showed enough to suggest he can become a really good box to box midfielder combining good physical attributes with some silky touches at times.
The price seemed to be a bit too steep but he has definite potential.
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Agree. But the price tag to make it permanent had to be so much cheaper. He was so raw, if he was a steak he would still be moooing.

I liked him, but as soon as it was obvious that we had blown the season up, he was never going to sign under the existing deal for that £7m permanent fee and he was gone. Even when CW put him in, he would look pretty decent and then look honking (as a lot of young players do). Problem was he wasnt then a long term investment or player we needed to develop as he wasnt going to be ours come May. He will be a better player for this experience, and i can see him being a decent xhampionship level player in the future. If we still had those parachute pymts then he might have been worth a cheeky £3m take it or leave it bid, but we have other fish to fry now with what money we so have. A shame but is life.
 
Champagneblade said:
Funny thing is, he’s gone onto great things yet when we were in the Premier League we were quite positively comparing Fleck to him that first season and the promotion one and we were right at the time.

Sadly one has been hampered by injuries whilst the other has really kicked on.
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Sadly one is and acts like a professional footballer whilst the other one liked to get pissed every weekend.
 
LBA_Blade said:
So the usually clown logic from Danny Hall and if this happens Wilder and the board are worse.... We have shifted out a £25k a week midfielder in Jairo and we are looking to replace him with someone that is on £150k a week at his parent club. For that to work City will have to be paying at least £125K a week and then that would us be breaking even as a like for like swap of Riedewald to Phillips so in theory with us still not under the ratio we would need City to be paying more of the wages if no other transfer sales. You have to start thinking even though City have literally cash to burn where is the incentive to send a player out to another club in the last year of the contract and pay more than 3/4s of his wage. Hall then mentions "United now only have Sydie Peck, Oliver Arblaster and Joe Rothwell as their under-contract midfielders for next season" depending on the formation we are looking for (not forgetting Billy Blacker might be involved in preseason too to add to that list) if we kept hold of those 3 plus adding the likes of Blacker into the mix do we actually need Phillips, if the answer is we need more depth, we could look at adding a loan in there but a younger player such as Toby Collyer (not saying has to be him) but if you reduce the wage bill by getting rid of Jairo you can only refill so much of that, players of that mold attract salaries of £5-10k a week which is achievable. Not £20k+
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Why would Man City be paying Phillips £150k? Doesn't sound logical. Tripled/Quadrupled (guesswork) his Leeds wage... in case he turned them down?!

More likely he's on 60-70k. We were told Man City were covering a lot of his salary.

Anyway, seems a crazy signing unless we're somehow extremely confident he's fully fit next season.
 
IdLiketoRogerMoore said:
He hasn't become a bad player - you're right. What he's become is a £multi-millionaire who never has to work a day more in his life...

Bit like golfers who win a major and you never hear from again. He's climbed the mountain and is now sat on the top of it drinking cognac and lighting Cuban cigars with £20 notes....

He's so not the profile Wilder MkI built his reputation on. He picked up players with a point to prove. Philips has proved his point and has nothing left to prove...
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I've been saying this (in different words) for years.
We need players on their UPWARD - not downward - trajectory.
Kills 2 birds with one stone.
1.They are hungry and want to do well
2.We might even make a profit - if they improve whilst with us - when we sell.
 
T-Blade said:
Like I said he seems to have his heart set on coming back so defo wouldn’t rule a permanent deal. We’ve obviously made some kind of impression on him in his short time. Obviously great if he stays fit but that’s the problem.
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What a complete waste of time and money. He’s shown absolutely nothing for us to even contemplate bringing him back.
 
Danetheblade said:
What a complete waste of time and money. He’s shown absolutely nothing for us to even contemplate bringing him back.
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Other than playing for one of the best teams in the world, representing England and having a massive transfer fee when moving clubs.

A little bit like
"What did the Romans ever do for us"

I agree it's a bit of a gamble but have you ever considered the upside if it comes off.
 



Striker said:
Other than playing for one of the best teams in the world, representing England and having a massive transfer fee when moving clubs.

A little bit like
"What did the Romans ever do for us"

I agree it's a bit of a gamble but have you ever considered the upside if it comes off.
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Ahh right, so he’s done things in the past that somehow benefit us? Lol.

Where’s the upside? I’m more focused on the downside (what we’ve literally seen already)
 
Striker said:
Other than playing for one of the best teams in the world, representing England and having a massive transfer fee when moving clubs.

A little bit like
"What did the Romans ever do for us"

I agree it's a bit of a gamble but have you ever considered the upside if it comes off.
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And at 30 year old, he's got another good 4 or 5 years left in him 👍
 
brownblade said:
Really unnecessary.
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Is it really? I am sorry you feel so strongly about my trite comment.
It wasattempt to express frustration through 'humour'
Its an anonymous message board, although CM maybe your virtual friend?
People use the anonymity to peddle tripe, when a person in my real life starts to guess players wages, transfer fees etc my response is the same.
 
Silent Blade said:
We cannot sign anyone until 15th June.

Who has said we are going to sign Phillips?

I liked Jairo but he hasnt played one game for 90 minutes for us so signing him would be a big risk as we no longer have parachute payments.

How is the SCR going to affect us?

We dont know our transfer budget for the summer.
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These rumours often start from somewhere, an agent trying to drum up business, someone within the club, etc. That’s why it’s the rumours thread mate.

I was fully on board with his signing when he first came. I really hoped that he had enough in the locker to do something with us. He did not.

Unfit and done I’m afraid.

He’ll turn up in the “baller league” giving it the big un
 
brownblade said:
Why would Man City be paying Phillips £150k? Doesn't sound logical. Tripled/Quadrupled (guesswork) his Leeds wage... in case he turned them down?!

More likely he's on 60-70k. We were told Man City were covering a lot of his salary.

Anyway, seems a crazy signing unless we're somehow extremely confident he's fully fit next season.
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Can only ask City that question but multiple sources online 3 shown below advise base salary is £150,000. For an at the time a promising England prospect although a 6 year contract was risky it was something they were up to doing

https://www.tntsports.co.uk/footbal...exit-looms-paper-round_sto9847947/story.shtml

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/38859957/england-kalvin-phillips-image-rights-championship/

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/h...ning-kalvin-phillips-was-earning-at-man-city/
 
LBA_Blade said:
Can only ask City that question but multiple sources online 3 shown below advise base salary is £150,000. For an at the time a promising England prospect although a 6 year contract was risky it was something they were up to doing

https://www.tntsports.co.uk/footbal...exit-looms-paper-round_sto9847947/story.shtml

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/38859957/england-kalvin-phillips-image-rights-championship/

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/h...ning-kalvin-phillips-was-earning-at-man-city/
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They're all quoting The Sun's source. Which lets face it, was probably a dart board they use to make up stories.

Makes absolutely no sense for Man City to offer Phillips such an insane amount of money when they bought him, or for them to have given him any pay rises. Pure logic - maybe they're so rich, with financial cheating so deep, they really don't care about pissing millions and millions away.
 
brownblade said:
Why would Man City be paying Phillips £150k? Doesn't sound logical. Tripled/Quadrupled (guesswork) his Leeds wage... in case he turned them down?!

More likely he's on 60-70k. We were told Man City were covering a lot of his salary.
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They will be paying him that much because they have infinite resources and that is the going rate for players who were in Phillips' position at the time
 
jt64 said:
They will be paying him that much because they have infinite resources and that is the going rate for players who were in Phillips' position at the time
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They still have had to comply to FFP (lol), so why pay anyone double or triple what's necessary? Phillips was hardly in a position to play hardball.

Anyway. 🤷🏻
 
brownblade said:
They still have had to comply to FFP (lol), so why pay anyone double or triple what's necessary?
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If you think Phillips is only worth 50-60k a week you have no fucking clue what sorts of salaries top level players are on. Look at what the unwashed were paying Bannan for the love of god

Edit - Chelsea were paying Winston Bogarde 40 grand a week to train with the reserves a quarter of a century ago. If you seriously think that someone with 30 England caps in the prime of their career should not be on six figures a week, either you think that the entire football universe is overpaid by orders of magnitude, or you are on substances I need to get a hold of
 



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