Statistics Card watch - play nice or you're suspended son

[HarryHaslam]

I’ve a feeling Hamer was always going to get a yellow tonight.

 

[bakeblade]

I’ve a feeling Hamer was always going to get a yellow tonight.

We could have just done with him avoiding one for just 1 more game, but thanks to RND not to be

 

[HarryHaslam]

We could have just done with him avoiding one for just 1 more game, but thanks to RND not to be

Yeah you’re right after checking fixtures. I’d have been happy he got it tonight or the next game. We should manage next two without him fingers crossed.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

I’ve a feeling Hamer was always going to get a yellow tonight.

@Rifleman levels of ITK there!

 

[HarryHaslam]

@Rifleman levels of ITK there!

Took me a sec to realise what you meant, I said it after the fact

Tbf we really needed his ban out of the way before the Boro game so I think he was always going to take a yellow last night or the next game.

 

[Cappy]

Updated following our Game 28 - Swansea City (A)

As you all know, Gus Hamer now has 10 yellows, so will miss the next 2 league games, those being v Hull (H) and Derby (A). He will be eligible to play next against Portsmouth (H)

Note, I will change the below copied table into a manual format, like the 'rumoured incoming players' table, but in a nicer format, as I've noticed in previous JTWs that players moving between clubs aren't updated properly (either their card count is wrong because they've moved leagues, or they're still down as being with their parent/previous club), so I will do it manually. Haven't got time today as just back from Swansea and got other stuff to do, so will do it after Friday's game v Hull

Players:


Source

• Up to and including 37 games
  • Players who receive 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive 3 yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive 8 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Rumoured Incoming Players:

Below not updated. Will do so this weekend. Left it just as an FYI, correct as of Monday gone

Remember that, as per page 5 of this FA document, only cards received in the EFL Leagues count towards EFL League suspensions. Therefore any cards a player has received in the EPL, overseas leagues, or in a cup do not count towards a suspension playing in the League for Sheff Utd.

If I've missed anyone, let me know. I don't always have my finger on the pulse of rumours, valid or otherwise

 

[Cappy]

Last night was a great example of how important Wilder is to us during the game (half time in particular) and a suspension for him would not be good. I wonder if he takes a tactical yellow at some point, or whether he knows he can keep it clean for the rest of the season

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

Hamer will be good and rested for the Leeds game, good yellow....maybe

 

[McGrath]

Updated following our Game 28 - Swansea City (A)

As you all know, Gus Hamer now has 10 yellows, so will miss the next 2 league games, those being v Hull (H) and Derby (A). He will be eligible to play next against Portsmouth (H)

Note, I will change the below copied table into a manual format, like the 'rumoured incoming players' table, but in a nicer format, as I've noticed in previous JTWs that players moving between clubs aren't updated properly (either their card count is wrong because they've moved leagues, or they're still down as being with their parent/previous club), so I will do it manually. Haven't got time today as just back from Swansea and got other stuff to do, so will do it after Friday's game v Hull

Players:
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Source

• Up to and including 37 games
  • Players who receive 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive 3 yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive 8 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Rumoured Incoming Players:

Below not updated. Will do so this weekend. Left it just as an FYI, correct as of Monday gone

Remember that, as per page 5 of this FA document, only cards received in the EFL Leagues count towards EFL League suspensions. Therefore any cards a player has received in the EPL, overseas leagues, or in a cup do not count towards a suspension playing in the League for Sheff Utd.

If I've missed anyone, let me know. I don't always have my finger on the pulse of rumours, valid or otherwise

Is Peck one booking away from a suspension?

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Updated following our Game 28 - Swansea City (A)

As you all know, Gus Hamer now has 10 yellows, so will miss the next 2 league games, those being v Hull (H) and Derby (A). He will be eligible to play next against Portsmouth (H)

Note, I will change the below copied table into a manual format, like the 'rumoured incoming players' table, but in a nicer format, as I've noticed in previous JTWs that players moving between clubs aren't updated properly (either their card count is wrong because they've moved leagues, or they're still down as being with their parent/previous club), so I will do it manually. Haven't got time today as just back from Swansea and got other stuff to do, so will do it after Friday's game v Hull

Players:
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Source

• Up to and including 37 games
  • Players who receive 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive 3 yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive 8 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Rumoured Incoming Players:

Below not updated. Will do so this weekend. Left it just as an FYI, correct as of Monday gone

Remember that, as per page 5 of this FA document, only cards received in the EFL Leagues count towards EFL League suspensions. Therefore any cards a player has received in the EPL, overseas leagues, or in a cup do not count towards a suspension playing in the League for Sheff Utd.

If I've missed anyone, let me know. I don't always have my finger on the pulse of rumours, valid or otherwise

Anel, Souza and Hamer dirty fuckers love a yellow

 

[Cappy]

Is Peck one booking away from a suspension?

No. He needs 10 mate. The time has past when 5 yellows got you one game ban. That only lasts up to game 19. So now, the rules state...

• Up to and including 37 games
  • Players who receive 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

 

[McGrath]

No. He needs 10 mate. The time has passed when 5 yellows got you one game ban. That only lasts up to game 19. So now, the rules state...

• Up to and including 37 games
  • Players who receive 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Thank god for that. Imagine if he got his 6th yellow in Friday and we'd have no central midfielders for Derby away

 

[Agreasychipbutty]

Last night was a great example of how important Wilder is to us during the game (half time in particular) and a suspension for him would not be good. I wonder if he takes a tactical yellow at some point, or whether he knows he can keep it clean for the rest of the season

What's the extent of a manager suspension? I had always assumed it just meant they aren't allowed in the technical area and have to be in the stands during the game instead, but otherwise could go about their normal duties. Does it also stop them being in the changing room at half time/before the game?

 

[Cappy]

What's the extent of a manager suspension? I had always assumed it just meant they aren't allowed in the technical area and have to be in the stands during the game instead, but otherwise could go about their normal duties. Does it also stop them being in the changing room at half time/before the game?

Good question, and turns out I was wrong. Perhaps it's not such a big deal when you have such a competent #2 like AK?

"The manager cannot position themselves in or behind the area of the dugout, or any barrier adjacent to the touchline or goal line.

This is done to prevent them from communicating directly with the players during the match. However, the manager can give a pre-match team talk, they can be in the dressing room at half-time, and they can pass on information for their assistants to relay during the game"

 

[GlosBlade]

The worry is there a lot of games left for him to pick up another 5 yellows, a three game ban for him at the business end of the season would be very bad, especially if we end up in the play offs. Some are hard to avoid, and refs can make some strange decisions about what deserves a card but he’s got to cut out any silly ones.

 

[HarryHaslam]

The worry is there a lot of games left for him to pick up another 5 yellows, a three game ban for him at the business end of the season would be very bad, especially if we end up in the play offs. Some are hard to avoid, and refs can make some strange decisions about what deserves a card but he’s got to cut out any silly ones.

Thought that myself when reading Cappys post, I didn’t realise another 5 and it’s a 3 game ban. He really needs to rein it in because he does give a lot of silly fouls away just things like tugging a player back, some of his yellows aren’t yellows imo but a culmination of 3 or 4 needless fouls gives the ref no option but to pull the card out for something that wouldn’t normally get a card.

 

[BarcaBlade]

Just a message of thanks, Cappy. Great service for stat-nerds like myself.

 

[YES Blade]

Thought that myself when reading Cappys post, I didn’t realise another 5 and it’s a 3 game ban. He really needs to rein it in because he does give a lot of silly fouls away just things like tugging a player back, some of his yellows aren’t yellows imo but a culmination of 3 or 4 needless fouls gives the ref no option but to pull the card out for something that wouldn’t normally get a card.

With us signing a few new players and hopefully some more coming back from injury, Hamer can be rested a few games or at least taken off after 70/80 minutes.

Hopefully that will help him avoid picking another 5 yellows.

 

[Cappy]

Updated following our Game 28 - Swansea City (A)

Updated into new format so I can update manually, given we are having squad additions and subtractions, which online sources are terrible at updating accurately and representing correct card status, as cards don't always count if acquired in different leagues. I have also removed any players we know are out for the season. Sadly, the manual method means we lose cards per 90 played, but I may add this in coming days. Definitely let me know if you really want that

As you all know, Gus Hamer now has 10 yellows, so will miss the next 2 league games, those being v Hull (H) and Derby (A). He will be eligible to play next against Portsmouth (H)

Players:

• Up to and including 37 games
  • Players who receive 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games
  • If a player receives 15 yellow cards in the 46-game regular season, they will be suspended for 3 games
  • If a player receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who receive 3 yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who receive 8 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • If a manager receives 20 yellow cards by the end of the season, a regulatory commission will determine their punishment

Rumoured Incoming Players:

Remember that, as per page 5 of this FA document, only cards received in the EFL Leagues count towards EFL League suspensions. Therefore any cards a player has received in the EPL, overseas leagues, or in a cup do not count towards a suspension playing in the League for Sheff Utd.



If I've missed anyone, let me know. I don't always have my finger on the pulse of rumours, valid or otherwise

 

[Cappy]

Shea Charles definitely a gamble loanee, with him being 2 yellows from a 2-game ban

 

[petcharlie]

With us signing a few new players and hopefully some more coming back from injury, Hamer can be rested a few games or at least taken off after 70/80 minutes.

Hopefully that will help him avoid picking another 5 yellows.

What I find is annoying is a lot of those yellows were preventable . Bad discipline rather than ill timed tackles or the likes .

 

[Long Time Lurker]

Great work Cappy. Thanks.

 

[Cappy]

No cards for us last night, so it's as you were. I will wait for the weekend to play out, then update the tables and post fully, as some of our transfer targets may get carded

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Game 29 - Hull City (H)

Table updated into new format so I can update manually, given we are having squad additions and subtractions, which online sources are terrible at updating accurately and representing correct card status, as cards don't always count if acquired in different leagues. I have also removed any players we know are out for the season. Sadly, the manual method means we lose the stat on cards per 90 played, but I may add this if anyone really wants it.

Gus Hamer has 1 more game to serve of his 2-game suspension, that being Derby (A). He will be eligible to play next against Portsmouth (H)

No cards received in the game v Hull, so it's as you were for our players

Players:

• Up to and including 37 games played by SUFC
  • Players who have received 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games played by SUFC
  • Players who have received 15 yellow cards will be suspended for 3 games
• By the end of the season
  • Players who have received 20 yellow cards will have a regulatory commission determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who have received 3 yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who have received 8 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • Managers who have received 20 yellow cards will have a regulatory commission determine their punishment

Rumoured Incoming Players:

I've trimmed the list of rumoured players down, now we've signed a couple of positions, plus a few others have gone very cold. If I've missed a legit rumoured target, let me know

The only player not updated from this weekend's games is Choudhary, as Leicester play tomorrow, but given he's having a medical with us today, I've assumed he won't play.


Remember that, as per page 5 of this FA document, only cards received in the EFL Leagues count towards EFL League suspensions. Therefore any cards a player has received in the EPL, overseas leagues, or in a cup do not count towards a suspension playing in the league for Sheff Utd.

 

[Cappy]

Adding Harry Darling, given the recent rumour.

Nothing to worry about really, yellow card wise

However, he got a red against us last week, which got him a three game ban. He has served one game, so if he joined us, he would next be eligible to play v Middlesbrough

 

[westterraceblade]

If Shea Charles is on 8 bookings he is in real danger of missing the game against us. Does he take a tactical suspension or does he risk missing the derby game?

 

[Cappy]

I’ve seen a couple of posts in other threads, pondering whether suspensions would carry over into the playoffs, should we reach them.

My interpretation of the wording from the FA is that yes, they do carry over, so as Beans has said on the BladesPod thread, Gus can only get 4 more yellows in the 17 games he will be eligible to play in the regular season, following his current suspension, or he will get a 3 game ban, which may mean he misses playoff games. This season, and indeed his entire career, says him maintaining that discipline is really unlikely, sadly

By the way, if you want to take steps towards joining the dull nerd club, you can, like me, download the FA essential information app. Yes, there’s an app and it makes me happy inside.

Covers stuff like the above, as well as what happens if you celebrate a goal and go into the crowd, have a slogan or other message on your under-shirt and display it after a goal, what happens if you surround officials or the opposition (which we are elite at), etc etc

Really good app if you like that stuff

The app can be downloaded from both the Apple and Google Play stores at the links below:

FA Player Essentials - ITunes version

FA Player Essentials - Android version


On another note, Harry Clarke has a few yellows this season, but none would carry over to us, so he would start for us on zero

UTB

 

[Cappy]

Updated following Game 30 - Derby County (A)

Gus Hamer has now completed his 2-game suspension and will be eligible to play against Portsmouth (H)


Players:

• Up to and including 37 games played by SUFC
  • Players who have received 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games played by SUFC
  • Players who have received 15 yellow cards will be suspended for 3 games
• By the end of the season
  • Players who have received 20 yellow cards will have a regulatory commission determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who have received 3 yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who have received 8 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • Managers who have received 20 yellow cards will have a regulatory commission determine their punishment

Rumoured Incoming Players:

Reminder that Harry Darling got a red against us, which got him a three game ban. He has served two games, so if he joined us, he would next be eligible to play v Middlesbrough (H)


Remember that, as per page 5 of this FA document, only cards received in the EFL Leagues count towards EFL League suspensions. Therefore any cards a player has received in the EPL, overseas leagues, or in a cup do not count towards a suspension playing in the league for Sheff Utd.

 

[blade67]

Updated following Game 30 - Derby County (A)

Gus Hamer has now completed his 2-game suspension and will be eligible to play against Portsmouth (H)


Players:
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• Up to and including 37 games played by SUFC
  • Players who have received 10 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
• Up to and including 46 games played by SUFC
  • Players who have received 15 yellow cards will be suspended for 3 games
• By the end of the season
  • Players who have received 20 yellow cards will have a regulatory commission determine their punishment

Manager:

• At any point in the season
  • Managers who have received 3 yellow cards will be suspended for 1 game
  • Managers who have received 8 yellow cards will be suspended for 2 games
  • Managers who have received 20 yellow cards will have a regulatory commission determine their punishment

Rumoured Incoming Players:

Reminder that Harry Darling got a red against us, which got him a three game ban. He has served two games, so if he joined us, he would next be eligible to play v Middlesbrough (H)

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Remember that, as per page 5 of this FA document, only cards received in the EFL Leagues count towards EFL League suspensions. Therefore any cards a player has received in the EPL, overseas leagues, or in a cup do not count towards a suspension playing in the league for Sheff Utd.

A question re Hamer if I may.

If he hits 15 at game 45, does that carry over into the play offs, should we get there?

 

[jono_t2000]

I'm pretty sure Vini was wagging his finger at the Derby player rather than simulating a card being brandished.