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Is this just your view? Or do you know the EPL are scrutinising the deal in the way you describe?The relegation buy back clause raises a number of issues for the EPL to consider when reviewing the terms of the contract drawn up by Villa and the Blades. Firstly that a compensation fee has been paid and it is not a loan in disguise. The terms of the contract should clearly state the initial down payment and payment terms thereafter.
The EPL rules require a compensation fee to be paid so despite some views to the contrary money will have to be exchanged between the Clubs. It can not be an accounting exercise as some are suggesting.
The deal is likely to be open to question across a number of fronts. As far as the big clubs are concerned it seems to be another attempt to avoid FFP requirements. This will raise concerns at the EPL, FA and FIFA. The EPL will have to assess if this work around impacts significantly on their loan process and potentially makes redundant the current clause that limits 2 EPL loans per EPL club.
Finally and possibly of more far reaching concern for the smaller clubs like SUFC there may be ramifications regarding the future payment of parachute payments. The whole idea of PP's are that they are a financial buffer for relegated clubs to stop them going under as a consequence of having to continue to pay high transfer fee installments and wages. There is an argument that by invoking relegation buy back clauses this negates the need for PP's in the future. It would be so Sheffield United to find a way to lose out on future PP's. The EPL have been very firm in their view that PP's stay to protect their members against relegation despite Rick Parry at the EFL fronting a campaign to remove them. If they see their own members finding ways to circumvent their existing rules they may not be as supportive in the future.
I suspect there will be a considerable amount of scrutiny concerning this deal with the usual suspects at the Daily Fail accusing the Club of foul play again. For all the reasons above I expect this loophole to be closed for future transfers.
Played in Villa's pre season gamesHas he had much of a pre season? Need him fit unlike most of our signings.
The relegation buy back clause raises a number of issues for the EPL to consider when reviewing the terms of the contract drawn up by Villa and the Blades. Firstly that a compensation fee has been paid and it is not a loan in disguise. The terms of the contract should clearly state the initial down payment and payment terms thereafter.
The EPL rules require a compensation fee to be paid so despite some views to the contrary money will have to be exchanged between the Clubs. It can not be an accounting exercise as some are suggesting.
The deal is likely to be open to question across a number of fronts. As far as the big clubs are concerned it seems to be another attempt to avoid FFP requirements. This will raise concerns at the EPL, FA and FIFA. The EPL will have to assess if this work around impacts significantly on their loan process and potentially makes redundant the current clause that limits 2 EPL loans per EPL club.
Finally and possibly of more far reaching concern for the smaller clubs like SUFC there may be ramifications regarding the future payment of parachute payments. The whole idea of PP's are that they are a financial buffer for relegated clubs to stop them going under as a consequence of having to continue to pay high transfer fee installments and wages. There is an argument that by invoking relegation buy back clauses this negates the need for PP's in the future. It would be so Sheffield United to find a way to lose out on future PP's. The EPL have been very firm in their view that PP's stay to protect their members against relegation despite Rick Parry at the EFL fronting a campaign to remove them. If they see their own members finding ways to circumvent their existing rules they may not be as supportive in the future.
I suspect there will be a considerable amount of scrutiny concerning this deal with the usual suspects at the Daily Fail accusing the Club of foul play again. For all the reasons above I expect this loophole to be closed for future transfers.
I canāt ever see the Premier League removing parachute payments. The Premier League want clubs to spend money in order for the league to be as competitive as possible.
Remove parachute payments and a good number of clubs would be forced to reduce their transfer/wages budgets. The weaker teams will inevitably get even weaker, which is not good for the ābest league in the worldā.
No not yet theyāre talking with the EFL about reforming them rather than abolishing them but who knows what that will entail. Theyāve offered to EFL a few hundred million in additional solidarity payments as a sweetener to try and get a deal but I donāt think anythingās been agreed as yet.Might be wrong but I thought they had already put a timeline on it to be phased out..
I canāt ever see the Premier League removing parachute payments. The Premier League want clubs to spend money in order for the league to be as competitive as possible.
Remove parachute payments and a good number of clubs would be forced to reduce their transfer/wages budgets. The weaker teams will inevitably get even weaker, which is not good for the ābest league in the worldā.
If they removed parachute payments they would have to remove promotions and relegationsNo not yet theyāre talking with the EFL about reforming them rather than abolishing them but who knows what that will entail. Theyāve offered to EFL a few hundred million in additional solidarity payments as a sweetener to try and get a deal but I donāt think anythingās been agreed as yet.
Hope you're not suggesting he'd play poorly to ensure a move back to Villa!If Archer doesn't like it here it would be in his interest if we are relegated.
Part of the parachute payment use is for risks taken in transfers, in particular losses. If you remove that loss, it has to be removed from the parachute payment.I canāt ever see the Premier League removing parachute payments. The Premier League want clubs to spend money in order for the league to be as competitive as possible
The relegation buy back clause raises a number of issues for the EPL to consider when reviewing the terms of the contract drawn up by Villa and the Blades. Firstly that a compensation fee has been paid and it is not a loan in disguise. The terms of the contract should clearly state the initial down payment and payment terms thereafter.
The EPL rules require a compensation fee to be paid so despite some views to the contrary money will have to be exchanged between the Clubs. It can not be an accounting exercise as some are suggesting.
The deal is likely to be open to question across a number of fronts. As far as the big clubs are concerned it seems to be another attempt to avoid FFP requirements. This will raise concerns at the EPL, FA and FIFA. The EPL will have to assess if this work around impacts significantly on their loan process and potentially makes redundant the current clause that limits 2 EPL loans per EPL club.
Finally and possibly of more far reaching concern for the smaller clubs like SUFC there may be ramifications regarding the future payment of parachute payments. The whole idea of PP's are that they are a financial buffer for relegated clubs to stop them going under as a consequence of having to continue to pay high transfer fee installments and wages. There is an argument that by invoking relegation buy back clauses this negates the need for PP's in the future. It would be so Sheffield United to find a way to lose out on future PP's. The EPL have been very firm in their view that PP's stay to protect their members against relegation despite Rick Parry at the EFL fronting a campaign to remove them. If they see their own members finding ways to circumvent their existing rules they may not be as supportive in the future.
I suspect there will be a considerable amount of scrutiny concerning this deal with the usual suspects at the Daily Fail accusing the Club of foul play again. For all the reasons above I expect this loophole to be closed for future transfers.
I don't think they could argue its a loan, as they would have to say we intended to get relegated for that to be the case.The relegation buy back clause raises a number of issues for the EPL to consider when reviewing the terms of the contract drawn up by Villa and the Blades. Firstly that a compensation fee has been paid and it is not a loan in disguise. The terms of the contract should clearly state the initial down payment and payment terms thereafter.
Fine by me BoxerBreaking news Archer is definitely out injured
But
Should be back to play against India in the test series
Is this just your view? Or do you know the EPL are scrutinising the deal in the way you describe?
Is this creative accountancy! (accountants of which I'm not?)rules are there and loopholes appear if the wording is not strong enough. Accountants are always looking for weaknesses in rules,could this be one?if so they will have to change the rules or wording of such rules.Is this just your view? Or do you know the EPL are scrutinising the deal in the way you describe?
It could be one, but at this stage there's no indication that the EPL, FA or FIFA consider it to be a one, which is what the previous poster was suggesting.Fine by me Boxer
Is this creative accountancy! (accountants of which I'm not?)rules are there and loopholes appear if the wording is not strong enough. Accountants are always looking for weaknesses in rules,could this be one?if so they will have to change the rules or wording of such rules.
I think you make some very good points here , Iām just guessing here but this isnāt a loan so the compensation payments will have been agreed and put in the contract, Iām guessing it will be small enough to not affect villa FFP issuesThe relegation buy back clause raises a number of issues for the EPL to consider when reviewing the terms of the contract drawn up by Villa and the Blades. Firstly that a compensation fee has been paid and it is not a loan in disguise. The terms of the contract should clearly state the initial down payment and payment terms thereafter.
The EPL rules require a compensation fee to be paid so despite some views to the contrary money will have to be exchanged between the Clubs. It can not be an accounting exercise as some are suggesting.
The deal is likely to be open to question across a number of fronts. As far as the big clubs are concerned it seems to be another attempt to avoid FFP requirements. This will raise concerns at the EPL, FA and FIFA. The EPL will have to assess if this work around impacts significantly on their loan process and potentially makes redundant the current clause that limits 2 EPL loans per EPL club.
Finally and possibly of more far reaching concern for the smaller clubs like SUFC there may be ramifications regarding the future payment of parachute payments. The whole idea of PP's are that they are a financial buffer for relegated clubs to stop them going under as a consequence of having to continue to pay high transfer fee installments and wages. There is an argument that by invoking relegation buy back clauses this negates the need for PP's in the future. It would be so Sheffield United to find a way to lose out on future PP's. The EPL have been very firm in their view that PP's stay to protect their members against relegation despite Rick Parry at the EFL fronting a campaign to remove them. If they see their own members finding ways to circumvent their existing rules they may not be as supportive in the future.
I suspect there will be a considerable amount of scrutiny concerning this deal with the usual suspects at the Daily Fail accusing the Club of foul play again. For all the reasons above I expect this loophole to be closed for future transfers.
What's not to like about s24su? Pommpey has been banned already so it can't be too badIf Archer doesn't like it here it would be in his interest if we are relegated.
What Iāve just been told-
Itās villa who have orchestrated the deal for their FFP.
9m up front
9m if we stay up
AVFC account for all 18m this season and this is why it will be in the media as an 18m deal.
8m buy back āoptionā if we go down.
Unbelievable deal for the Blades if true.
I donāt want to dampen anyone spirits but I live right next to the ground and floodlights are always on
Final offer you or a neighbour Ā£125 upfront for remaining home gamesCan I park on your drive on match days for Ā£5/match?
But but but but but the board and the prince don't know what they're doing! They are sat with their dicks in their hands!What Iāve just been told-
Itās villa who have orchestrated the deal for their FFP.
9m up front
9m if we stay up
AVFC account for all 18m this season and this is why it will be in the media as an 18m deal.
8m buy back āoptionā if we go down.
Unbelievable deal for the Blades if true.
Fuck you're right. I messed it up
Final offer you or a neighbour Ā£125 upfront for remaining home games
Lovely and positive9 million next year should help towards a new striker
Lol not sure on levels of sarcasm there, obviously we hope we stay up but if we donāt and Archer does go back then it will helpLovely and positive
At least Villa think weāre staying up.What Iāve just been told-
Itās villa who have orchestrated the deal for their FFP.
9m up front
9m if we stay up
AVFC account for all 18m this season and this is why it will be in the media as an 18m deal.
8m buy back āoptionā if we go down.
Unbelievable deal for the Blades if true.
Maybe Iām being stupid. Iām not a numbers person.9 million next year should help towards a new striker
Great deal, my only concern is our injury record - if he gets a season-ender, weāre 18m down.What Iāve just been told-
Itās villa who have orchestrated the deal for their FFP.
9m up front
9m if we stay up
AVFC account for all 18m this season and this is why it will be in the media as an 18m deal.
8m buy back āoptionā if we go down.
Unbelievable deal for the Blades if true.
just imagine Blade56 pulling up on your drive.Final offer you or a neighbour Ā£125 upfront for remaining home games
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