Uefa Women's Euro 2022 at Bramall Lane

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In this instance I think it was because in the last 10 minutes it essentially became a Cup game. I'm not up to speed at all on the details and this might be wrong but I think the Swiss needed to score to go through. They certainly seemed to be playing that way and taking a lot of risks (also hadn't they made 5 subs?). They were all set up for attacking, not set up for defending; the Dutch seemed to bring on some very good players, eg 22(?) and others, who were more than capable of taking advantage.

Got tickets for France v Holland. That could be a really good game.
Oh I agree that can happen across sport when chasing. I just think it’s a common occurrence from what I’ve seen.
 
I've loved the invasion of all the beautiful European girls in town. I was gutted when it became clear England will be playing here in the semi. Grrrrrrrrrr I suppose we can hope Spain win, but I doubt it.

So now rather than the wonderful atmosphere I was looking forward to, it will be ........................... Beautiful and charming European girls v Munters and Shit Wasps.
 
Just got back. A really enjoyable atmosphere with wife and child in tow. On the standard in general I had a few observations:

1. The level of technique on display is really good in the gaps between first touch and final ball. Some skilful players on display, well coached. I’d say League 1 as a standard, which is well ahead of schedule.
2. The game is noticeably slower and less physical. There were attacking situations that were allowed to continued that should have had the door slammed shut through brute force.
3. Not a hint of diving or even a sense of it. Every physical encounter was fought honestly.
4. Couple the slower pace with largely good technique you’d think first touch and final ball would be nearly perfect, but it isn’t, in fact it’s the opposite. Lots of poor passes, finishes and first touches. I think this is indicative of the professional aspect of the game being really young.
5. There seems to be a capitulation problem across the game which certainly fuels the high scorelines. You could see in real time, the Swiss almost give up when they went 2-1 down and gifted a couple more, it could have easily ended 6-1. I know the NI manager got in trouble for suggesting an emotional aspect to goals coming in batches. I definitely think it’s an issue the game needs to address (somehow). It does them a disservice to ignore it.

I definitely enjoyed it though.

Let's be totally honest, it's womens football played by women. It's a totally different game to mens football so enjoy it for what it is, a game so far off the standard of the men's game it's off the chart.

1. The game is nowhere close to League One standard. Maybe League One of the Bible Class League but not even close to a decent amateur men's league, let alone League One.

2. It's incredibly slow, and the physical side is so bad it looks like WWE. Whether that's down to poor balance or just a lack of viciousness I don't know, but when they do go in hard it's a tad cringeworthy.

3. There's footage of them diving aplenty on tinterweb but again, they're so bad at it there's no wonder they cut it out.

4. Slow pace and bang average technique doesn't make for good football.

5. Capitulation is what happens in kids games, enough said.

Believe it or not I'm not a fan 🙈. Having said that, if you are then I genuinely am glad that you enjoyed the day. The spectacle looks great, as does Sheffield and the Lane, so that's good and if folks have a fun day out that's marvelous.

UTBFTP
 
Just got back. A really enjoyable atmosphere with wife and child in tow. On the standard in general I had a few observations:

1. The level of technique on display is really good in the gaps between first touch and final ball. Some skilful players on display, well coached. I’d say League 1 as a standard, which is well ahead of schedule.
2. The game is noticeably slower and less physical. There were attacking situations that were allowed to continued that should have had the door slammed shut through brute force.
3. Not a hint of diving or even a sense of it. Every physical encounter was fought honestly.
4. Couple the slower pace with largely good technique you’d think first touch and final ball would be nearly perfect, but it isn’t, in fact it’s the opposite. Lots of poor passes, finishes and first touches. I think this is indicative of the professional aspect of the game being really young.
5. There seems to be a capitulation problem across the game which certainly fuels the high scorelines. You could see in real time, the Swiss almost give up when they went 2-1 down and gifted a couple more, it could have easily ended 6-1. I know the NI manager got in trouble for suggesting an emotional aspect to goals coming in batches. I definitely think it’s an issue the game needs to address (somehow). It does them a disservice to ignore it.

I definitely enjoyed it though.
I’ve been really impressed with the standard which is starting to become indicative of professional levels of training rather than players who go to work 5 days a week. Spain last night imparticular stood out in the way they move the ball around.

Technical standard still not at the level of the professional mens game which is to be expected given the womens game was held back in its development for 70 odd years. Also some people mistake a lack of pace and power for a lack of technique…..it’s a completely different game in that regard. The players in the womens Euros certainly seem to have a better first touch than non-league games I’ve been to. Maybe comparable to mens over 35s in that players don’t rely on physical attributes because they don’t have them, and those that do have a significant edge.

Either way I don’t get why people get so worked up about the disparity between mens and womens football….maybe it’s the typical sky sports armchair fan attitude. Personally I enjoy watching football at any level.
 
I’ve been really impressed with the standard which is starting to become indicative of professional levels of training rather than players who go to work 5 days a week. Spain last night imparticular stood out in the way they move the ball around.

Technical standard still not at the level of the professional mens game which is to be expected given the womens game was held back in its development for 70 odd years. Also some people mistake a lack of pace and power for a lack of technique…..it’s a completely different game in that regard. The players in the womens Euros certainly seem to have a better first touch than non-league games I’ve been to. Maybe comparable to mens over 35s in that players don’t rely on physical attributes because they don’t have them, and those that do have a significant edge.

Either way I don’t get why people get so worked up about the disparity between mens and womens football….maybe it’s the typical sky sports armchair fan attitude. Personally I enjoy watching football at any level.
The Swiss number 10 was excellent and wouldn't look out of place in League One.
 


this is the song they were playing after the final whistle btw. Great fun

FFS, good job the games weren't being played at Swillsborough, otherwise the piggy twats would be adopting this as their own. Imagine 20k (sorry meant 200k) piggies doing this every fortnight.
 
This. A million times. After having just watched that live, the men's game is, with honorable exceptions, a total embarrassment.

It's the money involvement.
There's little money in the women game, the financial rewards aren't that high, so there's more incentive to play games in the right spirit.
In the mens game it's more of a win at any costs mentality and it's accepted as a positive and the norm.
 
Let's be totally honest, it's womens football played by women. It's a totally different game to mens football so enjoy it for what it is, a game so far off the standard of the men's game it's off the chart.

1. The game is nowhere close to League One standard. Maybe League One of the Bible Class League but not even close to a decent amateur men's league, let alone League One.

The women have the physicality (speed, size and strength) of 15 year old boys
but the technique is very good with several having real quality.
Enjoy watching Fran Kirby and some of England play in this tournement has been really entertaining.
Some of the quick passing has been Man City esque at time, altho there's very little closing down.

Due to the physical disadvantage they've no chance against a mens semi pro team and although technically better than, might even struggle (to some degree) against a parks team as some of the technically inferior men would resort to fouling/ pushing/ intimidation etc.

You can't under estimate size and strength, it's becomes something like David versus Goliath.
Skill will help even things up but it's still a game that relies more on physicality than skill.
 
Been to all 3 games played at the Lane so far and have thoroughly enjoyed every single one. We take the standard for what it is, (it can't be compared with the mens game) and we get involved in the atmosphere and have had a great time. We have tickets for the semi final and can't wait, irrespective of who gets there.
 


this is the song they were playing after the final whistle btw. Great fun


That's a fun song!

Not seen tonight's game. But the games I have seen, very neat and tidy but I'd question whether it's up to league 1 standard. But you can tell there is some quality to the training. Except for some of the goalkeeping which has been comical at times
 
Really enjoyed that today. Had a few beers in the Frog & Parrot first, big group of Swiss in there and it was great to see so many Dutch & Swiss fans walking past. Went down to the fan park just in time for the Netherlands fan walk and that was fantastic, brilliant to be a part of it.

The game itself was fine, it was just awesome to see Sheffield & Bramall Lane in such a good light. Great day.





 

It's the money involvement.
There's little money in the women game, the financial rewards aren't that high, so there's more incentive to play games in the right spirit.
In the mens game it's more of a win at any costs mentality and it's accepted as a positive and the norm.
I think it's down to the administrators. If they wanted to clean up the men's game they could. There are plenty of high stakes/high value sports where you don't have to sit through extended periods of WWE/gamesmanship.

For instance, and I haven't watched it for 20 years or so maybe they're alll prima donna cry-babies now, but that always struck me about American Football. No matter how bad the call, they got on with the game. And there were a few bob at stake in those games. I think there were incentives in the rules for them to do that.

Taking it further, it's hard to think of another sport which suffers as badly as men's football? At times games are just not much more than extended periods of WWE.

Diving, arguing with the ref, rolling around, arguing with the linesman, time-wasting, arguing with each other, it's all a blight on the game.

I enjoyed the game today for all sorts of reasons, but probably the main one is they played football.
 
I did wonder how the usually very tall Dutch would cope with notoriously tight knee room at Bramall Lane?
 
Really enjoyed that today. Had a few beers in the Frog & Parrot first, big group of Swiss in there and it was great to see so many Dutch & Swiss fans walking past. Went down to the fan park just in time for the Netherlands fan walk and that was fantastic, brilliant to be a part of it.

The game itself was fine, it was just awesome to see Sheffield & Bramall Lane in such a good light. Great day.






You were slightly to the left of me. Bet we were stood next to each other 🤣
 
England v Spain in the quarter finals. I'll be supporting Spain. Although I have a British passport I live in Spain and my partner is Spanish - and I want the Spanish fans to come to Sheffield for the semi final.

If it were the men's tournament there's no way I'd be supporting England's opponents, but for some reason in the women's game it seems okay.
 
England v Spain in the quarter finals. I'll be supporting Spain. Although I have a British passport I live in Spain and my partner is Spanish - and I want the Spanish fans to come to Sheffield for the semi final.

If it were the men's tournament there's no way I'd be supporting England's opponents, but for some reason in the women's game it seems okay.

I think whatever anyone's wider views on the women's game might be, there's no denying it's been a good thing for the city.

Last couple of times I've been down on a Saturday morning, it's just been a good atmosphere, better vibe.
 
Re womens football. Anyone can look good smashing in great shots. The fundamental difference to the mens game is defending. Basically they are total shite. That's why they get so many goals. Or not, if you're as poor as today's spectacles were.

jesus shut up man, if you think it’s shite don’t watch it and don’t comment on it, see plenty of worse defending in the men’s game daily yet I don’t see anyone claiming it’s because they’re men
 

jesus shut up man, if you think it’s shite don’t watch it and don’t comment on it, see plenty of worse defending in the men’s game daily yet I don’t see anyone claiming it’s because they’re men
Shut up?? Sorry I thought the whole point of a comment platform is to air one's opinions. Oh and to be clear I stopped watching it ages ago. Because in my opinion ( if that's alright with you) it's crap.
 

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