CONFIRMED Adam Davies

[LewishamBlade]

We seem to be fishing around in the bargain bin already, which is a shame. Adam Davies and Wes Foderingham aren't exactly screaming out 'just relegated from the Premier League' quality, but they are both ok. Both with evident weaknesses. But at least they're not Robin Olsen.

 

[Tarqs]

We seem to be fishing around in the bargain bin already, which is a shame. Adam Davies and Wes Foderingham aren't exactly screaming out 'just relegated from the Premier League' quality, but they are both ok. Both with evident weaknesses. But at least they're not Robin Olsen.

Who ironically would be classed as 'just relegated from Premier League quality'.....

 

[LewishamBlade]

Who ironically would be classed as 'just relegated from Premier League quality'.....

Sam Johnstone, Paulo Gazzaniga. Our 2 are way way off that level.

Olsen I think is actually alright, he must be to have the career he's had, but he clearly didn't want to be here and it showed.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

Smart bit of business for 250k

 

[mattbianco1]

Sam Johnstone, Paulo Gazzaniga. Our 2 are way way off that level.

Johnstone has been at WBA for nearly 4 years now - they just haven't sold him.

Gazzaniga, i'm guessing you're mentioning because he used to "play" for Tottenham? He's not even Fulham's number 1. His last Spurs app was March 2020

 

[CPB]

I miss JOC

Just thought the same watching that video, the run and cross that led to the goal, we don't have that without him from LCB.

 

[LewishamBlade]

Johnstone has been at WBA for nearly 4 years now - they just haven't sold him.

Gazzaniga, i'm guessing you're mentioning because he used to "play" for Tottenham? He's not even Fulham's number 1. His last Spurs app was March 2020

Irrelevant really, can't compare them to Wes and Davies.

Gazzaniga and Marek Rodak have both played about the same amount of games, he has been in the Argentine national squad and been competent in the Prem - he walks into our number 1 spot

 

[Bookers Mullet]

Irrelevant really, can't compare them to Wes and Davies.

Gazzaniga and Marek Rodak have both played about the same amount of games, he has been in the Argentine national squad and been competent in the Prem - he walks into our number 1 spot

Yeah but was he born in Germany?

 

[mattbianco1]

Irrelevant really, can't compare them to Wes and Davies.

Gazzaniga and Marek Rodak have both played about the same amount of games, he has been in the Argentine national squad and been competent in the Prem - he walks into our number 1 spot

And yet Foderingham has the highest clean sheet percentage of any 'regular' GK in the division

 

[YorkBlade]

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

Kriis Shôrtê

 

[1973Blade]

I knew the Paul Casey one as well. Just one of the things that falls out of your head as you rumble on

Very true. I imagine that one day I will be in a care home unable to remember if I have eaten but I will still know some trivia about United!

 

[LewishamBlade]

And yet Foderingham has the highest clean sheet percentage of any 'regular' GK in the division

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I mean he's playing out of his skin, can't be argued. But you wouldn't want him as a long term number 1.

 

[Snowflake]

I mean he's playing out of his skin, can't be argued. But you wouldn't want him as a long term number 1.

Why not in this division ?
He has looked confident and steady, with only one or two aberrations.

 

[Champagneblade]

Smart bit of business for 250k

Not sure there is actually a fee involved. I asked Darren this and he advised no fee and that they were happy to clear the wages.

To be fair, he has played quite a few first team games this season though he is out of contract in the summer. They probably thing better let him go than pay say 16k per week and still pay 3 other senior keepers.

We seem to be fishing around in the bargain bin already, which is a shame. Adam Davies and Wes Foderingham aren't exactly screaming out 'just relegated from the Premier League' quality, but they are both ok. Both with evident weaknesses. But at least they're not Robin Olsen.

Just curious. What are the evident weaknesses? Is this a general statement or is there a specific observation? I.e. he once was on the books of the Pigs!

Irrelevant really, can't compare them to Wes and Davies.

Gazzaniga and Marek Rodak have both played about the same amount of games, he has been in the Argentine national squad and been competent in the Prem - he walks into our number 1 spot

Allow me to introduce you to Exhibit A Robin Olsen.

Getting splinters internationally while Man U's third keeper wracks up almost 100+ appearances is hardly a ringing endorsement. He's 30 and he's played only 115 matches. Two thirds of Rodak's 150 matches were for Rotherham and Accrington.

In contrast Wes has played 402 matches and Davies 250.

Maybe for you the Fulham guys pass the eye test but I don't think either have anywhere near the consistent experience as the two we have.

 

[LewishamBlade]

Not sure there is actually a fee involved. I asked Darren this and he advised no fee and that they were happy to clear the wages.

To be fair, he has played quite a few first team games this season though he is out of contract in the summer. They probably thing better let him go than pay say 16k per week and still pay 3 other senior keepers.


Just curious. What are the evident weaknesses? Is this a general statement or is there a specific observation? I.e. he once was on the books of the Pigs!


Allow me to introduce you to Exhibit A Robin Olsen.

Getting splinters internationally while Man U's third keeper wracks up almost 100+ appearances is hardly a ringing endorsement. He's 30 and he's played only 115 matches. Two thirds of Rodak's 150 matches were for Rotherham and Accrington.

In contrast Wes has played 402 matches and Davies 250.

Maybe for you the Fulham guys pass the eye test but I don't think either have anywhere near the consistent experience as the two we have.

Davies has a reputation for being poor from crosses and set plays, tendency to flap - albeit a great shot stopper from the Dingles I've heard from in the past. And there's a reason he hasn't nailed down Stoke's number 1 spot despite it being very much up for grabs.
Foderingham has lapses in concentration and he's quite short, and although he's fine at the moment you wouldn't want him in the team as a number 1 long term. I think he's been pretty well protected since we went to a back 5 which helps.

You talk about Rodak's games being for Rotherham and Accrington, but of Wes' 450 games how many of those were for Bromley, Swindon or in the Scottish Championship?

Lets face it, you could go through the Championship and probably say to a neutral 2/3s of the league minimum have a better number 1 than us. Not what you'd expect from a club in our position.

 

[Champagneblade]

Davies has a reputation for being poor from crosses and set plays, tendency to flap - albeit a great shot stopper from the Dingles I've heard from in the past. And there's a reason he hasn't nailed down Stoke's number 1 spot despite it being very much up for grabs.
Foderingham has lapses in concentration and he's quite short, and although he's fine at the moment you wouldn't want him in the team as a number 1 long term. I think he's been pretty well protected since we went to a back 5 which helps.

You talk about Rodak's games being for Rotherham and Accrington, but of Wes' 450 games how many of those were for Bromley, Swindon or in the Scottish Championship?

Lets face it, you could go through the Championship and probably say to a neutral 2/3s of the league minimum have a better number 1 than us. Not what you'd expect from a club in our position.

I'm a firm believer that as far as managers and players go, it's what they do for you, not anyone else and I have to say I have been pleasantly surprised by Wes on what I've seen.

I find his overall handling has been impeccable and he's made some terrific reaction saves against Peterborough, Cardiff to name but two. He was smartly down to the Jerome effort the other day. He doesn't seem to do it for the cameras like Ramsdale seems to have done at Arsenal.

A Rangers mate told me he never let then down. He played 74 games in the SPL so it's not as if he just played in the Scottish Championship.

He's been far more consistent than Ramsdale was to be fair. Ramsdale finished strongly but he seemed an absolute dud up to Christmas.

 

[Sithblade]

Kriis Shôrtê

Craig Short was born in Bridlington and during WW2 some Germans bombed Bridlington.

 

[Hagansbootlaces]

Davies has a reputation for being poor from crosses and set plays, tendency to flap - albeit a great shot stopper from the Dingles I've heard from in the past. And there's a reason he hasn't nailed down Stoke's number 1 spot despite it being very much up for grabs.
Foderingham has lapses in concentration and he's quite short, and although he's fine at the moment you wouldn't want him in the team as a number 1 long term. I think he's been pretty well protected since we went to a back 5 which helps.

You talk about Rodak's games being for Rotherham and Accrington, but of Wes' 450 games how many of those were for Bromley, Swindon or in the Scottish Championship?

Lets face it, you could go through the Championship and probably say to a neutral 2/3s of the league minimum have a better number 1 than us. Not what you'd expect from a club in our position.

Can you explain regards, a club in our position and where or what you think that is, bearing in mind the money spent, the players still on the books, wages and none of the big signings remotely close to 'paying' their fees back in performances

 

[LewishamBlade]

Can you explain regards, a club in our position and where or what you think that is, bearing in mind the money spent, the players still on the books, wages and none of the big signings remotely close to 'paying' their fees back in performances

We've just come down from the Prem and we are already in the bargain bin for signings despite parachute payments and getting £30m for a goalkeeper.

 

[T-Blade]

Davies has a reputation for being poor from crosses and set plays, tendency to flap - albeit a great shot stopper from the Dingles I've heard from in the past. And there's a reason he hasn't nailed down Stoke's number 1 spot despite it being very much up for grabs.
Foderingham has lapses in concentration and he's quite short, and although he's fine at the moment you wouldn't want him in the team as a number 1 long term. I think he's been pretty well protected since we went to a back 5 which helps.

You talk about Rodak's games being for Rotherham and Accrington, but of Wes' 450 games how many of those were for Bromley, Swindon or in the Scottish Championship?

Lets face it, you could go through the Championship and probably say to a neutral 2/3s of the league minimum have a better number 1 than us. Not what you'd expect from a club in our position.

Davies is a far better keeper than Rodak. Give me our 2 over Fulham’s any day. We now have 2 solid Championship keepers don’t know what your complaining about

 

[LewishamBlade]

I'm a firm believer that as far as managers and players go, it's what they do for you, not anyone else and I have to say I have been pleasantly surprised by Wes on what I've seen.

I find his overall handling has been impeccable and he's made some terrific reaction saves against Peterborough, Cardiff to name but two. He was smartly down to the Jerome effort the other day. He doesn't seem to do it for the cameras like Ramsdale seems to have done at Arsenal.

A Rangers mate told me he never let then down. He played 74 games in the SPL so it's not as if he just played in the Scottish Championship.

He's been far more consistent than Ramsdale was to be fair. Ramsdale finished strongly but he seemed an absolute dud up to Christmas.

Me too, but you can't just pretend their past hasn't happened in the same breath.

I'll stand by in my opinion he's a perfectly adequate number 2 at this level, but I just think he's playing extremely well and out of his skin at the moment and I can't see it lasting.

 

[LewishamBlade]

Davies is a far better keeper than Rodak. Give me our 2 over Fulham’s any day. We now have 2 solid Championship keepers don’t know what your complaining about

Based on what?

 

[Hagansbootlaces]

We've just come down from the Prem and we are already in the bargain bin for signings despite parachute payments and getting £30m for a goalkeeper.

Who do you suggest we should have bought, because it's easy, you just offer the money, offer the wages and that's it, simples

 

[Champagneblade]

Me too, but you can't just pretend their past hasn't happened in the same breath.

I'll stand by in my opinion he's a perfectly adequate number 2 at this level, but I just think he's playing extremely well and out of his skin at the moment and I can't see it lasting.

It only has to last another 21, possibly 24 matches

 

[LewishamBlade]

Who do you suggest we should have bought, because it's easy, you just offer the money, offer the wages and that's it, simples

Oh I don't know, maybe a keeper who's had rock solid proof of being competent at this level? Too much to ask...

Well it really should be that simple when you're Sheffield United who finished 9th in the PL 2 years ago. There shouldn't be many Championship level players we can't attract. If not, you have to ask why we aren't able to attract players then don't you?

 

[Weasel]

If we get Davies (a good keeper especially for the championship) then I think that we will have a very decent pair of keepers in our squad. Not world beaters but both very capable and each can win us a game on their day.

I'd much prefer to have Davies than Olsen and that's not even taking wages into consideration. Davies will show that he is a better keeper than Olsen (who was a liability) whilst importantly, if he signs it will be because he actually back himself to be the number 1 idc and wants to be here. Unlike Olsen who couldn't jump ship quick enough.

Nothing to complain about if we get Davies and Wes competing. What do some people want, Kelly and Tracey to be reincarnated? If we have a decent pair of keepers we have ticked that box for next season and the rest of this.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Oh I don't know, maybe a keeper who's had rock solid proof of being competent at this level? Too much to ask...

Well it really should be that simple when you're Sheffield United who finished 9th in the PL 2 years ago. There shouldn't be many Championship level players we can't attract. If not, you have to ask why we aren't able to attract players then don't you?

We were in the Prem 2 years ago. Ahead of the Club infrastructure. Ahead of the Club being fully, financially sustainable for that level. We were punching and the 2nd season there showed it. We paid over the odds for a few player and gave bloated contracts to some dead weight. Bottom line when asking why we can't attract players? Money.

 

[LewishamBlade]

If we get Davies (a good keeper especially for the championship) then I think that we will have a very decent pair of keepers in our squad. Not world beaters but both very capable and each can win us a game on their day.

I'd much prefer to have Davies than Olsen and that's not even taking wages into consideration. Davies will show that he is a better keeper than Olsen (who was a liability) whilst importantly, if he signs it will be because he actually back himself to be the number 1 idc and wants to be here. Unlike Olsen who couldn't jump ship quick enough.

Nothing to complain about if we get Davies and Wes competing. What do some people want, Kelly and Tracey to be reincarnated? If we have a decent pair of keepers we have ticked that box for next season and the rest of this.

I agree with the fact I prefer him to Olsen. But that's just like having Morrison's own danish back bacon compared to turkey bacon.

I think it's perfectly understandable for people to question why we already seem to be absolutely fucking skint despite the sale of Ramsdale and parachute payments and are signing the type of players I'd be expecting Peterborough to be after. 2 solid loans, but they won't be here next season.

 

[LewishamBlade]

We were in the Prem 2 years ago. Ahead of the Club infrastructure. Ahead of the Club being fully, financially sustainable for that level. We were punching and the 2nd season there showed it. We paid over the odds for a few player and gave bloated contracts to some dead weight. Bottom line when asking why we can't attract players? Money.

We were, and this is true, but we shouldn't be in the state we are already. 2 of our better (one being the best we have) players won't be here next season. Worry is, how are we going to replace them with the complete lack of any budget we seemingly have?

I think a big reason could be the facilities on offer, which we seem to be no closer to getting sorted.

Hopefully freeing up the wages of the likes of Robinson, Osborn, Mousset etc. gives us enough room to maneuver in the transfer market. We can't carry on with just loans, look what happened to us last time we tried to get by in the Championship relying on a core of loan players... 1 or 2 fair enough, but we are taking the piss with it.