CONFIRMED Adam Davies

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SouthEssexBlade said:
It's mad the things that stick. I notice that Davies was born in Rinteln, same as Casey, which means they are both military kids as that was the site of a British base in Germany.
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Where my daughter was born. She "loves it" when I call her a little German.
 

LewishamBlade said:
We were, and this is true, but we shouldn't be in the state we are already. 2 of our better (one being the best we have) players won't be here next season. Worry is, how are we going to replace them with the complete lack of any budget we seemingly have?

I think a big reason could be the facilities on offer, which we seem to be no closer to getting sorted.

Hopefully freeing up the wages of the likes of Robinson, Osborn, Mousset etc. gives us enough room to maneuver in the transfer market. We can't carry on with just loans, look what happened to us last time we tried to get by in the Championship relying on a core of loan players... 1 or 2 fair enough, but we are taking the piss with it.
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Agreed, we shouldn't, in an Ideal World but here we are. Not enough cash. The Manager will do what he can. The Players will do what they can. The Academy will fill in where they can. The Owner will do what he has to.....

FWIW, I think the best approach we can take, while acknowledging we're basically skint, is: Offload the Big Earners who aren't playing. Focus on the next crop of Academy Prospects - there are 2 or 3 knocking on the 1st Team Squad's door and plug any gaps in experience / positions with Loans. Basically, the reason{s} PH was appointed....
 
Champagneblade said:
Not sure there is actually a fee involved. I asked Darren this and he advised no fee and that they were happy to clear the wages.

To be fair, he has played quite a few first team games this season though he is out of contract in the summer. They probably thing better let him go than pay say 16k per week and still pay 3 other senior keepers.


Just curious. What are the evident weaknesses? Is this a general statement or is there a specific observation? I.e. he once was on the books of the Pigs!


Allow me to introduce you to Exhibit A Robin Olsen.

Getting splinters internationally while Man U's third keeper wracks up almost 100+ appearances is hardly a ringing endorsement. He's 30 and he's played only 115 matches. Two thirds of Rodak's 150 matches were for Rotherham and Accrington.

In contrast Wes has played 402 matches and Davies 250.

Maybe for you the Fulham guys pass the eye test but I don't think either have anywhere near the consistent experience as the two we have.
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Olsen back in his favourite position on Saturday, sat on the bench.
 
Ron_Justice said:
Agreed, we shouldn't, in an Ideal World but here we are. Not enough cash. The Manager will do what he can. The Players will do what they can. The Academy will fill in where they can. The Owner will do what he has to.....

FWIW, I think the best approach we can take, while acknowledging we're basically skint, is: Offload the Big Earners who aren't playing. Focus on the next crop of Academy Prospects - there are 2 or 3 knocking on the 1st Team Squad's door and plug any gaps in experience / positions with Loans. Basically, the reason{s} PH was appointed....
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There's no reason we shouldn't utilize the obviously promising U23's as and when we can for depth. They'll either sink or swim but with the nucleus of first teamers around them, if they're talented enough they'll survive at worst thrive at best. I thought Gordon was great against Wolves taking everything into account.

Brunt, Lopata, Seriki, Arblaster, Maguire, Ayari, Hackford (maybe, maybe not, hardly a frequent watched of U23's any more) off the top of my head should be able to be brought into the fold in the coming year or so you'd have hoped and not let the team down. Then you've obviously got Jebbo who if he isn't sold HAS to be a first teamer next season. We can get by doing that, but we really need to be able to sign some experienced quality to complement that. They need help.

And the big earners need to start stepping up to the plate too, obviously. By the looks of it Brewster is starting to do that, it's a start.
 
LewishamBlade said:
There's no reason we shouldn't utilize the obviously promising U23's as and when we can for depth. They'll either sink or swim but with the nucleus of first teamers around them, if they're talented enough they'll survive at worst thrive at best. I thought Gordon was great against Wolves taking everything into account.

Brunt, Lopata, Seriki, Arblaster, Maguire, Ayari, Hackford (maybe, maybe not, hardly a frequent watched of U23's any more) off the top of my head should be able to be brought into the fold in the coming year or so you'd have hoped and not let the team down. Then you've obviously got Jebbo who if he isn't sold HAS to be a first teamer next season. We can get by doing that, but we really need to be able to sign some experienced quality to complement that. They need help.

And the big earners need to start stepping up to the plate too, obviously. By the looks of it Brewster is starting to do that, it's a start.
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Lopata will be knocking on the door next year so will Gordon and Jebbison.

Ayari not ready has plenty of skill but isn’t dominating games like he should do yet he’s nowhere near where Ndiaye was at last year but that’s fine he has time.

Brunt I think will be a slow burner who works his way up through the leagues a bit like RND because he’s not shown the flashy moments that make you willing to write off the growing pains so he’ll learn his craft out on loan.

Arblaster, Maguire, Brooks and Peck I like a lot but they’re still young and probably need another year or two out on loan worst thing that could happen with them is that they’re kept hanging around not developing like Slater was.

Seriki looks like the terrible loan at Beerschot has rocked him he needs time to get his confidence back.

Hackford has pretty much lost this whole season to injury so that will have put his time line back a bit.

Osula looks impressive to me has all the tools to be a modern centre forward good sized great athlete can finish but again he’ll need some time on loan to learn what it’s like to be shithoused by big centrebacks.

It’s a very promising crop but not all will make it and we’ll hurt their chances keeping them here for depth before they’re ready they need to learn how to play men’s football and develop the tricks of the trade and the dark arts that make the difference. It’s taken Brewster 12-18 months to start to learn those lessons.
 
LewishamBlade said:
We were, and this is true, but we shouldn't be in the state we are already. 2 of our better (one being the best we have) players won't be here next season. Worry is, how are we going to replace them with the complete lack of any budget we seemingly have?

I think a big reason could be the facilities on offer, which we seem to be no closer to getting sorted.

Hopefully freeing up the wages of the likes of Robinson, Osborn, Mousset etc. gives us enough room to maneuver in the transfer market. We can't carry on with just loans, look what happened to us last time we tried to get by in the Championship relying on a core of loan players... 1 or 2 fair enough, but we are taking the piss with it.
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You just contradicted yourself, as in there is something wrong if we can't attract top championship players, then the facilities on offer, and once again by listing players we have to move on in order to buy
 
Think Wes has done well here and clearly deserved to be starting ahead of Olsen (imo).

Think alot of the doubts about Wes (myself included) were based off his first handful of performances where he made some gaffs and looked a Bomb scare if we are being honest.

Think that first impression has stuck but he’s working to undo it!
 
Bladeinleeds said:
Think Wes has done well here and clearly deserved to be starting ahead of Olsen (imo).

Think alot of the doubts about Wes (myself included) were based off his first handful of performances where he made some gaffs and looked a Bomb scare if we are being honest.

Think that first impression has stuck but he’s working to undo it!
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He still looks a bomb scare with the ball at his feet, but it all adds to the excitement, and takes from my underwear budget, I guess.
 
Yogi said:
Lopata will be knocking on the door next year so will Gordon and Jebbison.

Ayari not ready has plenty of skill but isn’t dominating games like he should do yet he’s nowhere near where Ndiaye was at last year but that’s fine he has time.

Brunt I think will be a slow burner who works his way up through the leagues a bit like RND because he’s not shown the flashy moments that make you willing to write off the growing pains so he’ll learn his craft out on loan.

Arblaster, Maguire, Brooks and Peck I like a lot but they’re still young and probably need another year or two out on loan worst thing that could happen with them is that they’re kept hanging around not developing like Slater was.

Seriki looks like the terrible loan at Beerschot has rocked him he needs time to get his confidence back.

Hackford has pretty much lost this whole season to injury so that will have put his time line back a bit.

Osula looks impressive to me has all the tools to be a modern centre forward good sized great athlete can finish but again he’ll need some time on loan to learn what it’s like to be shithoused by big centrebacks.

It’s a very promising crop but not all will make it and we’ll hurt their chances keeping them here for depth before they’re ready they need to learn how to play men’s football and develop the tricks of the trade and the dark arts that make the difference. It’s taken Brewster 12-18 months to start to learn those lessons.
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Surprised no one has mentioned Harrison Neal who is getting rave reports in none league moved up to National league from
National league north.
On loan to Southend for rest of season.
Obviously not all will make it.
The quality around the development squad is definitely an upgrade on the one which reached the FA youth cup final. a few came through that team ,i'me expecting a good few will come through from our present crop.They are more athletic which is a vital component in the modern game.
 
finlaytheblade said:
Surprised no one has mentioned Harrison Neal who is getting rave reports in none league moved up to National league from
National league north.
On loan to Southend for rest of season.
Obviously not all will make it.
The quality around the development squad is definitely an upgrade on the one which reached the FA youth cup final. a few came through that team ,i'me expecting a good few will come through from our present crop.They are more athletic which is a vital component in the modern game.
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Good point I’d put Neal in the same bracket as Brunt doesn’t have the flashy plays to compensate for the growing pains so will have to work his way up.

Yeah it is a very good group I think the difference between the FA youth cup squad and this one in terms of youth success was the FA youth cup squad had a stronger foundation with Long, Maguire and Kennedy where as this group is better at the top of the pitch
 

finlaytheblade said:
Surprised no one has mentioned Harrison Neal who is getting rave reports in none league moved up to National league from
National league north.
On loan to Southend for rest of season.
Obviously not all will make it.
The quality around the development squad is definitely an upgrade on the one which reached the FA youth cup final. a few came through that team ,i'me expecting a good few will come through from our present crop.They are more athletic which is a vital component in the modern game.
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If you look how many of the youth players of any set up truly make it having 2/3 be good enough would be an above average result and anyone expecting more is likely being very optimistic
 
Berkshire Blade said:
If you look how many of the youth players of any set up truly make it having 2/3 be good enough would be an above average result and anyone expecting more is likely being very optimistic
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It's a promising crop, with clearly good results against their peers over the past few years and a good coaching team developing them.

With the Championship sides now putting more onus on their own youth whether by choice or force due to FFP, that can only be a good thing. Boro, Blackburn and obviously Derby being the main examples. But all doing well, even Derby and they've been extreme with it. They're not doing themselves a disservice at all.
 
LewishamBlade said:
It's a promising crop, with clearly good results against their peers over the past few years and a good coaching team developing them.

With the Championship sides now putting more onus on their own youth whether by choice or force due to FFP, that can only be a good thing. Boro, Blackburn and obviously Derby being the main examples. But all doing well, even Derby and they've been extreme with it. They're not doing themselves a disservice at all.
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Boro - cat 1 academy
Blackburn - cat 1 academy
Derby - cat 1 academy (currently)

We're doing well but if there's a serious long-term strategy to develop talent in-house then we have to invest in the training facilities. Other Cat 1 academies in the Championship: Birmingham (since May last year), Reading, Fulham & Forest; all of whom have also had success bringing players through.
 
Balham Blade said:
Boro - cat 1 academy
Blackburn - cat 1 academy
Derby - cat 1 academy (currently)

We're doing well but if there's a serious long-term strategy to develop talent in-house then we have to invest in the training facilities. Other Cat 1 academies in the Championship: Birmingham (since May last year), Reading, Fulham & Forest; all of whom have also had success bringing players through.
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Agreed, 100%. We need to invest in the facilities big style.
 

6 month deal. Not sure how I feel about that but I'm guessing that gives him the option to find a better salary in the summer. Whilst it's prudent business, it's also another alarm bell in terms of our salary structure.
 
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