Board left with no choice

[BlairBlade]

That's a slant on it. The other slant is that he's just pointed out what's obvious to everyone in the footballing world - that our players aren't good enough to compete with most in the premier league.

That's not "continually slagging your boss off".

Although one of the problems must be that the players who "aren't good enough to compete" have been brought in by CW, particularly those players in the last two seasons.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Sheffield United Owner Wordsearch

Fleck Flu
Egan sunburn
Asset stripping
Selling the ground
Weers PL munny gone
Dodgy Arabs
Paying for foreign clubs we ar munny

 

[cooperblade]

and the Prince said they wanted him to stay next season, 100%.
The club have said they haven't sacked him, so he's resigned and they'll come up with an agreement and put out mutually agreed.
This is on Chris, so I'll ask again, what should they have done? Given him everything he wanted? Complete control?

Depends on what he wanted and whether we're capable of giving it to him.

We're only getting one side of the story at the moment and from that (and taking it with a pinch of salt), it doesn't appear that he's asked for the world.

Some possible scenarios:

He's made unreasonable demands and the board won't agree - in that case, it makes sense for him to leave.
He's made reasonable demands and the board could make them happen but won't - in that case, it looks a terrible decision.
He's made reasonable demands and the board can't make them happen - in that case, it makes sense for him to leave but I'm very worried about the future of the club.

I hope it's number 1 but fear it's number 3.

 

[Bashamed]

I'd suggest he does yes to protect his investment if nothing else.

We'll see how it turns out wont we

 

[1987]

To 31/07/2019 28m in shares in SUFC. Plus £5m for Kevs?

Anything since we’ll see before 30/04/2021.

Cheers mate, more than i thought and less than some seem to think. Be interested to see last year and half.

 

[Kempy]

Lets face it, the writing's been on the wall. And I really doubt Prince and co wanted it to come to this, because they know exactly what Wilder means to the fanbase.

But. Every press conference if it hasn't been blowing smoke up the opposition's arse has been thinly veiled digs at the board.
He's been struggling like never before so he's been punching out, I get that, but destroying your relationship with those above you probably isn't a good idea.
Dragging our crap through the media has been very unsavoury to see, and it's only been from one party.

He's been backed, to the volume NO manager of this club ever has been, or likely ever will be again in the near future. To the sound of £130m.
The transfers haven't been a particular success so the board are rumoured to want a DoF in, that's a good model to follow and all the elite (and the majority of the Prem) have in place. It's thinking to the future. Chris didn't like it. But if he can't work with a DoF he'll never get a job at a top club.

Thanks for everything Chris, and I'm sad it's had to happen like this. But I really think it's for the best for all concerned.
We I suspect will now get a DoF in place and create a new club structure which we will need to become a sustainable PL club (fucking hell, even Burnley have one).
I expect him to take a little break and get a job at a Championship club angling for promotion late next season. And that will be really sad to see him in the opposition dugout.

The club isn't ending, managers come and go, although this one hurts at the minute. And it hurts we didn't get to say goodbye or thank him for the previous 4 years.
My personal views on the situation and this season aside, he is the best I've ever seen and I literally have CWAK tattooed on my arse.
He leaves us in a far better state than when he took over, now it's over to the board to put their plans into play. And none of this 'it will set us back 10 years' bollocks, we are about to go down with parachute payments and the basics of a great championship squad. Few additions here and there, create a new structure at the club with a DoF and a European scouting network - and with a good manager at the helm we'll be up there. Don't you worry about that.

But again, thanks for everything Chris. Brought our club back from the dead and we will never forget it. Legend.

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Alright, I’ll bite and take the hit for it.

You are a complete and utter moron and it figures that you have so much time on your hands to be on here spouting pure rubbish as you do every single day.

Clown

 

[Chingo]

Why do we need a DoF if we’re not gonna buy anyone next season , sounds more like we need an administrator to see over all the outgoings

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We'll see how it turns out wont we

We will, but I don't think that changes your accusation.
He will always want to protect his investment, whether he's competent and makes the right decisions to do that is another matter.

 

[HD8 Blades]

You were on here a while back putting the case forward for Nigel Clough and Big Sam to replace Wilder. Will you ever be taken seriously again?

 

[S40BLADE]

case forward for Nigel Clough

No one seriously did this AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[cc1]

Lets face it, the writing's been on the wall. And I really doubt Prince and co wanted it to come to this, because they know exactly what Wilder means to the fanbase.

But. Every press conference if it hasn't been blowing smoke up the opposition's arse has been thinly veiled digs at the board.
He's been struggling like never before so he's been punching out, I get that, but destroying your relationship with those above you probably isn't a good idea.
Dragging our crap through the media has been very unsavoury to see, and it's only been from one party.

He's been backed, to the volume NO manager of this club ever has been, or likely ever will be again in the near future. To the sound of £130m.
The transfers haven't been a particular success so the board are rumoured to want a DoF in, that's a good model to follow and all the elite (and the majority of the Prem) have in place. It's thinking to the future. Chris didn't like it. But if he can't work with a DoF he'll never get a job at a top club.

Thanks for everything Chris, and I'm sad it's had to happen like this. But I really think it's for the best for all concerned.
We I suspect will now get a DoF in place and create a new club structure which we will need to become a sustainable PL club (fucking hell, even Burnley have one).
I expect him to take a little break and get a job at a Championship club angling for promotion late next season. And that will be really sad to see him in the opposition dugout.

The club isn't ending, managers come and go, although this one hurts at the minute. And it hurts we didn't get to say goodbye or thank him for the previous 4 years.
My personal views on the situation and this season aside, he is the best I've ever seen and I literally have CWAK tattooed on my arse.
He leaves us in a far better state than when he took over, now it's over to the board to put their plans into play. And none of this 'it will set us back 10 years' bollocks, we are about to go down with parachute payments and the basics of a great championship squad. Few additions here and there, create a new structure at the club with a DoF and a European scouting network - and with a good manager at the helm we'll be up there. Don't you worry about that.

But again, thanks for everything Chris. Brought our club back from the dead and we will never forget it. Legend.

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Wow, you've started another thread, a day of shocks.

What the fuck does spending more than any other manager in our history have to do with it??? It's totally meaningless, says more about us as a tin pot club for many a year (and unless you haven't grasped this yet, still are by the standards we are competing in) than it does about Chris and his ability to spend money.

I detest most of your posts,this is peak 'buddy shit though.

Times like this I fucking hate having a shared passion

 

[Bashamed]

We will, but I don't think that changes your accusation.
He will always want to protect his investment, whether he's competent and makes the right decisions to do that is another matter.

Not as simple as that. Not saying this is the case but as an example he could do something short term to try and get more money when he sells that he knows long term could hurt us. I trust wilder to have out best interests at heart rather than the Prince.

 

[Woodwaaard]

I trust wilder to have out best interests at heart rather than the Prince.

Maybe, they both do and you'll be surprised later on

 

[William]

The Board have done a right clanger. Although on this board 15% wanted him gone- nearer the truth is 99.9% of true Blades wanted him to stay-

Any suggestion of 'Wilder Out' with 30,000 there , highly likely they would have been battered.

The decision stinks- folk who have been round the block know that this is a truly awful conclusion.

The 4 years he has given are the best we have had for 50 years- it is truly beyond belief.

I'm a true Blade and I have never been fully in the Wilder Out camp. I've never said "I want Wilder to go" and just up until 2 months ago I would have had a gut wrenching feeling in the pit of my stomach if I thought he was leaving.

However, the last few weeks of watching his media conferences has left me feeling a bit uneasy. You can't take the high horse when you're airing your dirty washing in public. It reminded me of how I used to behave when I handed in my notice at a company. Literally couldn't give a shit by that point because I thought I was better than them.

That's why I have to agree with the OP that the board would have no choice for the good of the club. Would we really just bounce back with the attitude he'd started to adopt about the club?I think he's been looking for an out for a while and I can't really blame the owners in the midst of a pandemic for not meeting his seemingly ever widening demands.

No doubt they've got a big job on their hands to replace him and as always with this club, I wouldn't want to bet on it going well, but I can't really say they had a choice other than to get rid of him. And if he's walked, fair play to him, but he's walked off the back of quite unreasonable demands in these current times and with the backing he's had.

 

[Chabuddy G]

Wow, you've started another thread, a day of shocks.

What the fuck does spending more than any other manager in our history have to do with it??? It's totally meaningless, says more about us as a tin pot club for many a year (and unless you haven't grasped this yet, still are by the standards we are competing in) than it does about Chris and his ability to spend money.

I detest most of your posts,this is peak 'buddy shit though.

Times like this I fucking hate having a shared passion

70 people so far clearly agree. You don’t. So just read it, and if you don’t agree jog on. End of story.

I’d love to say this is peak ‘cc1 shit - but I had no idea you exist until this point.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Not as simple as that. Not saying this is the case but as an example he could do something short term to try and get more money when he sells that he knows long term could hurt us. I trust wilder to have out best interests at heart rather than the Prince.

I get the final point obviously but a successful club is the way for the Prince to look after his interests as well. Let’s level that at him if he turns into Chansiri or sells to someone iffy.

If he hasn’t gone, hopefully they can sort it out, but it’s United. And United always let us down when things start to look good.

 

[Bashamed]

Maybe, they both do and you'll be surprised later on

Maybe. Even if he does he's absolutely fucked up our chances of being successful now anyway. So we'll be shit but he has our best interests at heart. Not much consolation for me that.

 

[Kev Gee]

It's a sad day, but HRH wants to overhaul our recruitment structure. If CW doesn't want to accept this then there isn't much point in him continuing.

His stubborn streak is a blessing but also a problem. He will never get a top job unless he shows more flexibility.

Thank you Chris!

 

[Bashamed]

I get the final point obviously but a successful club is the way for the Prince to look after his interests as well. Let’s level that at him if he turns into Chansiri or sells to someone iffy.

If he hasn’t gone, hopefully they can sort it out, but it’s United. And United always let us down when things start to look good.

Doesn't really matter if he has our best interests at heart now he's shown he'll make completely stupid football decisions that will hurt us massively

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I had a suspicion he might be booted at the end of this season, as he’s made a dog’s breakfast of it for over a calendar year. Pity in a way because I was curious to see if he could come back fighting next season.

 

[Uncle mick]

Great post. Wilder has spit his dummy out and walked, huge Blade.

Im the biggest blade be out with mcabe tonight to decide who is

 

[Sean Thornton]

Doesn't really matter if he has our best interests at heart now he's shown he'll make completely stupid football decisions that will hurt us massively

Probably yes, but you brought it up as a comparison which doesn’t really make sense. IF it’s all true, a decision we don’t like doesn’t mean he might not care. He may be looking after his own interests as he sees it.

To be honest, l’m more concerned at the moment about losing Wilder than why based on tittle tattle.

 

[true99blade]

The board had the choice. They chose to jeopardise everything Wilder built since he came in in 2016. When we were in League One. Ah well, at least some got their wish.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Great post. Wilder has spit his dummy out and walked, huge Blade.

 

[Keen Blade]

The real problem is the Prince doesn't have enough money to finance a premier league club. We've had to gamble buying players who we hoped would make the step up and it didn't work. The Prince and the board need to take a long hard look at themselves and either get more investment in or sell up.

We'll see next season that the Prince doesn't have the money to finance a Championship club. He ought to have sold us when we were riding high but now he's stuck with a club worth the £5m he paid (minus what it owes for the ground)

 

[alcoblade]

Although one of the problems must be that the players who "aren't good enough to compete" have been brought in by CW, particularly those players in the last two seasons.

That is true. Wilder isn’t blameless. But he had to bring someone in - and we we’ve gone for potential over “quality today” because of initial costs and wage structures.

Potential, by definition, means the quality isn’t there today.

 

[BlairBlade]

That is true. Wilder isn’t blameless. But he had to bring someone in - and we we’ve gone for potential over “quality today” because of initial costs and wage structures.

Potential, by definition, means the quality isn’t there today.

Which unfortunately also means that we will not be in the Premier League for much longer.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

There is also the possibility that they hire a new manager who is actually good at their job, and everything works out.
There are good managers out there, and Chris isn't the only one.

What they have done is add an element of risk because, (at least in my opinion) we had a very good manager in place, but it's not that good football manager aren't freely available. They are out there, you just need to be able to identify them and bring them in.
My concern would be looking at who they've appointed at the new French club, I'm hoping someone like Bettis has more of a hand in it.

 

[alcoblade]

Which unfortunately also means that we will not be in the Premier League for much longer.

It does - but my conclusion from that is the fault lies with not being able to compete, not it being primarily Wilder's fault, to which I think you're alluding.

 

[Kenilworth]

OP
Fucking Knob
Wilder generated that money from what went on, on the pitch. League 1 losing 4 million per year - half of that paid by McCabe, at least - to Prem money and parachute.
Prince even had to mortgage what he owed McCabe for the club assets against future football club income.
Best for all concerned? DoF the way to go? You're speaking out of your ring.
If you want to be a plastic, non-entity me-too, insipid shadow of a club like that we'd have had to be in the prem for another 6 years at least to regenerate the facilities and infrastructure in order to compete. As it is, this clusterfuck of a situation will set us back fucking years.
Wilder gave us our club back and an identity to go with it.