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If this is Wilder's position then I think it's fair enough. One or two can go but don't sell all the crown jewels.

 
Chabuddy G said:
Seriously, it's not just conjecture, we'd have needed top 4 form to stay up at that point. Much rather not waste that on 2 loan players.
If we were signing players for next season, I'd have understood that. And admittedly a bit disappointed we didn't snap up say, Alex Mowatt, for a decent price
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No but even bring in loans it gives the lads a boost West brom have brought in quality and there bedding in players for next year
 
Wilder looks like a Dead Man Walking. Still not sure what it all means after reading all of above twice. I think he has to change his tactics but I would like him to stay choose what.
 
I think he’s going to go now..

Ah well managers have gone before and the club is still here... the next appointment is crucial. I am more confident in that being got right as it won’t be McCabe making another vanity appointment.
 
Carlton Blade said:
He's put together an extremely unbalanced squad using the most investment the club has ever seen (by a huge margin). And his response is this? Not quite the same as the Championship stuff really
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Sorry Carlton but the fact it's the biggest investment the club has ever seen should say it all, it says more about us in previous years and if you combine transfer fees and wages we are paupers in a billionaires playground. Not going to argue the case on each player he's brought in, but comparing this investment against previous is of no real relevance and shouldn't be used against Chris.
 
What Wilder is after is another contract. Only this time he wont be getting one & rightly so.
 
Superblades said:
That’s because he was given peanuts in the championship. He’s spent shitloads in the prem and made us worse.
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Money which he helped the club generate. How much do you think the club has made over the last 2 seasons and subsequent parachute payments? I don’t think the Prince will be out of pocket do you?
 
bladesmanluke said:
Straight through to league one by the way if we don't "stick to the plan".

I imagine it will make some of the muppets on here very happy
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How do you work that one out?
Calling a collection of people muppets after suggesting that we'll go down to League One by not sticking to a plan you know fuck all about is hilarious, may I add 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
I don't know what he's going for in this interview style! Is there vodka in that bottle?!

 
robbiez666 said:
I don't know what he's going for in this interview style! Is there vodka in that bottle?!

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So what’s wrong with the interview? What’s in that upsets or offends you? This seems to be a recurring theme from the same posters with regards his interviews.
His interviews are no different to when we were in league one and we all loved it. He’s honest, he’s not happy we are in the position we are in he answers all the questions honestly and alludes to the fact that it is a learning curve for him and the club.
What is it people who want him out are seeing or hearing? We have numerous posters claim he doesn’t take responsibility when he has in numerous interviews. People seem to be trying to look for something that isn’t there. By all means have a go at the tactics team selection etc but don’t personally attack and try and pick faults with a manger who has given us the best times we have ever seen.
 
Dkc said:
Yep, realised after I posted that that we won't get a fee for Lunny. If he can't find a Prem club he might still accept the terms we are offering. Personally I think he would be a decent asset in the Championship
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Nothing particularly against Lunny but I hope that doesn't happen. If that happens, it would probably lead to us persisting with the flat midfield three. I'd rather we used the wages offered to Lunny to go and get the Duffy replacement. Essentially, Lunny replaced Duffy from the promotion team and, for a season, it worked well. But I don't want to see it long term and I certainly don't want to see it in the Championship. We need a Duffy that we can then bring back up with us - hopefully.
 
Chabuddy G said:
How do you work that one out?
Calling a collection of people muppets after suggesting that we'll go down to League One by not sticking to a plan you know fuck all about is hilarious, may I add 🤣 🤣 🤣
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I did say it would make people happy. I didn't think it would happen that quickly
 
robbiez666 said:
If we went down, kept everyone (likely not feasible with Berge anyway) and bought a couple and came back up, where is the long-term plan there? We'd still have exactly the same issues as now but Billy, Didzy and Bash would be retired/gone and other players would be around 30 (Egan, Enda, George, Fleck, Norwood). We'd still be paying £20 million for championship players with potential or young PL players. We'd likely be back down rapidly and I think people forget just how difficult it is to get out of the Championship and how many sides of ours have fallen in the play-offs despite having a 'better teams'.

If he's not willing to change where we recruit players from then there's no long-term plan, imo. Something has to give.
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This is the main crux of the issue.
Keeping hold of the same players and signing rubbish back up behind them is what has done us in while wasting what money we've got on project players who might come good rather than on players who ARE good or are at least more competent than some of the ones stinking out our squad. The blokes you mention leave, we pick some players out of the Championship/League One, go up as plucky underdogs - "we spent tuppence ha'penny for our squad", do ok for a bit and inevitably go down.

We've got to go outside of the Championship and League One to unearth any gems because most of the players over here are known quantities and are known quantities to clubs with more money to offer than we have.
 

Is there any truth in the rumour that Wilder lost his mum last week?
If true it would have a bearing on how Wilder is feeling at the moment.
 
bladesmanluke said:
Keeping hold of our players and keeping Wilder. I would've thought that was pretty obvious
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So you think if we sell some players and lose Wilder we'll just drift back to League One?
I don't think that's how it works boss

We need to sell some players to freshen up the side, also.
 
Chabuddy G said:
Wit and Phipps need to shut the fuck up
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Correct, both like to tell us how much they have their finger on the pulse with what is going on at the club. I don't think neither of them actually know anything anymore. From Wits posts a year or two ago he seemed to know things now he just talks in riddles, gibberish.. I know he's CW best mate but I honestly think CW stopped telling him about anything to do with his job or Utd a year or so ago.
 
Chabuddy G said:
So you think if we sell some players and lose Wilder we'll just drift back to League One?
I don't think that's how it works boss

We need to sell some players to freshen up the side, also.
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I should imagine that Chris agrees with selling one or 2 being unavoidable. If he comes out and says that though maybe it opens the door to a fire sale in his eyes with the board thinking he's endorsed it. Saying he wants to keep them all maybe puts a restriction on it down to 1 or 2 as a compromise. Almost like a negotiation between him and the board.

I base my thoughts on us falling straight through to league one based on the clubs wretched past performance after ditching a good manager. The specialised players at this club were signed to play for him in his specialised system. If we then sell the decent ones what are we left with? A boss that's almost certainly not as gifted, a squad bereft of quality and an urgent need to completely rebuild the squad around a brand new system. That's all we have to go on, but it's a lot more than the blind hope you have that we might somehow get it right. He's carried us far past where we ought to be as a football club and we'll very quickly find the level again if he and the better players go.
 
bladesmanluke said:
I should imagine that Chris agrees with selling one or 2 being unavoidable. If he comes out and says that though maybe it opens the door to a fire sale in his eyes with the board thinking he's endorsed it. Saying he wants to keep them all maybe puts a restriction on it down to 1 or 2 as a compromise. Almost like a negotiation between him and the board.

I base my thoughts on us falling straight through to league one based on the clubs wretched past performance after ditching a good manager. The specialised players at this club were signed to play for him in his specialised system. If we then sell the decent ones what are we left with? A boss that's almost certainly not as gifted, a squad bereft of quality and an urgent need to completely rebuild the squad around a brand new system. That's all we have to go on, but it's a lot more than the blind hope you have that we might somehow get it right. He's carried us far past where we ought to be as a football club and we'll very quickly find the level again if he and the better players go.
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Is he really that good? Pre 2020, I'll give you. But since January last year we've had a very different man.
This season has been very very Paul Lambert. And there's nothing to suggest that'll change any time soon.
Also, for info, Knill is the tactics man. Not Chris.

And you seem to be of the opinion that only one man, Chris Wilder, can do anything with this club. Strange viewpoint. We might as well just rebrand the club and put a picture of Chris' mug in place of the Yorkshire rose.
 

Chris Wilder will QUIT Sheffield United if differences between himself and owner Prince Abdullah over the club's direction cannot be resolved​

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  • The Blades boss wants to keep the core of his squad back in the Championship
  • However, he is ready to walk away over differences with the club's owner
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Chabuddy G said:
Is he really that good? Pre 2020, I'll give you. But since January last year we've had a very different man.
This season has been very very Paul Lambert. And there's nothing to suggest that'll change any time soon.
Also, for info, Knill is the tactics man. Not Chris.

And you seem to be of the opinion that only one man, Chris Wilder, can do anything with this club. Strange viewpoint. We might as well just rebrand the club and put a picture of Chris' mug in place of the Yorkshire rose.
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Yes he's really that good. The best I've seen in my lifetime at least regardless of having a shocker this season.

I hope we stick with him. If we don't ill throw the toys out of the pram and probably call you some more names (don't take it personally), but at the end of the day I'll still be there supporting united even if it's in league one
 
Chabuddy G said:
Is he really that good? Pre 2020, I'll give you. But since January last year we've had a very different man.
This season has been very very Paul Lambert. And there's nothing to suggest that'll change any time soon.
Also, for info, Knill is the tactics man. Not Chris.

And you seem to be of the opinion that only one man, Chris Wilder, can do anything with this club. Strange viewpoint. We might as well just rebrand the club and put a picture of Chris' mug in place of the Yorkshire rose.
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Oh come on chab are we now questioning the manager and how good he has been throughout his career because of one bad season against the backdrop of issues in the background. Are you saying he’s not that good to try and strengthen your argument? Would it not be better to wait until next year to have this judgement? We have had one year out of 5 where it hasn’t been good surely that would suggest it is this year that is the one off?
 
bladesmanluke said:
Yes he's really that good. The best I've seen in my lifetime at least regardless of having a shocker this season.

I hope we stick with him. If we don't ill throw the toys out of the pram and probably call you some more names (don't take it personally), but at the end of the day I'll still be there supporting united even if it's in league one
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Yeah but it's 2021, where everybody is required to have a 6 second memory.
 
bladesmanluke said:
Yes he's really that good. The best I've seen in my lifetime at least regardless of having a shocker this season.

I hope we stick with him. If we don't ill throw the toys out of the pram and probably call you some more names (don't take it personally), but at the end of the day I'll still be there supporting united even if it's in league one
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As will I, but I don't think Chris Wilder is the be all and end all of Sheffield United's success.
I thank him for what he's done, but now we have some money in the coffers and a board who seem to have an actual idea what to do with us (hopefully with designs on bringing in a DoF, some european scouting networks, the new training ground) the club is built for success long term.

I don't want this mardy, negative (on and off the field) Chris Wilder stinking the place out next season.
He either comes back to pre-2020 CW or takes his toys and leaves for me. Because we will NOT go up with this negative mood around the place.
 
Robboblade1889 said:
Oh come on chab are we now questioning the manager and how good he has been throughout his career because of one bad season against the backdrop of issues in the background. Are you saying he’s not that good to try and strengthen your argument? Would it not be better to wait until next year to have this judgement? We have had one year out of 5 where it hasn’t been good surely that would suggest it is this year that is the one off?
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As above, I thank him for his services to the club and what he's given to us, memories for a lifetime, but if it's the post 2020 CW I don't much care for it.
Everything about him now is negative. And if that's the case next season it won't end up in promotion.

He is the forefront of the club, the mouthpiece, Mr Sheffield United, it's up to him to bring positivity to proceedings. But every press conference he looks like a moody teenager and he can't wait to deflect all the wrongdoings to anyone other than himself.
 

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