Singing Section at the lane

[Foxy]

Foxy - I go the away matches and watch the fans who are there to see who is doing what.

As do I, but I wouldn't dream of categorising you based upon that. Out of interest, which do I fit into in your opinion? you'll have seen me.

I've seen Blades in recent years sat taking the piss out of and having a go at one of the most travelled Blades of the last few generations, who has spend plenty of time helping other Blades, encouraging support etc, because he wasn't stood and joining in with them at that time. How does that work? thats exactly the sort of situation categorising people based upon ill-informed opinions creates.

 

[GC88]

Foxy - I probably will have seen you but I couldn't put username to face so I can't really comply with your request.

I'm not aware of the incident you have mentioned above so can't comment on it.

Also it's clear now following the comment by Linz, the comment by bramley and your subsequent comment what/who your problem/s is/are with it and the person/s your 'encounter' was with.

 

[Santos]

Foxy - I go the away matches and watch the fans who are there to see who is doing what.

Workingtonblade - I am not claiming that one group is a better overall type of fan but what I am saying that if people support the team vocally irrespective of score and or performance they are better supporters and contribute more to the atomsphere. My interpretation of the idea of the section is for people who want to sing to be alongside like minded people.

Classic. :thumbup: Watch out for me at Hillsboro, I'll be the one in the red and white shirt having a nice sit down.

 

[Foxy]

Foxy - I probably will have seen you but I couldn't put username to face so I can't really comply with your request.

But you've categorised me have you not, or is the continuous/not list not complete yet?

I'm not aware of the incident you have mentioned above so can't comment on it.

I wasn't bringing it up for you to comment on, I was giving you an example as to what happens when you decide to put people you know nothing about into categories.

Also it's clear now following the comment by Linz, the comment by bramley and your subsequent comment what/who your problem/s is/are with it and the person/s your 'encounter' was with.

I'm not sure how, because I'm not talking about one "encounter" and it isn't clear to me.

 

[GC88]

Foxy - I don't know you so how would I know if I have categorised you?

 

[Foxy]

Foxy - I don't know you so how would I know if I have categorised you?

How many people in your sections of "reactionary" supporters and "continous" supporters do you know?

I'd hazard a guess its not many, yet you've decided what they are?

 

[GC88]

It's a decent % of the people who are regularly there away.

I know who to go and stand near at an away match to try and create an atmosphere and where not to go.

 

[Foxy]

It's a decent % of the people who are regularly there away.

So, you've observed them over their Blades supporting life to categorise them against yourself and who you like to stand near?

Do you look towards the pitch at all? or do you scan the stands to see if the "reactionaries" are making any noise to hastily recategorise them?

There's only one category for me personally, and that is "Blade".

 

[smithy1987]

foxy and linz please stop slagging this section off, it sounds to me like you are paranoid about not been allowed to join in, thats why you are against it. People are wanting to come together to create a positive atmosphere in a usual negative ground and you are classing it as segregation when it isnt.

Get behind the idea because next season it will be in force in a big way, let me tell you at the minute you have a large amount of blades putting there own money into flags, scarves etc to give the area a bit of colour and i cant remember when i last saw so many people excited about visiting the lane.

its bringing an atmosphere and colour to the lane, it baffles me and to be honest stresses me out why someone would want to destroy this. how can we be alienating fans when we want every man, woman and child involved??

 

[Foxy]

foxy and linz please stop slagging this section off, it sounds to me like you are paranoid about not been allowed to join in, thats why you are against it. People are wanting to come together to create a positive atmosphere in a usual negative ground and you are classing it as segregation when it isnt.

I'm not slagging the section off, re-read my posts.

"Being allowed to join in"? what are you on about? Nobody tells me what I can and can't do following the Blades and if they tried to, I wouldn't listen.

I'm not going to join in the section, as I'm staying in my cracking view on the John Street (where I've been since it was re-built). I've not been on the Kop for years, I shifted my season ticket (ironically enough on near enough the back row between gangway A & B) to H Block (before shifting to John Street) a long time ago due to the poor view and poorly designed rake of the stand.

I will however be backing the Blades home and away like I always have.

Get behind the idea because next season it will be in force in a big way, let me tell you at the minute you have a large amount of blades putting there own money into flags, scarves etc to give the area a bit of colour and i cant remember when i last saw so many people excited about visiting the lane.

Good, I hope it is successful and helps the atmosphere, like I said further up this post. I've already got flags and scarves, believe it or not, they weren't invented yesterday.

its bringing an atmosphere and colour to the lane, it baffles me and to be honest stresses me out why someone would want to destroy this. how can we be alienating fans when we want every man, woman and child involved??

Do you not see the irony in the fact you are stating in your last sentence the main point I'm trying to re-iterate here with certain individuals insistance on elitism?

 

[GC88]

Where has anyone insisted on elitism?

I think you've missed the point of the whole idea and have thought too much about and tried to make it out to be something that it isn't.

 

[smithy1987]

you cant win with some people!!


keep thinking that the world is against you and because i am a 22 year old blade i hate you if it makes you feel any better. never knew that wanting to create a positive atmosphere at the lane was a bad thing.

iv sat on back of gangway d all season and pulled my bollox off trying to get songs going and only 30ish people join in, there has been a similiar set of fans on gangway a,b,c, f etc, so what is wrong with that set of people on each gangway saying 'hey lets all sit together, the atmosphere generated will be much more succesfull if we all sit together'


*walks off and bangs head against a wall

 

[Foxy]

you cant win with some people!!

keep thinking that the world is against you and because i am a 22 year old blade i hate you if it makes you feel any better. never knew that wanting to create a positive atmosphere at the lane was a bad thing.

iv sat on back of gangway d all season and pulled my bollox off trying to get songs going and only 30ish people join in, there has been a similiar set of fans on gangway a,b,c, f etc, so what is wrong with that set of people on each gangway saying 'hey lets all sit together, the atmosphere generated will be much more succesfull if we all sit together'

*walks off and bangs head against a wall

Try actually reading what I type, it might help you understand the point I was trying to make rather than whatever you've plucked out of the air to decide that I'm thinking the world is against me

 

[happyhippy]

Foxy - I go the away matches and watch the fans who are there to see who is doing what.

Workingtonblade - I am not claiming that one group is a better overall type of fan but what I am saying that if people support the team vocally irrespective of score and or performance they are better supporters and contribute more to the atomsphere. My interpretation of the idea of the section is for people who want to sing to be alongside like minded people.

So you are saying that those who want to sing all the time are better supporters? These are your words. That's a disgraceful thing to say.

I have no real problem with a 'singing section', but I do see it as being yet another part of homogenising this sport, and more to the point watching it. I, and many other members of this forum have often started chants when the noise levels have dropped. At the moment though, there is precisely fuck all for us to shout about. If you want to start chants and get the atmosphere going, just try and do it! You don't need to have a little pocket of people.

And don't fucking sing Wednesday tunes with no lyrics either, because the rest of us aren't going to copy you, copying them. I really do hope you lift the atmosphere because it needs it, but if we're losing 5-0 at home to Scunthorpe, no matter how hard you try, I wain't be yelling happy songs.

 

[GC88]

Why is it a disgraceful thing to say?

Don't make statements such as that without anything backing it up to disprove what I have stated.

 

[happyhippy]

It's a decent % of the people who are regularly there away.

I know who to go and stand near at an away match to try and create an atmosphere and where not to go.

So you choose your seat irrespective of the fact that you have a ticket for a specific seat? Does this not also apply at home?

One of the reasons why I started to go to the top of Gangway F was because that was where a lot of the noise came from. Granted, after I had to give up the glory of a (John Street East) terrace in 1994, there was perhaps more room at the back of the Kop compared to now.

To be honest fella, you're just sounding like a spoilt kid. I can't fault your enthusiasm, but I can also tell you that from where my season ticket seat is, it's really not pleasant having a load of verbal effluent constantly shouted at us because we won't join in with Wednesday songs.

I wish you all the best and hope that you do make others make noise, but sort your attitudes out.

 

[happyhippy]

Why is it a disgraceful thing to say?

Don't make statements such as that without anything backing it up to disprove what I have stated.

No, you said that people who sing are better supporters. That is farcical and disgraceful. You made the assertion; you back it up.

 

[GC88]

I need to back up that someone who vocally supports the team is a better supproter than someone who doesn't?

Laughable.

 

[happyhippy]

I need to back up that someone who vocally supports the team is a better supproter than someone who doesn't?

Laughable.

How is it laughable? Is my neighbour who is rather incapacitated but still makes every home match, despite being in his 70's, but literally can't vocally support the team in the way he would have done a worse supporter than you?

Does shouting, screaming and bawling the odds with the venom of a Black Widow make you a 'better' supporter?

 

[GC88]

The first paragraph is an exception.

The second is totally incorrect.

 

[happyhippy]

you cant win with some people!!


keep thinking that the world is against you and because i am a 22 year old blade i hate you if it makes you feel any better. never knew that wanting to create a positive atmosphere at the lane was a bad thing.

iv sat on back of gangway d all season and pulled my bollox off trying to get songs going and only 30ish people join in, there has been a similiar set of fans on gangway a,b,c, f etc, so what is wrong with that set of people on each gangway saying 'hey lets all sit together, the atmosphere generated will be much more succesfull if we all sit together'


*walks off and bangs head against a wall

That's the point though. Nobody is saying that that's a bad thing. It's more as to whether it's necessary, and how practical it is. If the truth be told, short of when we've been on top in big or important matches, most never sung anyway. And that's the same the world over.

 

[happyhippy]

The first paragraph is an exception.

The second is totally incorrect.

How is the first an exception? I'm being damned polite here. If Derek Goodison (my neighbour) could speak to you now, you wouldn't know what fucking hit you.

The second is absolutely bang on correct if you've been anywhere near my season ticket seat for the last three years or so.

 

[shorehamview]

let me tell you at the minute you have a large amount of blades putting there own money into flags, scarves etc to give the area a bit of colour and i cant remember when i last saw so many people excited about visiting the lane.

Are the many people getting excited friends of the people getting pissed off with visiting the Lane? Because I'll guarantee you that there are more people excited about visiting the dentist at the moment.

I've already got flags and scarves, believe it or not, they weren't invented yesterday.

I've got scarves too! I've had them for years. I must be an Ultra! And I've got a flag too. Am I going to cart them to the lane for the last match, sweating in the sun under all that wool and polyester? No.


I must also be a "worse supporter" than these "better supporters" because I'm not singing all the time. I choose not to sing all the time. When I do I end up nearly coughing my lungs up. Does that make me a "worse supporter", because some people think a noisy one is a "better supporter". If that's what you think of your fellow Blades who choose not to sing all the time then that's up to you, but if you want to get in my face at the Lane or away and order me to sing then I'll kindly instruct you to fuck off sharpish.

 

[Linz]

Hahahaha.... like many on this forum, I've been going home and away for years. Before it became fashionable.

I've seen some amazing scenes as a Blade. And some pretty dire ones too. And in the terms of a Blade-supporting life, I'm just a mere youth. I've conga-ed in the rain at Stockport, I've nearly had my bloody chips wiped out by a stray Dellas ball at Grimsby, I went fucking flying at Highbury when Andy Gray scored that penalty. I sobbed my little heart out because of Alan fucking Shearer at Old Trafford. Those are the things that make you a Blade... not dancing around and gobbing off.

No johnny come lately is going to tell me what kind of supporter I am. I am a Blade and as far as I'm concerned, everyone round me is a Blade.

And I have a damned sight more respect than to slag off Blades of senior years... Blades who were Blades in the bad old days. Ones who had fireworks thrown at them. Ones who had to jump in the Trent to escape a kicking. Ones who had their trainers nicked on trips to Liverpool. Just because you like singing, what gives you the right to say you're a better supporter than these people? Can you not understand that this is precisely the reason you are turning people off?

Absolutely no one is against the idea of bettering the atmosphere. They are against the idea of a little clique of schoolboys who think they're better than everyone else and aren't backwards at coming forwards and saying so.

So go on Bladesmad... say that we're a forum of people who don't support the club. It just shows irrefutable evidence of your ignorance and arrogance.

But a lot of these people were here a long time before you lot. And maybe a lot will be there a long time afterwards too.

 

[shorehamview]

And I have a damned sight more respect than to slag off Blades of senior years... Blades who were Blades in the bad old days. Ones who had fireworks thrown at them. Ones who had to jump in the Trent to escape a kicking. Ones who had their trainers nicked on trips to Liverpool. Just because you like singing, what gives you the right to say you're a better supporter than these people? Can you not understand that this is precisely the reason you are turning people off?

You're not a True Blade unless you've been to Bellend Road and had more coins thrown at you than you managed to spend all day.

Absolutely no one is against the idea of bettering the atmosphere. They are against the idea of a little clique of schoolboys who think they're better than everyone else and aren't backwards at coming forwards and saying so.

So go on Bladesmad... say that we're a forum of people who don't support the club. It just shows irrefutable evidence of your ignorance and arrogance.

But a lot of these people were here a long time before you lot. And maybe a lot will be there a long time afterwards too.

If Bladesmad think they are the One True Voice of our supporters then they are sadly deluded, but we'll let them carry on with that misguided belief as they sit there with their little widgers getting hard every time they say "I'm an Ultra, me. I'm a bigger Blade than all you others. Look at my scarf, and my flag."

To even suggest that you are capable of deciding who is a bigger Blade or better supporter based solely on your own opinion of someone's scarf size or volume shows that you are the kind of person for who life is one great big game of Top Trumps. I don't give a shit if you are louder or quieter than me. I don't care if you have more Blades stuff hanging on your wall, or if your teddy collection is named after the curent squad. I don't care if you hate me because I don't sing all the time. I lose no sleep when you sit there hammering at your keyboard, torn apart by your all-consuming bitterness that others choose a different path of support than you. I care not that your diet consists entirely of greasy chip butties, and that you are the last person in Sheffield on Woodbines, Magnet and snuff. I don't give a chuff if you tattoo your entire body in red and white stripes. And I don't care if you have a bigger house than me, or think your dad is harder than mine. Because he isn't. Trust me on this.

I do find some humour in knowing that you get stressed to fuck that I find some things in life more important than football. I find it hilarious that you are upset that not everybody wants to be exactly like you. And I find it ridiculous that the saying "We're all Blades, aren't we" has absolutely no meaning for you whatsoever. The club is United. Can we be too?

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

What was the weird chant the fans on the kop were murmering?
It sounded like they were amazonians praying for rain. Scratch head???

 

[Foxy]

What was the weird chant the fans on the kop were murmering?
It sounded like they were amazonians praying for rain. Scratch head???

I assume you mean Dale Cavese.

 

[Linz]

What was the weird chant the fans on the kop were murmering?
It sounded like they were amazonians praying for rain. Scratch head???

I think it was "pick up your pie, pick up your pieeeee, some pisshead's dropped it, pick up your pie"

 

[shorehamview]

What was the weird chant the fans on the kop were murmering?
It sounded like they were amazonians praying for rain. Scratch head???

Why would Amazonians pray for rain? It's a bloody rainforest. Surely they would pray for brollies and rain coats?

I assume you mean Dale Cavese.

Who the fuck is Dale Cavese?












I know, before you go on about it....

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

I think it was "pick up your pie, pick up your pieeeee, some pisshead's dropped it, pick up your pie"

Your not going to let me forget that are you.