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Not looking too good in the short term, though we've cleared some deadwood from midfield (eg McEachran) and will probably lose one or two more (eg Sawyers).
Yeah, but to gazump someone, you've got to lodge a bid at some stage.
Crewe were basically a case of a 4th tier club relying on Dario Gradi to allow them to punch way above their true weight. And once he left, they quickly went back whence they came.You basically said you were a 'developing players then moving them on to better things' club, exactly as Crewe have been for the 20/30 years. Crewe have dabbled with the higher division and then sunk back quickly but as yet, you haven't stepped up to the Prem. You may well do in the next couple of years, but as it stands, you are the Chumpionships Crewe
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Crewe were always a 4th tier club but dabbled with the odd season in the 3rd. You've spent the last 5 seasons in the 2nd tier but prior to that spent most of your time below that so arguably, you are punching above your weight now.Crewe were basically a case of a 4th tier club relying on Dario Gradi to allow them to punch way above their true weight. And once he left, they quickly went back whence they came.
Whereas Bees are just about an established 2nd tier club (or at least will be by the time we've settled into our new stadium).
Which means that for us, "punching above our weight" would actually mean the Prem.
Either way, there is no sign of our drifting back to our former status (3rd or 4th tier), like Crewe have.
As an Australian might say, "We'll be right" - though perhaps not an Australian cricketer! (47 for 3 after 15 overs
Six seasons in the second tier doesn't make you an established second tier club. Have a look at this: it will give you a clue.Crewe were basically a case of a 4th tier club relying on Dario Gradi to allow them to punch way above their true weight. And once he left, they quickly went back whence they came.
Whereas Bees are just about an established 2nd tier club (or at least will be by the time we've settled into our new stadium).
Which means that for us, "punching above our weight" would actually mean the Prem.
Either way, there is no sign of our drifting back to our former status (3rd or 4th tier), like Crewe have.
As an Australian might say, "We'll be right" - though perhaps not an Australian cricketer! (47 for 3 after 15 overs
"Always been"? Twenty two(?) seasons in the top flight in the 74 seasons since WWII, suggests more of an "inbetween club" than an established one.
The difference between Crewe and Bees is that Crewe needed every penny made on player sales just to keep them solvent and out of their natural level (4th Division, in old money). Worse, all of those player sales were dependant on one man's skills (Gradi)
Trust me, since Benham came in the club is completely unrecognisable from that which he took over, no comparison.
not a case of trust, you are currently punching above your historical weight, only time will tell whether you can kick on but as it stands, as of yesterday, you are still selling your best players and maybe (shhhh) another one shortly. Since the messiah joined you you have kicked on from what, 11th to 9th and back again ?
You don't need to remind Bees fans where we've come from.Six seasons in the second tier doesn't make you an established second tier club. Have a look at this: it will give you a clue.
Brentford FC - Historical league placements
Diese Übersicht zeigt, mit welcher Tabellen-Endplatzierung der Verein Brentford eine Spielzeit abgeschlossen hat und in welcher Liga er aktiv war.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
You're like deluded Pig fans thinking they're still a Premiership club.
), we're using it to build a mansion, mortgage-free in a smart part of town.
But you’re still no closer to the play-offs.
I like how this started as a Neil Maupay thread and has now evolved into a coffee club for those who sport the red and white stripes!
What time are the Exeter fans due to arrive?
Crewe were a 4th tier side which punched way above their weight for a while (Dario Gradi, basically), but have since reverted to the mean.
During the same period, Bees were a solid 3rd tier side: hope for promotion in a good year, struggle against relegation in a bad one, but basically going nowhere much. But as the 21st century dawned, developments in the game (money, stadia, support etc) meant that if anything, we were likely to drop into the 4th, and from there out of the league entirely - see Leyton Orient, for example.
Step forward Matthew Benham and we have been completely transformed from top to bottom, so that by the time we move to the new stadium next season, we can confidently consider ourselves to be an established 2nd tier club.
Which means we're really only an exceptional season or two away from the PL - shades of Sheff U, perhaps?
Anyhow, most Bees fans can see the progress which is being made, appreciate that it can't all be done all at once, and in the meantime are enjoying some of the best football any of us can remember.
Now where were we again? Crewe was it?
I think not.
We bought Konsa for £3m and sold him a season later for £12m (plus a sell-on?).
Like I keep saying, Crewe. Until you start challenging for promotion which you haven't in 4 years under the messiah then that's what you'll remain, or worse, because the signings won't always pay off.
Yes but let’s be right here, when Bruce took over they were only 12th in the table.
Can just see them snatching him away offering better wages etc
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